Former Member

[Candoit]

Here are three nuggets of wisdom:

I will not become complacent.

I will not think I ever have this beat.

I will not let myself forget the chains in which kept me constantly tied to a can.

I will not forget how bad the first few weeks sucked.

I will not forget how much healthier I feel now.

I will not forget that we are all one bad decision away from a 19 year cave.

I will not forget that I am an addict.

-bigbamadan

Today

I will remember I am an addict.

I will make the decision to stay quit just for today. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

I will post roll today to both remind myself I am an addict, and to steel my quit against temptation.

Today I will stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow quitters and both hold them up and hold them accountable.

Today I will remember that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping me addicted to nicotine.

Today I will remember Kenzi Kern and I will hug my children tight.

Today I will not hide from my family or friends to satisfy my addiction

Today my battered mind and body will continue to heal from years of ingesting a neurotoxic weed.

Today I live within the bounds of my word and my desire to stay free .

Today I stay quit.

sM.

BirdÂ’s Top Ten

1. Quit for you. This decision to abstain from ANY and ALL NICOTINE is not based on fear or for anyone else.

2. Post roll every damn day. Affirm daily to yourself and to the brotherhood your decision to protect your quit and theirs.

3. Keep you word. Sounds simple until every hits the fan at once but if you canÂ’t look yourself in the mirror honestly then you are a weak link.

4. Hold your brothers accountable to posting and protecting their quit This will require open lines of communication.

5. Have a sense of humor. Life is serious enough and quitting sucks. We did this to ourselves so own your quit.

6. Special butterflies need not apply regardless of your life story or circumstances. Your finger print is the only unique thing about you. Follow the time tested precepts. You are not God’s gift to “quit” and KTC isn’t broken nor DOES IT NEED FIXING OR REINVENTING!

7. Take what you can and leave the rest. It’s called life – roll with the good and bad.

8. Protect your quit daily and if you have extra energy help a brother out. (old or new, we all need encouragement sometimes) the pay it backward and forward principle. Note help may include a boot in the ass every now and then or a 2x4 upside a thick foggy skull

9. No cure, pill or silver bullet to erase our history of nicotine abuse.

10. Wake up and repeat

Choice is yours

[scottludwig]

so hard to stop....owe your family this....can I come back?

Wholly cat shit jetpack! If you still have a can, dump it. You better be quitting for yourself. And if you're asking permission you're probably not ready. Attack your addiction with hatred. Don't be controlled by this shit. QLF every damn minute of every damn day. Be addicted to your quit. You're probably a pretty solid dude but we all better hear the POP of your head coming out of your ass starting right now. You're not going to feel sorry for your weak addicted ass. You're going fight for your freedom and release those chains once and for all. Never again for any reason.

[AppleJack]

Ok, I will get it together. I will spend some time writing why I failed and why I want back in. No offense taken about being a 2x looser, it's true. I owe my family this. Not going on a rant, but who would believe chewing tobacco could be this hard to quit! I'm sure most of us are ass kickers with everything we do, but some stupid stuff like this is so hard to stop. If I only knew!!!! God this sucks!!

Soooo... this is your 3rd "try", eh?

I'm going to flat out admit I'm a little "Old School KTC" and I'm not down with multiple chances.
Not even a little.

I won't apologize for saying that I think you should not be allowed to "try" again.

Multi-Cavers suck and taint this site.

You didn't get it the first time... you didn't get it the second time... and your track record doesn't inspire confidence in this 3rd time.

However, the sheer number of you weak bitches make me tired so...

Own it this time.
Get involved and stay involved.
Do it or GTFO.

[JetPack48]

Ok, I will get it together. I will spend some time writing why I failed and why I want back in. No offense taken about being a 2x looser, it's true. I owe my family this. Not going on a rant, but who would believe chewing tobacco could be this hard to quit! I'm sure most of us are ass kickers with everything we do, but some stupid stuff like this is so hard to stop. If I only knew!!!! God this sucks!!

[Bill Dance]

Jet, you really need to nut up and either quit for good or just keep on dipping and stop making yourself miserable. You were in my group and as I approach 300 days I am damn glad that I stuck it out and resisted every urge and crave. You CAN do it man, I know you can but you gonna have to fight for your freedom because as you know, its not free or easily attained. Its time for you to pick a side and stick with it, whichever way you decide to go

Bill D.

[69franx]

Quit for 3 months ... Hell no! You had 200+ days that you had before

let me remind you of what your answers were last time and how you said it would be different. I want to quit with you for good and will hold you accountable but as others stated it has to start with you owning it and admitting wholehearted that you are an addict, anything short then dont bother

This is copy of the response you posted after caving mere days after hitting over 200 days free from the horse turds...

1. What happened? I set myself up for failure by stressing over everything. I did not think hard enough and at random used while out drinking. This erasing over 200 fucking days of pure hard earned progress! And the thing is I let my kids down, this group as well as myself.

2. Why did it happen? I actually thought, just this one small time will not matter. I'll store it away in a small mental compartment and imagine it never happened. Wrong! I am an addict and there never will be a time I can do this. The fight to resist will become unbearable again, it will feel like fighting for my life again to stop. I will say this, I chewed for 20 plus years and until this group I have been able to stop more than a week. I am not patting myself on the back, the reality is I fucking failed!

