Day 6 quit, no turning back

[Steakbomb18]

There are some who are judgmental of one's responses to the 3 questions, what happened, why did it happen, and what are you going to do differently.  I am not one of those people...

You got a great quit going Steakbomb! Keep it up today.

Saw this post from you in another thread  wanted to comment on it. Don't take this the wrong way... just wanted to give you my thoughts since it got me thinking.

I don't think anyone sits in judgement of any caver that has the guts to come back and respond to the 3 questions  go after their quit.

However, we owe it to them  the rest of the quitters at KTC to help them walk thru the questions in order to set them up for success. That is the whole point behind it... a caver coming back had failed before. They need to dig deep to figure out what happened, why it happened  what will be done differently to prevent it from happening again.

People go about it in different ways, but it is not "judgment".

If we don't make an effort to help the person, then they are doomed to repeat their previous actions. That is why they have to answer the questions in the first place.

Anyhow, keep up the quit.

Thank you Derk, you never fail to tell it like it is. I do full-heartedly agree with you and I don't think there is a right or wrong way to approach a caver. Some go strait to the support, some layer on the tough love. Both are needed. Some disect a cavers answers and challenge them to their utmost to uphold their quit from that point forward; others offer words of wisdom, shared experiences, or a mix of hardass and support . All facets are needed. I for one need to hear the full spectrum opinions because it keeps me accountable; and because of that I believe we all need to hear, read, and learn the full gamut of opinions to hold ourselves accountable.

[Derk40]

There are some who are judgmental of one's responses to the 3 questions, what happened, why did it happen, and what are you going to do differently.  I am not one of those people...

You got a great quit going Steakbomb! Keep it up today.

Saw this post from you in another thread  wanted to comment on it. Don't take this the wrong way... just wanted to give you my thoughts since it got me thinking.

I don't think anyone sits in judgement of any caver that has the guts to come back and respond to the 3 questions  go after their quit.

However, we owe it to them  the rest of the quitters at KTC to help them walk thru the questions in order to set them up for success. That is the whole point behind it... a caver coming back had failed before. They need to dig deep to figure out what happened, why it happened  what will be done differently to prevent it from happening again.

People go about it in different ways, but it is not "judgment".

If we don't make an effort to help the person, then they are doomed to repeat their previous actions. That is why they have to answer the questions in the first place.

Anyhow, keep up the quit.

[brettlees]

Last night I returned from what ended up being a 4 day business trip, my first trip since quitting.  Leading up to this trip, I was experiencing cravings…cravings for the future situation (i.e. alone at the hotel with nothin to do but throw in a fat lippah).  And complicating matters, my computer wasn't connecting to the internet.  Well, I'm happy to say that I made it, I did not cave.  Looking back at the situation I think the key reason I was able to stay strong is that no matter my situation, I was going to make sure I posted roll that day.  I figured out how to do it from my phone, but I also had prepared myself with numbers knowing I had a team (worktowin, brettlees, big brother Jack) ready to post that promise for me if I couldn't figure it out. 

Posting roll is the most important thing I do every day.  I would argue that it's more important than telling my wife and kids that I love them because if I don't stay quit, then how much longer would I be able to say that to them every day?  I f'n love posting roll every day and proclaiming my freedom from the can; and I will do everything in my power to get my name on that board for the day.  After having been put in a situation where my ability to post was compromised and having taken a little extra effort to make my daily promise, I really can't see why we can't do this every day.  Stay strong and stay quit my friends.  AND POST ROLL EVERY DAMN DAY!

Nice post! A huge win!

Business trips used to be prime times to sit in a room and go they can after can. Remember when you'd get home and your lip would look like shredded paper? No more. Remember when your gums would bleed and hurt like hell? No more. Remember when you would sit in that room and go to some great cities but never see a damn thing because you were locked in that damn room plant loving? No more.

It keeps getting so much better. Those craves... The concerns and fears... You have built the platform of your quit and one day at a time your toolbox will fill with more ways to make this easier. Good times now. Better ahead. Nicely done.

Good post steakbomb. I know what your feeling. I drive for a living. Once if not twice a month I have to go away from home for one night at a time. Early in my quit I remember feeling the same way. I took me some fake on them trips for while. You talking about rough, it was rough. I didn't have no computer with me, so I would use my phone, get on chat, read some facts on the poison. I hated using my phone for chat, it's was slow (i know tmi). You know what, like you made it, I made it. Now I go on them trips like it's nothing. I brink along some toothpicks and candies and never even give the poison a thought. It gets better and better steakbomb. Keep doing what your doing.

