A story with unclear ending

[kubiackalpha]

Hi thanks for the replies. I haven't caved yet. I'm nicotin free for at least a full week or so, now. The symptoms have decreased already, as far as I can tell.
What makes it worse is actually thinking about the dip, so I decided I'll rather not look at this page on a daily basis but more, like, on a weekly basis or when it gets too bad.

I anyway haven't understood how that roll posting would help me - it's copy and pasting a message and adding my name to it? I have my doubts as to what difference that would make. Even that word, "roll" somehow reminds me of a shape of snus/dip can...

What does help me, however, is the horror stories about mouth cancer and having the face butchered. Of course, this is something I very much would like to avoid. I have gotten a bit nervous about some bumps in the floor of my mouth, but according to medical research this is usually benign and has not been an area directly in contact with the tobacco.
I also checked my gums, tongue and everything, and found no signs of any kind of cancer there.
Please do not suggest to see a doctor, but share your experience and opinion instead.

Thanks, Keulikator

Congrats on making it through your first week! Hope to see you posting roll. Re: your comment about roll, it keeps you accountable and is a symbol of your promise to yourself and us not to use any nic.

I know you said not to suggest it, but I'm going to anyways. Everyone should go see their dentist, especially those who use or have used tobacco. I'm going when I hit Day 45. If your biggest fear is invasive oral surgery, it might help you to know that prognosis of oral cancer is directly tied to how early/late a patient presents.

5-yr survival for local cancer is 83% (90% for stage 1), if it hits local lymph nodes your chances go down to 62%, and if it metastasizes to other organs down to 38% (URMC). The earlier you go and get the official OK, the better. Get frequent check-ups in case anything does pop up. The biggest mistake you can make is to not go at all.

Boooom... There's a bucket of Truth!
You can do this.
We are here to help.
I Quit with you today.
Post Roll.
Rawls 537

When i first found this site I didn't think that posting roll would help at all. Fuck was I wrong! It may sound silly right now, but you will develop a brotherhood with your fellow quitters on roll call. They will keep you accountable. The foundation of this community is built on posting roll every damn morning. I cannot tell you how many times my promise kept me from caving. If you are going to succeed, You need to come to the realization that you are not strong enough to go at this alone. I know you may feel like you have it whooped after a week or two of stopping, but your addiction will wait you out. I had the strongest cravings of my quit well after I hit the 100 day mark! Without the knowledge that there was a group of quit brothers out there, that I had given my promise to on roll, I would have caved over and over again. I have not made it this far because I have a lot of willpower. I made it this far because I have a group of brothers that I make a promise to every day.

One phrase that will explain what will happen. We all know you have attempted a quit before. And without a drastic change you get nothing. So. Here is the phrase.


Do what you always did. Get what you always got.

[Leave_notrace]

Hi thanks for the replies. I haven't caved yet. I'm nicotin free for at least a full week or so, now. The symptoms have decreased already, as far as I can tell.
What makes it worse is actually thinking about the dip, so I decided I'll rather not look at this page on a daily basis but more, like, on a weekly basis or when it gets too bad.

I anyway haven't understood how that roll posting would help me - it's copy and pasting a message and adding my name to it? I have my doubts as to what difference that would make. Even that word, "roll" somehow reminds me of a shape of snus/dip can...

What does help me, however, is the horror stories about mouth cancer and having the face butchered. Of course, this is something I very much would like to avoid. I have gotten a bit nervous about some bumps in the floor of my mouth, but according to medical research this is usually benign and has not been an area directly in contact with the tobacco.
I also checked my gums, tongue and everything, and found no signs of any kind of cancer there.
Please do not suggest to see a doctor, but share your experience and opinion instead.

Thanks, Keulikator

Congrats on making it through your first week! Hope to see you posting roll. Re: your comment about roll, it keeps you accountable and is a symbol of your promise to yourself and us not to use any nic.

I know you said not to suggest it, but I'm going to anyways. Everyone should go see their dentist, especially those who use or have used tobacco. I'm going when I hit Day 45. If your biggest fear is invasive oral surgery, it might help you to know that prognosis of oral cancer is directly tied to how early/late a patient presents.

5-yr survival for local cancer is 83% (90% for stage 1), if it hits local lymph nodes your chances go down to 62%, and if it metastasizes to other organs down to 38% (URMC). The earlier you go and get the official OK, the better. Get frequent check-ups in case anything does pop up. The biggest mistake you can make is to not go at all.

