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Offline franklin77

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 11:18:00 AM »
Matt - A lot of these dudes on here are hardcore. I wasn't - I still am not - but they know what the hell they're talking about. We all agree on the basic precepts of the site - post roll, keep your word, repeat. I'm on day 93 - the verge of the "Hall of Fame," and I still love the memories of dipping - after a big meal, mowing the lawn, taking a deuce, and especially after turning on some Air Supply to get the wife in the mood and successfully "Making Love Out of Nothing At All." Nothing seemed better than those lippers. BUT, there is some things actually better than them - freedom, life, a wife, hope, kids, forgiveness, baseball, friends, love from God, etc. The list could go on - and does, it gets longer and longer for me every day. You need to find one thing to put on that list for now and START NOW. "_____ is more important to me than dipping." Then watch the list grow. People around here will help you through the suck that is embedded in such a statement.

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 10:54:00 AM »
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my wife found this place for me too. we were doing research for my June 1 quit date. she went to bed, i kept reading KTC and realized that the only thing that June 1 was going to give me was 14 more cans of death in my face, and the nic bitch another two weeks to worm her way deeper into my soul.

i flushed 1.5 cans down the toilet, and haven't looked back. day 3 (yesterday) was the toughest day for me so far. by light years. but it's my last day 3, and i only have to get through the next 24 hrs. honestly, flushing the dip was the hardest single moment of the past 72+ hrs.

matt, i don't know you yet, but someone into mma, boxing, and industrial shit isn't a pussy. stop acting like one, post roll, and be quit. i'll quit with you every day, and so will a ton of people here. another couple of days isn't going to make things any easier; it's only going to make it that much harder.

let me know if i can help...
Matt, this is the kind of attitude you need to be quit. Today is the day of salvation. You aren't going to dip enough between now and some future quit date to satisfy you for the rest of your life. You're an addict. You will never get enough nicotine to satisfy you. Ask yourself why you can't quit today. I guarantee you that every excuse you come up with is nothing more than your addiction talking. I had many quit dates that got pushed back because of "stressful times" or some other nonsense.

Quitting isn't easy, but it is so worth it. After 15 years of being a slave to the can, I've been nic free for 133 days. My only regret is that I didn't man up and quit years ago. Give me a shout if I can help.

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 10:14:00 AM »
Only one thing for you to do my friend, put your big boy panties on and QUIT!!!!
Post roll every day and keep your word. Sounds pretty simple don't it? Well it is and it isn't. If you are a man of your word you will keep your word to us and not dip for the 24 hrs in that day. The next day start all over. Do not even consider quitting forever. Forever is too much for the human brain to register. Do it one day at a time and before you know it you will have some quality quit under your belt.

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 08:53:00 AM »
We can't want it for you enough for it to work, nor can your wife, family or friends. You're a dipper and that is what you will be first, foremost and only as long as you allow the addiction to rule your life instead of ruling your addiction.

When you want it we'll be here...quit. We'll be the guys enjoying time with loved ones and friends instead of sneaking off to get a dip. We'll be the ones that don't have a panic attack at any mention of the big C. We'll be here waiting for you to join us and make our quits stronger.
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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 08:44:00 AM »
my wife found this place for me too. we were doing research for my June 1 quit date. she went to bed, i kept reading KTC and realized that the only thing that June 1 was going to give me was 14 more cans of death in my face, and the nic bitch another two weeks to worm her way deeper into my soul.

i flushed 1.5 cans down the toilet, and haven't looked back. day 3 (yesterday) was the toughest day for me so far. by light years. but it's my last day 3, and i only have to get through the next 24 hrs. honestly, flushing the dip was the hardest single moment of the past 72+ hrs.

matt, i don't know you yet, but someone into mma, boxing, and industrial shit isn't a pussy. stop acting like one, post roll, and be quit. i'll quit with you every day, and so will a ton of people here. another couple of days isn't going to make things any easier; it's only going to make it that much harder.

let me know if i can help...
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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 08:40:00 AM »
Read this...he didnt want to quit either...he loved it as much as you did as did all of us....We all have been there, but we have made the greatest decision ever to quit....Ask any quitter here that has been at it a little while....Life is much better now then it ever was when dipping......I dipped for 16 years 2 cans aday and I couldnt be happier that I am quit.....You need anything PM me