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Again I failed, even though I made a short period of being quit, something else needs to change in my approach. As some of you mentioned we all have stress. Through the years I chewed more when I have to many things going on and cannot manage them. This is when I need to ask for your help, I need to call and talk about it. Not about the stress, but basically the thought of buying tobacco. I seem to take on too many things at once: Projects at work, projects at home, an accelerated grad class I started two weeks ago. You don't want to here the whining I know. Phone number is : xxx.xxx.xxxx. If anyone wants to trade numbers let me know? I truly look forward to being back track starting with day one again group. I apologize for failing my family, the group and myself.


Something for sure has to change in order for you to be successful and i want to be there with you my man but answer up in all 3 (2 old and 1 new) of your quit groups and get to posting that roll. you can PM if you need help

ABQ everyday all day and twice on Sunday!

Everything this guy said. He is rocking his quit in Nov and a leader to everyone in there. Obviously, he also does his research before posting. Have we gotten your Attention. Do we have your Interest? Have you made your Decision to quit? What Action are you going to take to make this last? AIDA, Alec Baldwin said it best, I have merely re-purposed it for our needs

[Swilson]

Quit for 3 months ... Hell no! You had 200+ days that you had before

let me remind you of what your answers were last time and how you said it would be different. I want to quit with you for good and will hold you accountable but as others stated it has to start with you owning it and admitting wholehearted that you are an addict, anything short then dont bother

This is copy of the response you posted after caving mere days after hitting over 200 days free from the horse turds...

1. What happened? I set myself up for failure by stressing over everything. I did not think hard enough and at random used while out drinking. This erasing over 200 fucking days of pure hard earned progress! And the thing is I let my kids down, this group as well as myself.

2. Why did it happen? I actually thought, just this one small time will not matter. I'll store it away in a small mental compartment and imagine it never happened. Wrong! I am an addict and there never will be a time I can do this. The fight to resist will become unbearable again, it will feel like fighting for my life again to stop. I will say this, I chewed for 20 plus years and until this group I have been able to stop more than a week. I am not patting myself on the back, the reality is I fucking failed!

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Again I failed, even though I made a short period of being quit, something else needs to change in my approach. As some of you mentioned we all have stress. Through the years I chewed more when I have to many things going on and cannot manage them. This is when I need to ask for your help, I need to call and talk about it. Not about the stress, but basically the thought of buying tobacco. I seem to take on too many things at once: Projects at work, projects at home, an accelerated grad class I started two weeks ago. You don't want to here the whining I know. Phone number is : xxx.xxx.xxxx. If anyone wants to trade numbers let me know? I truly look forward to being back track starting with day one again group. I apologize for failing my family, the group and myself.


Something for sure has to change in order for you to be successful and i want to be there with you my man but answer up in all 3 (2 old and 1 new) of your quit groups and get to posting that roll. you can PM if you need help

ABQ everyday all day and twice on Sunday!

[Supplehands]

You have a decision to make. You can set one of two very different examples here.

1. You can rise from the ashes of defeat, learn from the failure and be a leader here (as some former cavers become great leaders because they hold themselves extra accountable). You can lead other new members and teach them how to avoid pitfalls and drive home the importance of roll. You can start by answering the 3 questions sincerely and accept criticism with humility as you reflect internally on how what went wrong and how you will overcome it.

2. You can repeat the same behavior and become another serial caver that vets point to as an example of what not to do.

I want you to quit. I want you to choose option 1. But it starts with you burning all your life boats and creatinh a situation where your only option is to succeed. You ready to be all in?

[pky1520]

Hello all, as a former quitter is there any way I can recommit back into a quit group? I was quit for about 3 months, caved to nicotine. I then quit for another 2 months without KTC but later caved again and have not been able to kill the can 100 percent. While I will say I chew alot less, I know any nicotine at all is pure failure, without support, I'll never quit. It just won't happen. The only time I was ever able to quit for 3 months was with this method of being accountable.

Get your ass in to the December Quit Group. It's time for you to sack up and own your Quit! If you're truly ready to do that, then welcome back. If you're on the fence, and still finger banging a can, then no need to sign back on. I think you wouldn't be here if you weren't serious, so take the leap. QUIT. Now, go get in to the group and be a Leader over there. Exchange digits with other quitters, and take this seriously.

Spend some serious time with your three questions. Post them in BOTH of you old groups. Actually listen and learn from the responses and don't get defensive. You're a two time loser here, you're going to have some work to do if you want anyone to believe in you.

Above all, you have to actually WANT this. If you aren't sure and you aren't willing to throw absolutely everything at it, then please don't even bother.

[BDunn]

Hello all, as a former quitter is there any way I can recommit back into a quit group? I was quit for about 3 months, caved to nicotine. I then quit for another 2 months without KTC but later caved again and have not been able to kill the can 100 percent. While I will say I chew alot less, I know any nicotine at all is pure failure, without support, I'll never quit. It just won't happen. The only time I was ever able to quit for 3 months was with this method of being accountable.

Get your ass in to the December Quit Group. It's time for you to sack up and own your Quit! If you're truly ready to do that, then welcome back. If you're on the fence, and still finger banging a can, then no need to sign back on. I think you wouldn't be here if you weren't serious, so take the leap. QUIT. Now, go get in to the group and be a Leader over there. Exchange digits with other quitters, and take this seriously.

[JetPack48]

Hello all, as a former quitter is there any way I can recommit back into a quit group? I was quit for about 3 months, caved to nicotine. I then quit for another 2 months without KTC but later caved again and have not been able to kill the can 100 percent. While I will say I chew alot less, I know any nicotine at all is pure failure, without support, I'll never quit. It just won't happen. The only time I was ever able to quit for 3 months was with this method of being accountable.