I will quit yesterday

[Brad64]

I will quit tomorrow, I will quit tomorrow, I will quit tomorrow..... FUCK IT I think I will quit yesterday and keep it that way chew is really pissing me off now, holy shit it had total control of me.....

Day 2 (in the kinda pissed at the world phase)

Thanks guys.....

Yes! Rant on bro! Yesterday is a great day to quit!

[drawn17]

I will quit tomorrow, I will quit tomorrow, I will quit tomorrow..... FUCK IT I think I will quit yesterday and keep it that way chew is really pissing me off now, holy shit it had total control of me.....

Day 2 (in the kinda pissed at the world phase)

Thanks guys.....

[Brad64]

Thanks for the tip. been working with cut off zip ties so I am either eating, sucking on a zip tie or sucking down a cold beer this SUCKS SHIT and I am pretty sure my wife isn't going to sleep with me for at least 6 months but I have a 2,4, and 6 year old so I was facing at least a 5 month dry spell anyway...

We're right here with ya brother. We're neck deep in this shit.

If it helps any at all, know that my day 4 has been easier than day 3. It still sucks shit right out of a rusty pipe, but it's better.

[drawn17]

Thanks for the tip. been working with cut off zip ties so I am either eating, sucking on a zip tie or sucking down a cold beer this SUCKS SHIT and I am pretty sure my wife isn't going to sleep with me for at least 6 months but I have a 2,4, and 6 year old so I was facing at least a 5 month dry spell anyway...

[PatrickC]

Couple things, Drawn...

First, I'm on day 6 so i'm not that far from you. i know how hard the decision to quit is. But, from the sound of your situation, you GOTTA quit. if you're worried about sunflower seeds screwing your lip up, what does that say about the shit we've all been plugging into our faces for years??

Second, I quit at 3pm last friday. I went to roll call and posted day 0 - because I probably had a half dozen lippers that day while the other brothers on this site had none, so out of respect for them, I didn't think I could justify my day being the same as theirs. But, i was motivated to post Day 1 on saturday. An this morning, i posted day 6. Tomorrow, i AM going to post Day 7.

Third, as for substitutes, sounds like you're lip looks like shit and some of the typical solutions won't work for you, in particular salty seeds. Just to satisfy the mental part, i've been wrapping a piece or two of Dentine gum in a quarter piece of napkin and dropping it in like a dip. I get the mint (was a Kodiak Wintergreen bitch) sensation and the plug. Just a thought.

Hang in there. I'm in June with Brad, but we'll come over to July to make sure you're still posting.

-PC

[chewie]

I couldn't post 1 day for 2 reasons, first, I had 1 yesterday in the morning before I posted that and before I threw all of the crap away on everyones advise so I didn't have a day without it yet. 2nd, I have no idea how to and assumed you had to wait until your first day was done.... This will be my first day without it so I thought I would try to find out how to post a day tonight......hope that answers your question mns36..... trading my morning chew for cut off zip ties SUCKS.....

Here's instructions on posting roll: index.php?showtopic=50

For my money, day 1 is the day you decide to quit... if you had a dip today but you've decided to quit then today is day 1.

Bottom line is this... make a decision. Stick to it. Quit for today and don't worry about forever. Then quit again tomorrow.

chewie

[drawn17]

I couldn't post 1 day for 2 reasons, first, I had 1 yesterday in the morning before I posted that and before I threw all of the crap away on everyones advice so I didn't have a day without it yet. 2nd, I have no idea how to and assumed you had to wait until your first day was done.... This will be my first day without it so I thought I would try to find out how to post a day tonight......hope that answers your question mns36..... trading my morning chew for cut off zip ties SUCKS.....

[CCM]

A month ago I went to the doctor for a sore mouth and to get medication to quit chewing, she complied and referred me to an ENT due to the condition of my mouth.  I was informed by him that although he is unable to feel anything cancerous at this time due to the condition of my mouth, it was full of pre-cancerous cells and if I was to continue it is not a matter of if but when I will develop cancer.  Addiotionally, due to the cells in my mouth now there is a likelyhood I will develop it anyway.  He wants me back in 2 months to re-assess me and biopsy if needed.  With a wife and 3 little kids that seems like a pretty strong motivator right.  Fortunately for me a friend tipped me off to you guys and I found someone who knows how tough it is.  I had back surgery about 5 years ago and was on pain medicine for 15 months regularly.  I was able to kick that no problem (the DT's sucked but they only lasted about 3 days, then I started to almost get a high just knowing I didn't need them anymore) and besides I needed a prescription SA and 7-11 don't sell percocet and oxycontin.
     While I have slowed to a crawl and no longer allow it to touch my lower lip I do cheat a couple of times a day with the upper lip in an attempt to wean myself down from the 600 mg/day level I was at.  It is starting to get easier to avoid the can but it seems I need those 2-3 chews a day just to motivate me by having something to look forward to.
     I have been chewing for 20 years averaging 2 cans a day with an average of 3 cans a day for about the last 3 years.  I am trying wellbutrin now, I have patches and gum but have been staying away from them knowing that essentially all I am doing is prolonging what I will eventually have to do anyway.  I have people around that would support me but they just don't get it, they don't know how hard it truly is and as a result really have no idea how to support me.
     Here it is boys...... I laid it all out there for the first time ever, any help or advice you guys can give me would be great, I cannot post day 1 yet but really want to..........

Thanks,
Devin

If anyone wants to e-mail me with tips feel free drawn17@comcast.net

The main thing that sticks out from your post is that you do not appear to have a plan to quit. You plan to quit, but you do not have a plan to do it. Without a plan you will just wander back and forth between methods and rationalizations and will ultimately remain a nicotine addict. That I can promise you.