Boooom... There's a bucket of Truth!
You can do this.
We are here to help.
I Quit with you today.
Post Roll.
Rawls 537

When i first found this site I didn't think that posting roll would help at all. Fuck was I wrong! It may sound silly right now, but you will develop a brotherhood with your fellow quitters on roll call. They will keep you accountable. The foundation of this community is built on posting roll every damn morning. I cannot tell you how many times my promise kept me from caving. If you are going to succeed, You need to come to the realization that you are not strong enough to go at this alone. I know you may feel like you have it whooped after a week or two of stopping, but your addiction will wait you out. I had the strongest cravings of my quit well after I hit the 100 day mark! Without the knowledge that there was a group of quit brothers out there, that I had given my promise to on roll, I would have caved over and over again. I have not made it this far because I have a lot of willpower. I made it this far because I have a group of brothers that I make a promise to every day.

[pab1964]

Nah, no roll call means you don't want our help and opinions. What do we know - other than how to quit.

If you can't play by the one simple rule, then go elsewhere.

Wow....just.....wow! I'm speechless. I thought I heard it all! Listen to these guys and increase your odds of living!

[Thumblewort]

Nah, no roll call means you don't want our help and opinions. What do we know - other than how to quit.

If you can't play by the one simple rule, then go elsewhere.

[kubiackalpha]

I understand the cost thing. Obamacare has made it worse than previous because now we get fined money we don't have if we cant afford the insurance that doesn't cover or isnt accepted.

[keulikator]

I know you said not to suggest it

Unfortunately I don't have health insurance, so I simply can't afford any kind of examinations or treatments. If I get cancer, I will simply sacrifice my life for a good cause while I still have the strength. This is better than a slow and miserable chemo death.

[Rawls]

Hi thanks for the replies. I haven't caved yet. I'm nicotin free for at least a full week or so, now. The symptoms have decreased already, as far as I can tell.
What makes it worse is actually thinking about the dip, so I decided I'll rather not look at this page on a daily basis but more, like, on a weekly basis or when it gets too bad.

I anyway haven't understood how that roll posting would help me - it's copy and pasting a message and adding my name to it? I have my doubts as to what difference that would make. Even that word, "roll" somehow reminds me of a shape of snus/dip can...

What does help me, however, is the horror stories about mouth cancer and having the face butchered. Of course, this is something I very much would like to avoid. I have gotten a bit nervous about some bumps in the floor of my mouth, but according to medical research this is usually benign and has not been an area directly in contact with the tobacco.
I also checked my gums, tongue and everything, and found no signs of any kind of cancer there.
Please do not suggest to see a doctor, but share your experience and opinion instead.

Thanks, Keulikator

Congrats on making it through your first week! Hope to see you posting roll. Re: your comment about roll, it keeps you accountable and is a symbol of your promise to yourself and us not to use any nic.

I know you said not to suggest it, but I'm going to anyways. Everyone should go see their dentist, especially those who use or have used tobacco. I'm going when I hit Day 45. If your biggest fear is invasive oral surgery, it might help you to know that prognosis of oral cancer is directly tied to how early/late a patient presents.

5-yr survival for local cancer is 83% (90% for stage 1), if it hits local lymph nodes your chances go down to 62%, and if it metastasizes to other organs down to 38% (URMC). The earlier you go and get the official OK, the better. Get frequent check-ups in case anything does pop up. The biggest mistake you can make is to not go at all.

Boooom... There's a bucket of Truth!
You can do this.
We are here to help.
I Quit with you today.
Post Roll.
Rawls 537

[medquit]

Hi thanks for the replies. I haven't caved yet. I'm nicotin free for at least a full week or so, now. The symptoms have decreased already, as far as I can tell.
What makes it worse is actually thinking about the dip, so I decided I'll rather not look at this page on a daily basis but more, like, on a weekly basis or when it gets too bad.

I anyway haven't understood how that roll posting would help me - it's copy and pasting a message and adding my name to it? I have my doubts as to what difference that would make. Even that word, "roll" somehow reminds me of a shape of snus/dip can...

What does help me, however, is the horror stories about mouth cancer and having the face butchered. Of course, this is something I very much would like to avoid. I have gotten a bit nervous about some bumps in the floor of my mouth, but according to medical research this is usually benign and has not been an area directly in contact with the tobacco.
I also checked my gums, tongue and everything, and found no signs of any kind of cancer there.
Please do not suggest to see a doctor, but share your experience and opinion instead.

Thanks, Keulikator

Congrats on making it through your first week! Hope to see you posting roll. Re: your comment about roll, it keeps you accountable and is a symbol of your promise to yourself and us not to use any nic.

I know you said not to suggest it, but I'm going to anyways. Everyone should go see their dentist, especially those who use or have used tobacco. I'm going when I hit Day 45. If your biggest fear is invasive oral surgery, it might help you to know that prognosis of oral cancer is directly tied to how early/late a patient presents.

5-yr survival for local cancer is 83% (90% for stage 1), if it hits local lymph nodes your chances go down to 62%, and if it metastasizes to other organs down to 38% (URMC). The earlier you go and get the official OK, the better. Get frequent check-ups in case anything does pop up. The biggest mistake you can make is to not go at all.

