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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 01:27:00 PM »
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I did not sleep at all.  I'm not a particularly good sleeper, but last night was ridiculous.  The thermostat said it was 72 degrees, but I was sweating like a fatapotomus.  Tossing and turning, mind racing - not craving at all, but couldn't clear the old noggin. 

I think I need a new mattress.  Or 10,000 days of quit.
or get you one of those BJ things that John has been talking about.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Sleep is over rated anyways I am lucky to get 4-6 hours regular but when I bust ass all day in the yard or something of that nature I always sleep better. I sleep at an even 70 degrees in the house summer or winter. Find some kind of hobby that you enjoy that requires you to be physical and dig in to stay dip free :) I am an outdoor freak so working on the 4x4, keeping camp gear in line and shape, etc keeps me busy. Planning a kid free weekend with the wife camping on the lost coast in a few weeks.
P90X. You will sleep like a baby.

If you are not the working out type try walking for 30 minutes. Meditate.

If that does not work I used Tylenol PM and Nyquil early in my quit. Rest assured your sleep will return to normal. ( Actually I sleep better now than I ever did. )

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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 12:02:00 PM »
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I did not sleep at all.  I'm not a particularly good sleeper, but last night was ridiculous.  The thermostat said it was 72 degrees, but I was sweating like a fatapotomus.  Tossing and turning, mind racing - not craving at all, but couldn't clear the old noggin. 

I think I need a new mattress.  Or 10,000 days of quit.
or get you one of those BJ things that John has been talking about.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Sleep is over rated anyways I am lucky to get 4-6 hours regular but when I bust ass all day in the yard or something of that nature I always sleep better. I sleep at an even 70 degrees in the house summer or winter. Find some kind of hobby that you enjoy that requires you to be physical and dig in to stay dip free :) I am an outdoor freak so working on the 4x4, keeping camp gear in line and shape, etc keeps me busy. Planning a kid free weekend with the wife camping on the lost coast in a few weeks.
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »
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I did not sleep at all.  I'm not a particularly good sleeper, but last night was ridiculous.  The thermostat said it was 72 degrees, but I was sweating like a fatapotomus.  Tossing and turning, mind racing - not craving at all, but couldn't clear the old noggin. 

I think I need a new mattress.  Or 10,000 days of quit.
or get you one of those BJ things that John has been talking about.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 11:06:00 AM »
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I did not sleep at all. I'm not a particularly good sleeper, but last night was ridiculous. The thermostat said it was 72 degrees, but I was sweating like a fatapotomus. Tossing and turning, mind racing - not craving at all, but couldn't clear the old noggin.

I think I need a new mattress. Or 10,000 days of quit.
or get you one of those BJ things that John has been talking about.

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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2010, 10:11:00 AM »
I did not sleep at all. I'm not a particularly good sleeper, but last night was ridiculous. The thermostat said it was 72 degrees, but I was sweating like a fatapotomus. Tossing and turning, mind racing - not craving at all, but couldn't clear the old noggin.

I think I need a new mattress. Or 10,000 days of quit.
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2010, 10:02:00 AM »
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I couldn't agree more... you should post this in our quit group. I think there are a few people in there that could use this advise!

Keep fighting the good fight and I'll be right there with you!
I would, but I kind of want everybody to get off the topic - I'm happy just to get it out here.
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 01:08:00 AM »
I couldn't agree more... you should post this in our quit group. I think there are a few people in there that could use this advise!

Keep fighting the good fight and I'll be right there with you!
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2010, 11:55:00 AM »
Accountability -

We've got a shit ton of people in our October pre HOF class. Its hard to keep track of everyone. I don't know if this is the right way to feel about this, but I figure if the people you are quitting with start out with dishonesty and defensive anger, its hard to trust them going forward. If I can't trust them, how can I rely on them in this difficult quitting process? I want their quit to go well, and I hope it does, but I'm not going to put my faith in them to facilitate my quit. Like I said, there are a ton of people in our group and there are plenty of accountable, honest and dedicated people to lean on. I don't need to worry myself about someone that is shaky to start. I'm happy to be leaned on, but I won't lean on you, and I think if you are only taking from KTC, and you aren't giving back (or people don't need you to give back), you're setting yourself up for failure.

The annonimity of this site, to a certain extent, should facilitate openness and honesty. That in and of itself is cathartic and is assisting with my quit everyday. Like many of you, I was hiding my habit from everyone I know. Like many of you, the people I love the most are some of my worst triggers. It is helpful to be able to come here be honest about myself and my loved ones without having to adversely affect my relationships with them. If a person that I am quitting with cannot provide an honest answer in an annonymous setting, I definitely can't trust them. If I can't trust them, I can't rely on them to help me in my quit. And I won't.

So, in my humble noob opinion, guys that aren't being honest aren't getting the value out of this site. I'm not ranting and raving about it, because I don't intend to rely on them. If they want help, I'm all for helping, but I'm not going to reach out.

What I keep having to tell myself is something that the vets told me when I first posted my gay little introduction. Do this for yourself. I think this also applies on KTC. While we are relying on the support of our quit brothers (and sisters) and the force of will that accountability to them can provide, we are quitting on our own and for ourselves. I think with such a large Oct. group, we may see more than our fair share of cavers. I hope not. If any of our quits are reliant upon someone else's quit being successful, we are setting ourselves up to lose. Remember to do this for yourself first, and don't let anyone else's failure become your failure.