Your quitting is inspiring a lot of individuals here. Keep up the good work and I'm damn proud to be quit with you today.

Nice victory Steakbomb! I was a lot like you and I remember my first work trip well. You battled thru it and came out quit. It gets better with time. Keep at it ODAAT. You are doing great. QLF today!

Wow not much to add after these 3 ^^^ all stars weighed in, but I wanted to say nice job too man, way to go. I travel a lot for work and am finding the freedom of not having to feed the habit to be a real blessing, as the quit gets stronger. Keep it up bro!

[Derk40]

Last night I returned from what ended up being a 4 day business trip, my first trip since quitting.  Leading up to this trip, I was experiencing cravings…cravings for the future situation (i.e. alone at the hotel with nothin to do but throw in a fat lippah).  And complicating matters, my computer wasn't connecting to the internet.  Well, I'm happy to say that I made it, I did not cave.  Looking back at the situation I think the key reason I was able to stay strong is that no matter my situation, I was going to make sure I posted roll that day.  I figured out how to do it from my phone, but I also had prepared myself with numbers knowing I had a team (worktowin, brettlees, big brother Jack) ready to post that promise for me if I couldn't figure it out. 

Posting roll is the most important thing I do every day.  I would argue that it's more important than telling my wife and kids that I love them because if I don't stay quit, then how much longer would I be able to say that to them every day?  I f'n love posting roll every day and proclaiming my freedom from the can; and I will do everything in my power to get my name on that board for the day.  After having been put in a situation where my ability to post was compromised and having taken a little extra effort to make my daily promise, I really can't see why we can't do this every day.  Stay strong and stay quit my friends.  AND POST ROLL EVERY DAMN DAY!

Nice post! A huge win!

Business trips used to be prime times to sit in a room and go they can after can. Remember when you'd get home and your lip would look like shredded paper? No more. Remember when your gums would bleed and hurt like hell? No more. Remember when you would sit in that room and go to some great cities but never see a damn thing because you were locked in that damn room plant loving? No more.

It keeps getting so much better. Those craves... The concerns and fears... You have built the platform of your quit and one day at a time your toolbox will fill with more ways to make this easier. Good times now. Better ahead. Nicely done.

Good post steakbomb. I know what your feeling. I drive for a living. Once if not twice a month I have to go away from home for one night at a time. Early in my quit I remember feeling the same way. I took me some fake on them trips for while. You talking about rough, it was rough. I didn't have no computer with me, so I would use my phone, get on chat, read some facts on the poison. I hated using my phone for chat, it's was slow (i know tmi). You know what, like you made it, I made it. Now I go on them trips like it's nothing. I brink along some toothpicks and candies and never even give the poison a thought. It gets better and better steakbomb. Keep doing what your doing.

Your quitting is inspiring a lot of individuals here. Keep up the good work and I'm damn proud to be quit with you today.

Nice victory Steakbomb! I was a lot like you and I remember my first work trip well. You battled thru it and came out quit. It gets better with time. Keep at it ODAAT. You are doing great. QLF today!

[srans]

Last night I returned from what ended up being a 4 day business trip, my first trip since quitting.  Leading up to this trip, I was experiencing cravings…cravings for the future situation (i.e. alone at the hotel with nothin to do but throw in a fat lippah).  And complicating matters, my computer wasn't connecting to the internet.  Well, I'm happy to say that I made it, I did not cave.  Looking back at the situation I think the key reason I was able to stay strong is that no matter my situation, I was going to make sure I posted roll that day.  I figured out how to do it from my phone, but I also had prepared myself with numbers knowing I had a team (worktowin, brettlees, big brother Jack) ready to post that promise for me if I couldn't figure it out. 

Posting roll is the most important thing I do every day.  I would argue that it's more important than telling my wife and kids that I love them because if I don't stay quit, then how much longer would I be able to say that to them every day?  I f'n love posting roll every day and proclaiming my freedom from the can; and I will do everything in my power to get my name on that board for the day.  After having been put in a situation where my ability to post was compromised and having taken a little extra effort to make my daily promise, I really can't see why we can't do this every day.  Stay strong and stay quit my friends.  AND POST ROLL EVERY DAMN DAY!

Nice post! A huge win!

Business trips used to be prime times to sit in a room and go they can after can. Remember when you'd get home and your lip would look like shredded paper? No more. Remember when your gums would bleed and hurt like hell? No more. Remember when you would sit in that room and go to some great cities but never see a damn thing because you were locked in that damn room plant loving? No more.

It keeps getting so much better. Those craves... The concerns and fears... You have built the platform of your quit and one day at a time your toolbox will fill with more ways to make this easier. Good times now. Better ahead. Nicely done.