[keulikator]

Hi thanks for the replies. I haven't caved yet. I'm nicotin free for at least a full week or so, now. The symptoms have decreased already, as far as I can tell.
What makes it worse is actually thinking about the dip, so I decided I'll rather not look at this page on a daily basis but more, like, on a weekly basis or when it gets too bad.

I anyway haven't understood how that roll posting would help me - it's copy and pasting a message and adding my name to it? I have my doubts as to what difference that would make. Even that word, "roll" somehow reminds me of a shape of snus/dip can...

What does help me, however, is the horror stories about mouth cancer and having the face butchered. Of course, this is something I very much would like to avoid. I have gotten a bit nervous about some bumps in the floor of my mouth, but according to medical research this is usually benign and has not been an area directly in contact with the tobacco.
I also checked my gums, tongue and everything, and found no signs of any kind of cancer there.
Please do not suggest to see a doctor, but share your experience and opinion instead.

Thanks, Keulikator

[Grievous Angel]

You need to post roll, then learn how to hate all forms of nicotine. Romanticizing it is a path to caving. You and I are addicts, plain and simple.

Seconded. I remember thinking early how much I used to "love" dip. No, that was the addict talking.

Post roll. Promise for today. Follow through. Do it again tomorrow. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Thumblewort]

You need to post roll, then learn how to hate all forms of nicotine. Romanticizing it is a path to caving. You and I are addicts, plain and simple.

[kubiackalpha]

WELCOME! Congrats on the best decision ever! I will even say that on my bad days. Odd how feeling bad on withdrawal days one can still honestly say it was a good decision. Maybe because of the freedom we have gained from the Nic Bit(h. I would place money on that, actually. So. Get yourself plenty of water and fruit juice. This will help your symptoms. You wont be free of them. But, it will help. Dive into the site and glean all the information available to you. Post roll daily. Get involved. Talk with others. Red some intros. Congrats and we quit daily here. Tomorrow is not promised so why should we promise tomorrow. Sometimes our quit is minute by minute even second by second.




Just for today, Self.

[wildirish317]

Not to overwhelm you, but here are some more links to check out:

New Quitter Hints and Helps

http://www.killthecan.org/heres-how-you ... court-now/

How to post roll video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBoCAii ... e=youtu.be

or how to post roll from written directions
topic/1003072/1/

[RNGLock]

First off, welcome. You have come to the right place if you are lookign for support. Based on your quit date you will be in August. Link below.

topic/11604982/47/#new

Get over there and post roll. Posting roll is your 24 hour promise not to use any form of Nic. You make that promise every day as soon as you wake up.

If you haven't already, read up on the link below. It will help you out with knowing what to do.

forum/55560/

As for the tingling, make an appointment with your doctor or dentist. Don't take any chances with your health.

This won't be an easy journey, but it is well worth it.

RNGLock Day 81

[keulikator]

Hi. In 2001 a friend from sweden offered me "röda lacket", which is a rather mild traditional swedish snus. I was instantly knocked off my legs, getting really sick, but boy was this a trip. I never tried it after that.
In 2003, I was back in Sweden and suddenly the idea struck me to buy more snus. Since then, I was hooked until 2005 when I went abroad, to east Asia, without access to snus. I then started smoking and smoked until 2008. Then, I quit, going gradually back to Snus, trying many different variants, and mail-ordering them, as I was living in a country with no direct Snus sales.
After a while the use got lower and lower, and since 2012 have been quite snus-free. In 2015 I relapsed after relocating to the US, where there is dip available everywhere.
OH WOW what a great experience. I was in Las Vegas for few months and dipped and drank my way through the casinos. I enjoyed it so so much, and nobody noticed, nobody could tell me to stop, I was on a big roll and cruised the roads in my Mustang, tires smokin'.

Then, I moved to the mid west and this is where I am now, getting back to sober life and trying to kick some bad habits. Finally I found this site and was shocked to see how bad this can really get. Do I want to have my face chopped up in a cancer surgery? I don't think so.
So, I want to get rid of it, now and forever.
A week or so into kicking it, I am glad to have found this site and try to get some support, because the craving is really really bad.

I often feel a certain kind of tingling in my upper lip (i dip only upper lip, a habit from taking snus), and it can get really bad to some slightly painful or itchy sensation. When I stop focusing on it, it gets better. When I drink coffee or alcohol I really crave for nicotine a lot. When I do sports or drink plenty of water, less so.
I wonder what to do about that tingling sensation other than ignoring it. Is there any trick you guys know?

Edit: I have had no other problems, no sores, no bumps and stuff like that, so far. knock on wood.

Thanks.
Keulikator.