I quit FOR me today, and WITH the rest of my October quitters. If you need help, I'm here to help. I will reach out for help when I need it too, and I know I can rely on most of you.

Good luck today, gentlemen and gentleladies.
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 10:38:00 PM »
You will start to look at many things differently. Quitting has many benefits and being less off a doosh happens to be one of them.

Enjoy your family.. if you were like me you have some debts to pay. Get busy.

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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 10:01:00 AM »
So. Weekends. I keep hearing that they are more difficult. I don't know about you other COCKS, but because I was hiding my dipping from my family, I actually dipped less on the weekends.

I drive home from work now as fast as I can so that I am sooner around people that I am accountable to, now that my habit and my quit are out in the open. I'm accountable to you other COCKS, and I'm now accountable for my quit to my wife.

I think maybe if we all treat our family like we do our quit brothers on KTC from an accountability perspective, maybe that makes weekends easier?

Just throwing it out there in case it helps. 'arse'
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2010, 01:08:00 PM »
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Last time I tried quitting, I used the herbal Hooch. It tasted fine, everything went well. I got the variety pack, in fact. I was most fond of the mint, I would say. The straight was a little bicurious, I think, and the wintergreen tasted too much like Skoal Wintergreen, which made me say to myself, "god I hate Skoal Wintergreen", and crave even harder for some straight. I've been known to throw out a full can of Wintergreen purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight. The cayenne pepper flavored hooch was not my cup o tea. The Cherry had the same effect that the wintergreen had, as I have also been known to throw out full cans of Berry and Cherry Skoal purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight.

At any rate, by the end of the second month, I was left with a half a can of wintergreen, a full can of cherry, and a half a can of the straight hooch. Using any of these options actually made me crave the real stuff harder. Long story short, I caved. So, from my personal perspective, I think using the herbal stuff, in the end, made it harder for me to keep my quit going. However, I think it was very helpful for the first few days.

This time around, I've been chewing a shitload of gum, deep breathing, and reading this website. I tossed all of the herbal stuff. I don't want anything prematurely reminding me of dipping when I can just wait 6 minutes for my next crave.

Hopefully this is helpful to someone. I'm sure the herbal stuff works better for some than others -
I actually have been using the smokey mountain wintergreen. I have found that it works for me, coming from Copenhagen, the wintergreen is so much different that it doesnt "remind" me of the Cope. But it also keeps that oral fixation under control.

But like you said... works for some better than others.

Glad to hear you are still quit!
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2010, 10:18:00 AM »
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Last time I tried quitting, I used the herbal Hooch. It tasted fine, everything went well. I got the variety pack, in fact. I was most fond of the mint, I would say. The straight was a little bicurious, I think, and the wintergreen tasted too much like Skoal Wintergreen, which made me say to myself, "god I hate Skoal Wintergreen", and crave even harder for some straight. I've been known to throw out a full can of Wintergreen purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight. The cayenne pepper flavored hooch was not my cup o tea. The Cherry had the same effect that the wintergreen had, as I have also been known to throw out full cans of Berry and Cherry Skoal purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight.

At any rate, by the end of the second month, I was left with a half a can of wintergreen, a full can of cherry, and a half a can of the straight hooch. Using any of these options actually made me crave the real stuff harder. Long story short, I caved. So, from my personal perspective, I think using the herbal stuff, in the end, made it harder for me to keep my quit going. However, I think it was very helpful for the first few days.

This time around, I've been chewing a shitload of gum, deep breathing, and reading this website. I tossed all of the herbal stuff. I don't want anything prematurely reminding me of dipping when I can just wait 6 minutes for my next crave.

Hopefully this is helpful to someone. I'm sure the herbal stuff works better for some than others -
I love it that you looked at what was wrong and came up with a new plan that obviously includes this site. Keep it up.

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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 10:15:00 AM »
Last time I tried quitting, I used the herbal Hooch. It tasted fine, everything went well. I got the variety pack, in fact. I was most fond of the mint, I would say. The straight was a little bicurious, I think, and the wintergreen tasted too much like Skoal Wintergreen, which made me say to myself, "god I hate Skoal Wintergreen", and crave even harder for some straight. I've been known to throw out a full can of Wintergreen purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight. The cayenne pepper flavored hooch was not my cup o tea. The Cherry had the same effect that the wintergreen had, as I have also been known to throw out full cans of Berry and Cherry Skoal purchased in a pinch when I finally came across a place with straight.

At any rate, by the end of the second month, I was left with a half a can of wintergreen, a full can of cherry, and a half a can of the straight hooch. Using any of these options actually made me crave the real stuff harder. Long story short, I caved. So, from my personal perspective, I think using the herbal stuff, in the end, made it harder for me to keep my quit going. However, I think it was very helpful for the first few days.

This time around, I've been chewing a shitload of gum, deep breathing, and reading this website. I tossed all of the herbal stuff. I don't want anything prematurely reminding me of dipping when I can just wait 6 minutes for my next crave.

Hopefully this is helpful to someone. I'm sure the herbal stuff works better for some than others -
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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 07:27:00 AM »
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Last dip was yesterday. Can emptied, no new ones purchased.
very nice.....post roll, read, get involved and get after it.

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Re: I quit again for the last time
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 11:26:00 PM »
Last dip was yesterday. Can emptied, no new ones purchased.
"So if EVERYTHING was a trigger then nothing is really a 'trigger'" - MikeA


"panting like a fatopotomus" - Greg5280

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