Jennny  Tom Kern's Story


Tom started chewing just as many of these men did. He was about 13 when he was helping out on his grandpa's farm, and someone gave him a chew. He continued chewing through high school in his varies sports (mainly baseball). Tom and I meet his sophomore year in college. I continually told him I didn't like his chewing, and he continually ignored me. Being in his dorm room was disgusting. I never put my pop can down while I was in there - you know why! Many cans were accidentally kicked over, so the carpet smelled horrible and was brown from all the stains. When he asked me to marry him, I said, "Yes, if you quit chewing." You know how long that lasted. He would just sneak it. As many of the writer's said, he would wait until I left. Or he would chew to and from work, at softball games, Boundary Waters trips, hunting and fishing trips. Anytime I wasn't there, I'm sure a dip was. Finally, I caught him. We had arguments about it. I am a teacher, and one year I received a video to show my fifth graders about a teenage boy who died from chewing tobacco related cancer. I took it home and showed Tom. He was unfazed. He thought he was a big strong football player. It wasn't going to happen to him. After our daughter was born, he said he would quit. After our next daughter was born, and our son, and our last daughter. After many debates, I told him I didn't want it around me, the kids, the house. I didn't want to see it, hear about it, or know about it. I didn't want that STUFF to be an example for our kids. They all looked up to their dad, and I didn't want them to think it was cool!

In October of 2003, Tom had a sore on the inside of his cheek that wasn't going away. He thought he had bitten his cheek, and it was infected. The doctor put him on antibiotics for 10 days. After that didn't work, he went to an ENT. This doctor looked at it and said, "I think it's cancer." One week later, we received the bad news - squamous cell carcinoma. Five days later, we saw the surgeon. He said it was Stage 1, it looked very small, and he thought surgery would be the end of it. We were so relieved that there wouldn't be any radiation or chemo. One week later (Nov. 28, 2003) Tom had surgery. I looked at some of the pictures on the website, and you could easily add Tom's picture to it. He was cut from the middle of his bottom lip, down his neck, over to the right, and up behind his right ear. He had a trachea because the tumor was in his jaw so he could only open his mouth about an inch, and they were afraid he might aspirate. When he came home 5 days later, our eight year old daughter cried because he looked so scary. This made Tom (my 235 pound football player) cry! (Tom DOESN'T cry!)

We thought we were done. However, the pathologist report on the lymph nodes was that one out of fourteen had come back with some cancer cells in it. The surgeon said it was Tom's choice, but he would recommend radiation. He started radiation on Jan. 5, 2004. It was not a normal treatment of radiation. It was a newer type that would do less damage to surrounding tissue, but instead of being radiated for a couple of minutes, it would take 30 minutes. Monday though Friday for 6 1/2 weeks. He got very sick, couldn't eat (he said food tasted like shards of glass), and dropped down to 175 pounds. After the treatments were over, he would feel lousy for a couple more weeks, then he would gradually start feeling better. This happened, until April. He started feeling bad again. He was very depressed and went on anti-depression medication.

May 1, 2004 was the beginning of the end. Our 15 year old daughter was going to prom, and we went to take pictures. Tom got out of the car and began throwing up. His vision was also being affected. What was going on! This began day after day of doctor's appointments and tests. Finally, at the end of May, we got our answer - the cancer was back with a vengeance. Chemo would give him a year or two. But I thought a year or two would give us time to look around at all our options, and medical science was always coming up with something new. At this point, Tom had a food tube put in because he couldn't get much down. Between the pre-op physical and surgery (3 days) he lost 30 pounds! The cancer was eating him alive. He was scheduled to go to the Mayo Clinic on June 7 (his 42nd birthday).

On June 3 he spiked a fever, and I took him to the hospital. They ambulanced him to Minneapolis. They found lesions in most of his internal organs. After 5 days of testing, they found that it was all squamous cell carcinoma. We brought our children to the hospital on June 10 to tell them that their dad was going to die. That has been one of the most painful times of my life. To see my children (ages 16, 12, 9, 7) touch their once robust, jolly father who lay lifeless in his hospital bed and know he was dying just killed me. Two days later, we were all around him as he took his last breath. Our oldest child threw herself on his legs and cried, "Don't go, Dad!"

Stage 1 cancer, 1.3 centimeters in size - and he was dead in less than seven months from the day he was diagnosed. He never thought it would happen to him. Someone once asked me what the chances of getting cancer from chewing tobacco was, and I replied that it didn't matter what the chances are if you are the one who gets it. You never know if it will be you.