Good post steakbomb. I know what your feeling. I drive for a living. Once if not twice a month I have to go away from home for one night at a time. Early in my quit I remember feeling the same way. I took me some fake on them trips for while. You talking about rough, it was rough. I didn't have no computer with me, so I would use my phone, get on chat, read some facts on the poison. I hated using my phone for chat, it's was slow (i know tmi). You know what, like you made it, I made it. Now I go on them trips like it's nothing. I brink along some toothpicks and candies and never even give the poison a thought. It gets better and better steakbomb. Keep doing what your doing.

Your quitting is inspiring a lot of individuals here. Keep up the good work and I'm damn proud to be quit with you today.

[worktowin]

Last night I returned from what ended up being a 4 day business trip, my first trip since quitting.  Leading up to this trip, I was experiencing cravings…cravings for the future situation (i.e. alone at the hotel with nothin to do but throw in a fat lippah).  And complicating matters, my computer wasn't connecting to the internet.  Well, I'm happy to say that I made it, I did not cave.  Looking back at the situation I think the key reason I was able to stay strong is that no matter my situation, I was going to make sure I posted roll that day.  I figured out how to do it from my phone, but I also had prepared myself with numbers knowing I had a team (worktowin, brettlees, big brother Jack) ready to post that promise for me if I couldn't figure it out. 

Posting roll is the most important thing I do every day.  I would argue that it's more important than telling my wife and kids that I love them because if I don't stay quit, then how much longer would I be able to say that to them every day?  I f'n love posting roll every day and proclaiming my freedom from the can; and I will do everything in my power to get my name on that board for the day.  After having been put in a situation where my ability to post was compromised and having taken a little extra effort to make my daily promise, I really can't see why we can't do this every day.  Stay strong and stay quit my friends.  AND POST ROLL EVERY DAMN DAY!

Nice post! A huge win!

Business trips used to be prime times to sit in a room and go they can after can. Remember when you'd get home and your lip would look like shredded paper? No more. Remember when your gums would bleed and hurt like hell? No more. Remember when you would sit in that room and go to some great cities but never see a damn thing because you were locked in that damn room plant loving? No more.

It keeps getting so much better. Those craves... The concerns and fears... You have built the platform of your quit and one day at a time your toolbox will fill with more ways to make this easier. Good times now. Better ahead. Nicely done.

[Steakbomb18]

Last night I returned from what ended up being a 4 day business trip, my first trip since quitting. Leading up to this trip, I was experiencing cravingsÂ…cravings for the future situation (i.e. alone at the hotel with nothin to do but throw in a fat lippah). And complicating matters, my computer wasn't connecting to the internet. Well, I'm happy to say that I made it, I did not cave. Looking back at the situation I think the key reason I was able to stay strong is that no matter my situation, I was going to make sure I posted roll that day. I figured out how to do it from my phone, but I also had prepared myself with numbers knowing I had a team (worktowin, brettlees, big brother Jack) ready to post that promise for me if I couldn't figure it out.

Posting roll is the most important thing I do every day. I would argue that it's more important than telling my wife and kids that I love them because if I don't stay quit, then how much longer would I be able to say that to them every day? I f'n love posting roll every day and proclaiming my freedom from the can; and I will do everything in my power to get my name on that board for the day. After having been put in a situation where my ability to post was compromised and having taken a little extra effort to make my daily promise, I really can't see why we can't do this every day. Stay strong and stay quit my friends. AND POST ROLL EVERY DAMN DAY!

[Wt57]

LMAO, when you told about showing your wife you didn't have a dip in. I did that also. Over 33 years my wife caught me about 3 times and thought most of the time I was quit but the last 2 years before I quit she knew and stopped asking. I'm so glad I don't have to always be on alert to who might sneak up on me. Another trait of my ninja dipping was eating with a big lip full. Freedom rocks!

[Steakbomb18]

The Ninja Dipper.

Today, I can proudly say that I was a Ninja Dipper and I like to think I was a master of it on most days. Conversely, I am not proud of that. There were days my master ninja dipping skills were so refined that my wife could ask me if I had a dip in my mouth, and to prove to her I did not, I would pull down my bottom lip; knowing how well I had concealed a solid pinch in my upper lip. I could have a one on one discussion with my boss discretely taking sips of coffee, when in reality I was spitting right in front of him. To the ignorant bystander, I could have a fatty in my lower right lip, nicely nestled in the atrophied pocket between my cheek and gum. I could dip in public, I could dip on plane, I could dip in front of my wife and have a full conversation. All of these typically non-ideal dipping times were in my arsenal of dipping times because I was a master ninja dipper…well,…usually. There were those occasional days when a co-worker would note the quite conspicuous “piece of food” in my teeth. They probably wondered why a black leaf was perfectly wedged between my two front incisors. There were also those miscues where I’d miss the spit hole and a brown staining drool line would land on my business casual attire. And lastly, there was the occasional spill of said spit receptacle, either onto a couch cushion, carpet or other easily stained surface. So despite my skill as a master, there were days I was merely a beginner.

