another FNG; new to this site;

[mattatk81]

Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.

The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!

Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!

Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?

Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.

[30yraddict]

Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.

The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!

Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!

Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?

[mattatk81]

Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.

[basshaug]

I read this whole thread.

I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.

Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.

I hope you make the right decision.

Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:

There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine

Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.

Well everyone's view on addiction is different, and how they handle it as well.
As I said, I read the whole thread and this guy didn't like the whole fuck you and your girlfriend approach. So I threw in a little honesty and real. My statement and views don't need a "correction", by thanks for taking the time to see if they did. I was hardly romanticizing tobacco, and I have the attitude and view that I did this to my self and that I need to quit. Nicotine and tobacco do not have a hold on me, I control my life, I no longer will be chewing. I don't think that someone else's thread is the place to be focusing in on others views. So I'll leave it at that.

. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip.

^^^ romanticizing dip. It's over. Glad you are quit moose.

Matt, i saw you lurk in august, you ready to throw that shit out or are you going to throw in a few more pinches first? I sure hope that pinch you throw in today isnt the one that begins to metastasize your saliva gland cells into cancer.

[Moose42]

I read this whole thread.

I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.

Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.

I hope you make the right decision.

Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:

There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine

Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.

Well everyone's view on addiction is different, and how they handle it as well.
As I said, I read the whole thread and this guy didn't like the whole fuck you and your girlfriend approach. So I threw in a little honesty and real. My statement and views don't need a "correction", by thanks for taking the time to see if they did. I was hardly romanticizing tobacco, and I have the attitude and view that I did this to my self and that I need to quit. Nicotine and tobacco do not have a hold on me, I control my life, I no longer will be chewing. I don't think that someone else's thread is the place to be focusing in on others views. So I'll leave it at that.

[chewie]

*sigh*

Back in the day, JMR said it way better than I ever could... so I'll just leave this here.

Throwing Away A Long Term Quit
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... term-quit/

[Frazzled]

This is really simple. I will quote Sco here:

1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems

Your life went to hell? Suck it up, buttercup. We have members here who have cancer and are posting roll. Instead, you come back to your old intro with a fucking fatty in and start preaching about how you need to quit, to a bunch of people who are doing it.

We'll call you every name in the book, but until you get your head unshoved up your ass, nothing we say will matter. You are a waste of time if you think you can solve the above equation with anything other than death or cancer.

So...are you in or not? It's a yes or no question.

[Tuco]

Dipping while posting here. Jesus H Christ. If you ever post roll again, you sure as shit had better do it clean and keep it that way. We'll put up with a fair amount of bullshit here, but a bald lack of integrity isn't one of them.

You've seen your share of shit. Most all of us have to some degree. That's still no excuse to dip yesterday, today, or tomorrow. Exactly many problems did you solve by going back to a can anyway?

Besides, all that stuff that happened before, those are yesterday's problems. It sucks, but you can't do a damn thing about it. Today's problem is that you are a slave to a can and you have been for most of your life. That's a big fucking problem in my book.

What are you going to do about it? Stop in here every 3 or 4 years to kindly let us know that you're still fingering a can of peach skoal while you drink a rootbeer float? Or, are you going say enough to all of that bullshit, quit now, and do whatever it takes to stay that way?

[Done4Me]

Back to Matt and waiting to see if he values his life. Having seen any roll posts. Maybe he's done for now and he'll pop back by for a bit in 2019. Hey guys, I'm 38 now...

[basshaug]

I read this whole thread.

I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.

Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.

I hope you make the right decision.

Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:

There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine

Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.

[Moose42]

I read this whole thread.

I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.

Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.

I hope you make the right decision.

[Wt57]

I don't see anything that tells me that your serious. I will quit with you when you prove that you are serious. I've been quit long enough and seen enough addict come and go to feel fairly confident in judging the future of a quit. Prove all those that are ripping into you wrong. This ought to be interesting. 'Popcorn'

[DL56]

It's so damn easy to say that life is hard. Call me what you want that's why I'm here I enjoy the fact that you are all pricks. So moving forward I am dumping the shit down the toilet and posting up. Go ahead think I'm a pussy that isn't motivated and all the other bullshit you all say it just makes me want to be quit that much more. I don't gotta read about someone dying for motivation... my uncle died on the table awake in his final surgery from this already missing his jaw and his tongue. I know the pain it causes I live it. You say yeah then why are you here? Same as the rest of you pricks.... I'm an addict but now I'm addicted to being done and kicking it's ass. I don't need your approval to be here anymore than you need mine.

Addicted to being done, huh? When was your last dip? Better yet, when is your next dip?

Until you post roll I'm not buying a single word of what your selling.

[Bean]

Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.

If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.

Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.

You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.

1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'

the hypocriay of saying it's about life without a crutch while you are clinging to said crutch blows my mind. Dont fucking post here with a dip in ever again.

Life sucks sometimes. You've had some rough shit go down but so has many others who honored their word and honoroed their lost loved ones by not making them be an excuse to be a dumbass. Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.

Plus fix your answer 3 before you go dropping that shit to your old and new groups. That doesnt sound like a plan at all.

Edit: i merged your intros so everyone can see how this attempt sounds exactly as pathetic as the last one

It's so damn easy to say that life is hard. Call me what you want that's why I'm here I enjoy the fact that you are all pricks. So moving forward I am dumping the shit down the toilet and posting up. Go ahead think I'm a pussy that isn't motivated and all the other bullshit you all say it just makes me want to be quit that much more. I don't gotta read about someone dying for motivation... my uncle died on the table awake in his final surgery from this already missing his jaw and his tongue. I know the pain it causes I live it. You say yeah then why are you here? Same as the rest of you pricks.... I'm an addict but now I'm addicted to being done and kicking it's ass. I don't need your approval to be here anymore than you need mine.

This site isn't about approval. It is about living free. You have to earn freedom. And you can't earn it by telling us about how hard your life has been WITH A DIP IN YOUR MOUTH?!!!

Click around in the Quit Groups. Every last one of those names is someone who as committed to living nic free. And they are fighting each day to keep their commitment to one another. Wonder why they aren't pumped about you writing you intro with a fucking dip in your face? Weird, huh?

You know what you have to do. Spit the dip out, flush the rest of your shit, quit making excuses and post roll. Save the "approval" and "prick" talk for some other site. All we want to hear is that you are quit. Your rage tells me that you're doing right. So, congrats. Stay strong and stay quit!!!

[JKEdwards]

Guys, he actually doesn't know how this works. Look at his post history. He didn't make it very far last time. Even then he would miss a couple days.

Matt. Here is the deal. You have to want it. The fact that you came here with a dip in makes that hard to believe. Quitting isn't as easy as saying I'm done. It's a fight. It's a struggle. One that is well worth it. Flush that shit right now. Drag your sorry ass to August. Post your day 1. Answer the 3 questions that Wt gave you in both your old group and the new one (Do not copy and paste them).

The only way this works is if people can take you for your word. You will have to build some trust and accountability. It is a long and bumpy road. I will support you if you are serious. But if you aren't serious about quitting, nicotine will crawl back in.