As I continued to read some of the entries, the tears began to fall as I saw Tom's name. Some of the writer's said that Tom's story helped them to continue on their journey of being tobacco free. This would have meant so much to Tom, and means so much to me. Tom spoke to our 16 year old's health class right after he was done with radiation. He told them that he thought he was only hurting himself, but he realized that this addiction hurt anyone who has ever cared about him. He was a very selfless person, and it hurt him to know that he was putting all of us through hell. He wasn't thinking about himself, and all the pain and suffering he was going through. That was the kind of man he was.

Our eight year old daughter comes to me often at night crying. She asks why companies make things that kill people, and why did Dad have to chew. I don't have any answers for her. Tom felt so guilty about his choice to continue chewing. He couldn't believe the power of his addiction. Two weeks after his surgery he said, "You're not going to believe this, but I just had a craving for a chew!"

One year later, we are surviving, but not really loving life. Maybe someday we will get there, but for now I want to put my head on his barrel chest and have him wrap his arms around me and just hold me tight. I want to hear him tell the stories I heard him tell a hundred times, but still laughed until I cried every time I heard them. He was so full of life, until chewing tobacco took his life.

I am glad that so many people have been helped by this website. I only wish Tom had been aware of it. I want to thank you for letting me tell Tom's story, for e-mails I've received, for entries on Tom's caring bridge website, for financial support, and for your prayers. I wish you all success in staying tobacco free. God bless you.

Jenny Kern
http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 08:29:00 AM »
Quote from: mattatk81
So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.
how bout puttin on you big boy pants and pickin today? cause let me tell ya tomorow aint comin. hell you soound all pussy wipped and shit. you prolly dont even want to quit. your old lady draged your pussy ass in here. you made your only post ever prolly with a fatty in. and saterday you'll tell her it just dint work.

prove me rong cupcake.

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 05:59:00 AM »
Welcome Matt,

The hopelessly addicted thoughts are an addiction that has taken your mind hostage. Thousands have taken their lives back and broken the chains of addiction by a simple concept of

1. Post Roll- a promise to everyone here not to use for 1 day.
2. Honor that promise
3. Wake up tomorrow and go to step 1

The first 2-3 days are going to be intense, as nicotine leaves your body. Remember what it feels like, and know that you never have to go through a day 1,2, or 3 again.

Glad to be quit with you,

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Re: another FNG; new to this site;
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 05:31:00 AM »
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My wife found this page for me. Sounds like it could help, and I'm hoping it does. I am 30 years old, work on industrial equipment, love mma, boxing and I'm a gear head. Not offended easily but I have a short fuse, which is gonna make this even more fun. Anyone out there goin through this or that has I hope we can share a few kicks in the ass when I start actin like a pussy.
I want to quit but truth be told I love dippin. I love it after big meals, while I'm drivin workin, layin PIPE, or fishin, love copenhagen and coffee, skoal mint and root beer, hell I love it with fries and fry sauce. I am "hopelessly addicted" as Ledoux said.
Been wakin up and goin to bed with acid reflux for so long I cant remember a day without tums or rolaids, shoulda bought stock!
The other day the wife bought that Insanity workout video off tv, and I tried the fit test and was ashamed at how poorly I did. Wieght liftin and sports used to be my thing.... I have no stamina and my heart felt like it was going to explode... I cant do near what I used to and it's depressing, so it's time to give it up. It's gonna be rough since I drive all over for work and the guys at work dip and most of my customers and friends.
So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.
I love quitting. Do you want to know how? http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp

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another FNG; new to this site;
« on: May 19, 2011, 03:47:00 AM »
My wife found this page for me. Sounds like it could help, and I'm hoping it does. I am 30 years old, work on industrial equipment, love mma, boxing and I'm a gear head. Not offended easily but I have a short fuse, which is gonna make this even more fun. Anyone out there goin through this or that has I hope we can share a few kicks in the ass when I start actin like a pussy.
I want to quit but truth be told I love dippin. I love it after big meals, while I'm drivin workin, layin PIPE, or fishin, love copenhagen and coffee, skoal mint and root beer, hell I love it with fries and fry sauce. I am "hopelessly addicted" as Ledoux said.
Been wakin up and goin to bed with acid reflux for so long I cant remember a day without tums or rolaids, shoulda bought stock!
The other day the wife bought that Insanity workout video off tv, and I tried the fit test and was ashamed at how poorly I did. Wieght liftin and sports used to be my thing.... I have no stamina and my heart felt like it was going to explode... I cant do near what I used to and it's depressing, so it's time to give it up. It's gonna be rough since I drive all over for work and the guys at work dip and most of my customers and friends.
So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.