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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2014, 10:27:00 PM »
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
You got it man. Just don't make me look like a sucker for vouching for you when you get back! Have a good trip, you should be coming out of the worst of the fog now. Still gonna be some slow times, but the worst is behind you as far as that goes. Just remember, after 72 hours, the nic is outta your system.

Proud to be quit with you today brother.
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2014, 10:25:00 PM »
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
You got it man. Just don't make me look like a sucker for vouching for you when you get back! Have a good trip, you should be coming out of the worst of the fog now. Still gonna be some slow times, but the worst is behind you as far as that goes. Just remember, after 72 hours, the nic is outta your system.

Proud to be quit with you today brother.
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2014, 10:18:00 PM »
It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2014, 10:01:00 AM »
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.

My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.

I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
Chief, your intro is supposed to be a journal of your quit. Remember these first days of your quit. You will never want to be day 1 again. Also read through lots of intros and see the common things and timing of the stages of quit.
Keep drinking lots of water, and get some exercise to burn off that rage. You wouldn't be the first KTC member to have a crazy rage rant on their intro either, that is also what it's for.
Fake dip should be in your arsenal of quit. Really helps take the edge off in the early days, and even though I can't remember the last time I used any I still keep some on hand.
So since you cannot physically get any poison just enjoy your vacation.

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2014, 09:49:00 AM »
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.

My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.

I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
Awesome post. Don't apologize, that's what the intros are intended for. That way when you're having a crave on day 70, you can look back and see how far you've come and why you never ever wanna go back. Have a good vacation Chief, and keep quitting like a BAMF. I'm quit with you today.
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2014, 07:38:00 AM »
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
Chief....I'm enjoying reading your posts. You are bringing a great steady attitude to your quit. Keep grinding.
How can you not like a guy who's on Day 2 in the service in Germany that posts at 1:20 ET where's my new roll? I'm ready to commit...

Chief - Hang in there today, you got this. Enjoy the beach.

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2014, 07:37:00 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.

My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.

I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
Sultans-- 'stick' --Nic

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2014, 07:28:00 AM »
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
Chief....I'm enjoying reading your posts. You are bringing a great steady attitude to your quit. Keep grinding.

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2014, 03:33:00 AM »
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
Sultans-- 'stick' --Nic

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2014, 02:54:00 AM »
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2014, 02:12:00 AM »
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It may be too early in your quit to start dealing with wife jokes, but I'm going to anyway: "He does have a great wife, check out that pink tie she got me in my avatar." 'boob' 'oh yeah'
Haha, I am in the Army so I have heard some of the most disturbing "jokes". I am not phased by that type of stuff :P

Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
Sultans-- 'stick' --Nic

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2014, 05:38:00 PM »
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Thanks for the words of advice and support from everyone.

I am almost finished with Day 1 over here in Germany. I had quite a few cravings but nothing that wasn't manageable. I definitely felt myself beginning to enter the fog around 18:00(CEST). I was in a german bakery ordering some food and it was as if the filter between my thoughts and brain had been removed. After about 30 seconds of scanning the food behind the glass and glancing at the other customers, I realized that everything I had been thinking was actually being said out loud. At first I started to get embarrassed, then mad, but all I could do was step back and just laugh uncontrollably at how crazy nicotine was making my brain. I am trying to keep myself in a positive mood so I can blast through this first week.
It may well be that the only positive you can find for the next couple of the days is that you never will have to go through this again, as long as you stay quit. My coworkers will be really pissed if I cave, because they have put up with my early stoppage crankiness time and time again. You are so fortunate to have found the tools you will need in this battle. It also sounds like you have a great wife. I bet she will enjoy this site as well.
It may be too early in your quit to start dealing with wife jokes, but I'm going to anyway: "He does have a great wife, check out that pink tie she got me in my avatar." 'boob' 'oh yeah'
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2014, 04:56:00 PM »
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Thanks for the words of advice and support from everyone.

I am almost finished with Day 1 over here in Germany. I had quite a few cravings but nothing that wasn't manageable. I definitely felt myself beginning to enter the fog around 18:00(CEST). I was in a german bakery ordering some food and it was as if the filter between my thoughts and brain had been removed. After about 30 seconds of scanning the food behind the glass and glancing at the other customers, I realized that everything I had been thinking was actually being said out loud. At first I started to get embarrassed, then mad, but all I could do was step back and just laugh uncontrollably at how crazy nicotine was making my brain. I am trying to keep myself in a positive mood so I can blast through this first week.
It may well be that the only positive you can find for the next couple of the days is that you never will have to go through this again, as long as you stay quit. My coworkers will be really pissed if I cave, because they have put up with my early stoppage crankiness time and time again. You are so fortunate to have found the tools you will need in this battle. It also sounds like you have a great wife. I bet she will enjoy this site as well.

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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2014, 04:31:00 PM »
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.

I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.

Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.

I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.

I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.

I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.

-UH60Chief
It's like looking in a mirror. Most of us have been there. Nic is a sneaky little bastard. But you are here now. You will NOT fail again. You can do this. No more excuses. No more caving. You will find all the support you need here. Have the guts to find your strength. Reach out if you need ANYTHING.
Ditto....and BOOM baby. Well put Sporty
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Re: Fell off the horse, time to saddle back up
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2014, 04:23:00 PM »
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.

I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.

Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.

I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.

I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.

I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.

-UH60Chief
It's like looking in a mirror. Most of us have been there. Nic is a sneaky little bastard. But you are here now. You will NOT fail again. You can do this. No more excuses. No more caving. You will find all the support you need here. Have the guts to find your strength. Reach out if you need ANYTHING.