Day 2;

[Lost]

I'm day 109 and I'm just now starting to back off the fake stuff... I was a lot like you, always having to have one in, and the oral fixation was a big part of it for me.

I figured I would fight one war at a time, I wanted the nicotine gone and I was willing to deal with the fake stuff to make sure that happened. Now that I am (more) comfortable in my quit the fake is on it's way out too....

Hope it helps

[Seth]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it.  watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc.  and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious.  I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work.  Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected.  I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves. 

My question is this.  I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time.  Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

Hijack successful. . .but only because I think it's an important question. If I remember correctly, there was someone in October '10 who started some anti anxiety meds in the 60s or 70s. If it's not getting at least a little better, bring it up to your doc.

[DeezNutzz]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it.  watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc.  and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious.  I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work.  Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected.  I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves. 

My question is this.  I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time.  Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.

STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT

Brian

I was in the same boat as brain and teaka. From what most guys tell me, you will eventually find youself not needed fake. But, for right now...do absolutely whatever it takes to keep the real stuff out. The rest will take care of itself.

I am only at 44 days so by no means a pro. However I was told that this is my quit and I must protect it! For me that is using the fake like its going out of style. I too had always had a pinch in my mouth. In the begining of my quit I was going through A can of Smokey every two days. Now its taking about four days per can. However the best part---When I run out of smokey in the evening watching TV. I can tell myself ahhh I will pick up some tomorrow. Back in the day that would of been an emergancy trip to the gas station. Bottom line---If you are going through two cans of fake every day who fucken cares.. Keep that nic out of your mouth and you will find ---eventually no need for the fake

[redtrain14]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it.  watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc.  and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious.  I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work.  Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected.  I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves. 

My question is this.  I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time.  Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.

STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT

Brian

I was in the same boat as brain and teaka. From what most guys tell me, you will eventually find youself not needed fake. But, for right now...do absolutely whatever it takes to keep the real stuff out. The rest will take care of itself.

[brianl]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it.  watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc.  and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious.  I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work.  Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected.  I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves. 

My question is this.  I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time.  Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.

STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT

Brian

[Bean]

I didn't use the fake stuff, but I think you should do whatever you have to to stay nic free. You already consider it a stupid habit. So I bet that it will be easy to quit when you're ready...just my guess. I'm not using the fake because I am concerned it might irritate my gums, cause receding gums, etc. Does anyone know?

Also, Teaka, I totally understand...I've had to leave early a few times too...for same reason. The receptionist's voice irritates me (like in Office Space), the mess in our kitchen and microwave pisses me off, co-workers who are late to work, etc. When did I become the a-hole? These things never really bothered me before. In fact, I used to make fun of old farts who acted like I do now?!!! I hope this passes...but I'm already at 50 days.

[davenc]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it.  watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc.  and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious.  I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work.  Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected.  I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves. 

My question is this.  I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time.  Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

You are very early in your quit and you shouldn't be worrying about getting away from the fake snuff right now. The fake snuff or any other non-nicotene product you use is going to be your lifeline for a while. So just relax and do whatever you feel is right to stay nic free.

From my experience I used mint snuff off and on for about 3 weeks but I was also chewing a lot of gum to help me get by. Nowadays I hardly have a crave for a dip and I don't care for the fake anymore. I just chew some juicy fruit and move on.

[teaka]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.

My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.

Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?

[Greg5280]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.

My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

This is debated every time a new group gets started. Here is my opinion.

I used fake early on in my quit, used it almost like I did the real stuff. It is grass and weeds so it is not addictive. I say use it as you need it. Over time you will just naturally stop using it.

I still have two cans in my golf bag that I have been carrying around for months. I still keep some around as part of my quit plan, but I do not use it like I was early on.

Get some gum, seeds, straws, toothpics,candy. They all help.

STAY QUIT
Greg

[chucklehead]

Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:

I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.

I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.

My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

[Greg5280]

Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did.  From what I here that's not abnormal.  between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body. 

It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others.  I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew."  or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.". 

I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.

I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.

Hang in there brother. It sucks now but it will get easier.
Don't worry about forever, worry about today. Then get up in the morning, post roll and worry about that day.....repeat.

It takes a while to break those mental barriers but you will do it. Remember that you are in control now, not the Nic Bitch.

Like my man Brian says do this one day at a time. Break it down to an hour or a minute at a time if you have to.

You are right, the mental part of this is difficult but not impossible. Get your mind right and lets get this done.

Read the article Chewie sent you, there are others on the concept of doing this one day at a time. IT CAN BE DONE !!

STAY QUIT
Greg

[brianl]

Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.

It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".

I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.

I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.

Hang in there brother. It sucks now but it will get easier.
Don't worry about forever, worry about today. Then get up in the morning, post roll and worry about that day.....repeat.

It takes a while to break those mental barriers but you will do it. Remember that you are in control now, not the Nic Bitch.

[Bean]

This is gut check time...are you tougher than the nic bitch? Do you have the will power to focus on this site and not put that shit in your mouth? I hope so...I really hope so. Because if not, you might want to select a grave site.

[chewie]

Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.

It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".

I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.

I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.

Dealing With Craves  The Concept Of Forever: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp

[chucklehead]

Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.

It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".

I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.

I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.