You see, the Ninja Dipper is shameful, one who knows that what they put in their mouth is not socially acceptable. Although smoking has become less acceptable, people arenÂ’t disgusted by the act, yet most non-dippers are disgusted by the nasty brown spew that we spit in to transparent 20oz. coke bottles. This is why we ninja dipped; because we knew it was gross. We knew our art was pathetic. This is just one of the things in my past, that IÂ’m not proud of, despite how good at it I was most days. But today and as I continue on into the future, IÂ’m glad this is a skill that IÂ’m slowly losing my mastery of. I feel a sense of freedom that I do not have to engage in such behavior in front of those whom I love, respect, or even simply donÂ’t know just because I have an undying need to feed my shameful addiction. The mask is now off, and every damn day I will fight to keep it off.

[rdad]

  I fight through the cravings using my dip free days as my fuel, the last thing I want to do is to start over on day 1.

Steak,good job on this. I think remembering the pain in the beginning is one of the best tools. Staying quit through each crave is a lot easier than enduring that first day. You totally get it bro!

[brettlees]

Hi Steak- thanks for the expanded intro. I can sure get behind your quit! I've done a lot of work in health policy while ninja dipping, so I can relate to some of it for sure. Sounds like you have a good start. Keep building your support and accountability network, and logging the quit one day at a time. Today's almost over- but I will be quitting with you tomorrow.

[Steakbomb18]

Thanks to USMCray for reincarnating the Steakbomb thread and the outreach. When I first posted on this site on Day 6, I was naïve to the meaning of an introduction, and having read and posted since that day, I realize that I fell short in giving my fellow quit brothers a real introduction. So here goes.

My name is Andy, IÂ’m 38 years old, married for almost 12 years, and have 2 kids. Living the American dream as some would say. I have a good job, pharmacist by trade, but now have moved on to the managed care industry and have an office job. I started dipping in college, mostly Skoal, as Cope and Kodiak, made me dizzy and tore up my lip. I could dip Skoal longer and more frequently, and prior to my quit was pulling 2 full pinches and a refresher per lip at night (my favorite time). At work, I was a ninja dipper, using the upper because I spit less. Empty morning coffee cups made for the ultimate cover-up, most people probably thought I was drinking coffee all day. Yet despite my healthcare background, and despite having counseled many a patient on the benefits of quitting smoking/tobacco, I was the ultimate hypocrite, and continued to feed my own nicotine demon. It wasnÂ’t until this past summer when I had a check-up and had a blood pressure over 140 and cholesterol at 300 (this is despite being in relatively decent shape), that I realized I needed some major lifestyle changes. My wife had been on me for years, but the labs had me nervous. Â…So I quit the caffeine, opting for the easy road. My BP started to go down, not ideal, but better and I kept feeding the whore. Then about 5 months ago I started experiencing some throat soreness that wouldnÂ’t resolve. I saw an ENT specialist, and the exam was negative, yet I continued to experience soreness in my throat. It was this fear that lead me here. Today, I am 15 days into my quit and couldnÂ’t be happier with my decision to do so. I fight through the cravings using my dip free days as my fuel, the last thing I want to do is to start over on day 1. Whether the tobacco is related to my throat issue or not, I will not continue to let it be a factor (I have a follow-up in 2 weeks with the ENT). Thank you for allowing me to share, thank you for joining me and letting me join you on this journey. If you need anything, just shoot me a note.

[NeonPanther]

I'm newly registered with the site, but have been reading some very inspiring stories since my second day.  These stories of success have given me the strength to work through the fog and stay quit since 12/12/13.  Very grateful to know there are others on the same journey as I and to those who have traveled that road or are traveling that road, I'm going to stay on that road with you.

I quit the same day. What ever you go through, I am too.

Steak! Nice to meet you, I sent a P.M. regarding your post on drews intro, I'll take all the help I can get!

[USMCray]

Right there with you guys also....Day 5 for me, I feel yalls pain LOL

Hell yea brothers!!! I quit with y'all today!! And ass to mouth this nic bitch buddies!!!

[bobby1977]

Right there with you guys also....Day 5 for me, I feel yalls pain LOL