Answer this first and foremost: Do you want to quit?

If the answer is yes, then you need to have a plan and you need to stick to it. No exceptions. No deviations (unless recommended by a doctor). You need to want to execute your plan. You need to want to quit. If you truly don't, then don't waste your time. But if you really, really do want to quit then you have two options:

Some will tell you that the only plan to quit is cold turkey. If that is your method of quitting, then so be it. Throw your current can away, spit the crap out, and begin your quit. Good luck. It will suck for a while. No doubt about it.

If you believe you need a methodical cessation plan (Meds, patches, weaning, etc..), then please outline that plan in this thread so it is clear to us and you exactly what that plan is. Then it is up to you to make sure you do not, under any circumstances deviate from this plan that will ultimately lead to your quitting (unless recommended by a doctor). I do have some bad news for you if you pick this method - it is not painless. This was my method and it sucked as well.

If you believe you need to try a bunch of types of things and see what seems to fit you best, that's fine. But I'm guessing you will not get much support here for this approach. The people on this site believe in making plans, sticking with them, and meeting all goals no matter how uncomfortable. Not everybody quits the same, but everybody who has successfully quit will tell you they had a plan and stuck to it.

Get a plan (and a clue) and do what you need to do. Quitting will not be painless. Do not kid yourself. There is no easy answer. If you want to quit, it's time to pay up.

[mns36]

A month ago I went to the doctor for a sore mouth and to get medication to quit chewing, she complied and referred me to an ENT due to the condition of my mouth. I was informed by him that although he is unable to feel anything cancerous at this time due to the condition of my mouth, it was full of pre-cancerous cells and if I was to continue it is not a matter of if but when I will develop cancer. Addiotionally, due to the cells in my mouth now there is a likelyhood I will develop it anyway. He wants me back in 2 months to re-assess me and biopsy if needed. With a wife and 3 little kids that seems like a pretty strong motivator right. Fortunately for me a friend tipped me off to you guys and I found someone who knows how tough it is. I had back surgery about 5 years ago and was on pain medicine for 15 months regularly. I was able to kick that no problem (the DT's sucked but they only lasted about 3 days, then I started to almost get a high just knowing I didn't need them anymore) and besides I needed a prescription SA and 7-11 don't sell percocet and oxycontin.
While I have slowed to a crawl and no longer allow it to touch my lower lip I do cheat a couple of times a day with the upper lip in an attempt to wean myself down from the 600 mg/day level I was at. It is starting to get easier to avoid the can but it seems I need those 2-3 chews a day just to motivate me by having something to look forward to.
I have been chewing for 20 years averaging 2 cans a day with an average of 3 cans a day for about the last 3 years. I am trying wellbutrin now, I have patches and gum but have been staying away from them knowing that essentially all I am doing is prolonging what I will eventually have to do anyway. I have people around that would support me but they just don't get it, they don't know how hard it truly is and as a result really have no idea how to support me.
Here it is boys...... I laid it all out there for the first time ever, any help or advice you guys can give me would be great, I cannot post day 1 yet but really want to..........

Thanks,
Devin

If anyone wants to e-mail me with tips feel free drawn17@comcast.net

Why cant you post day 1 yet?

You "need" 2-3 chews a day to motivate you?

You no longer allow it to touch your lower lip so now you are working on fucking up the upper one too?

The big question is WHY CANT YOU POST DAY 1 YET?

You dont sound like a very bright fella.

That is all I am going to say. Glad these other guys are here for you. I however think that you are not serious about this.

[epd223]

You ask a question to help a problem on this site and bro you received mad good advice from everywhere. It is awesome that you put the shit down and awesome that you searched for answers. Now go about the business of quitting anyway that you can.

We will all be hanging around here brother!!!!

[Toddy]

I'm in your quit group Drawn. Like you...I'm still feeling my way through all this stuff (Day 2) Your not alone.

[nkt]

Thats the shty part EPD no seeds and no hard candy, nothing that will irritate my mouth doctors orders, and I was just starting to get into the spicy garlic giant seeds too fk

my mouth was pretty trashed in the beginning too. Shredded coconut worked really well; actually made it feel better. Just make sure to get stuff without any added sugar etc. and maybe ask your doc if it's that critical.

As far as roll call, today is your day-1 since you spit out your last dip today.
go here: July 2009 HOF

How to post roll call

Welcome aboard! We're glad to have you here.

[drawn17]

THANK YOU MOVE....... you reminded cut off zip ties at work holy crap, I used to cut those off, throw them in my mouth and not chew for hours

[drawn17]

I don't really know how the roll call works..... is it first day free? the day after.... either way, won't do it again...........

[Move Forward]

Thats the shty part EPD no seeds and no hard candy, nothing that will irritate my mouth doctors orders, and I was just starting to get into the spicy garlic giant seeds too fk

drawn17,

First off, congratulations on deciding to quit. Great decision my friend. It won't be easy, but stick close to this site for support, it does come in handy. Nothing like support from someone who knows exactly what you're going through, and we all know exactly how you feel. You can do this.

Secondly, I see that your doctor doesn't want anything that can irritate the mouth. I'm not into chewing a lot of candy, seeds, etc...What I have found that helps me, I chew on either straws or toothpicks. That may be something you can try, it doesn't really irritate the mouth. It's not something that you're moving around inside the mouth like gum, candy or seeds might. Just a suggestion that may or may not help you out.

You can do this, we're here for you!

Stay Strong-Stay Quit!

MF