Came to join the party - day 18 for me...

[Grizzly25]

Hey Steve,

Respect.

I hear ya'.

I will tell you that some of my early tools for quitting are to prove to other people that I can quit.

You know - you tell people you're quitting and they're like 'yeah... right... you're gonna quit... we'll see...' because they're dippers/smokers themselves and they know how many times they failed.

So - I do kind of adopt a mind set of 'I'll show you...' - but yes, a long term quit is foreign to me - I'll give you that.

I will say I came to this site when I was 18 days in and was really in cruise control then things started to get tough and i learned to lean on the site and the group.

I didnt come into it saying how people were doubting me....
I re-read the earlier posts and in my opinion they were accurate, not that anyone was or is doubting you at all!

I think you came to this site to finally be like all the rest of us QUIT not stopped! This is the best place for that and you will get a ton of support!

PM me if you need any further explaination or if you would like some numbers to help increase your accountability.

[Charles Stubbs]

Hey Steve,

Respect.

I hear ya'.

I will tell you that some of my early tools for quitting are to prove to other people that I can quit.

You know - you tell people you're quitting and they're like 'yeah... right... you're gonna quit... we'll see...' because they're dippers/smokers themselves and they know how many times they failed.

So - I do kind of adopt a mind set of 'I'll show you...' - but yes, a long term quit is foreign to me - I'll give you that.

[steve1357]

Yeah - I know you guys don't think I can do it.

Quitting tobacco is a mindf*ck. I mean before your quit date you're so determined. But on the very day of your quit all these reasons flood into your head on why dipping isn't such a big deal. It's like a spoiled kid who wants his way no matter what. The reasons to start back up seem so legitimate. I mean life is short, right? Then you realize YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GONE A DAY AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BUYING A CAN! A part of you has to step back in your head and recognize the person the day before your quit date - the person who was so determined. That's the mindf*ck. That's the addicition.

I am quitting - I'm not testing the waters. Everytime I crave I engage my quit voice that says, 'no... you're done.'

Generally speaking I cope best by staying busy. Sitting in front of the tube and agonizing over a crave is about the worst thing you can do. You have to take on a project - at home, at work - stay busy. Even when I'm busy the craves creep in. That's when the mental battle ensues.

That's fine - doubt me. I'll be laughing it up when I'm on day 100.

I think you can quit Charlie; hell I know you can.

I reread your first post and the comments from others, and it does not look like anyone here is doubting you. I am not sure why you have the "me against the world" mindset, but I assure you that everyone here wants you to be quit.

Here's the thing Chuck, you don't know shit about quitting. You know a lot about stopping, but quitting is a foreign language to you. You know so little about quitting, you even joined an online support group.

This is not meant to be an insult. These are just facts. And I was just as clueless about quitting as you are, as was everyone else when they first started. Take our advice, be active here, and continue learning. 19 days is awesome, but as you know quitting is an ongoing battle.

PM me if you need anything.

Steve

[Charles Stubbs]

Yeah - I know you guys don't think I can do it.

Quitting tobacco is a mindf*ck. I mean before your quit date you're so determined. But on the very day of your quit all these reasons flood into your head on why dipping isn't such a big deal. It's like a spoiled kid who wants his way no matter what. The reasons to start back up seem so legitimate. I mean life is short, right? Then you realize YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GONE A DAY AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BUYING A CAN! A part of you has to step back in your head and recognize the person the day before your quit date - the person who was so determined. That's the mindf*ck. That's the addicition.

I am quitting - I'm not testing the waters. Everytime I crave I engage my quit voice that says, 'no... you're done.'

Generally speaking I cope best by staying busy. Sitting in front of the tube and agonizing over a crave is about the worst thing you can do. You have to take on a project - at home, at work - stay busy. Even when I'm busy the craves creep in. That's when the mental battle ensues.

That's fine - doubt me. I'll be laughing it up when I'm on day 100.

[30isEnuff]

Don't mean to be mean...but you better look at this link and figure out "who" you are!

makeupurmind

[eric71]

Hi - sent my first roll call today.

I quit back on 06/27.  I found this site and thought it'd be a good way to keep me accountable.

Five years ago I was a smoker and I put that down after getting pneumonia twice in 3 months. 

I had a good quit going for about 8 months. 
But I was out fishing one day and took a pinch of my brothers Copenhagen.
I was on my way.

So - for the last 3 to 4 years I've been dipping about a can a day of Skoal Mint pouches.

When I started it was an occasional deal - I took snuff breaks throughout the day.  But in the end I pretty much kept a pouch in my cheek all day, every day. 

I didn't get anything out of it any more except bad breath that kept me from looking people in the eye when i talked to them (i hate that)

I'm in a stressful job but it let up just enough that I had a good opening - I took it and I'm on day 18.

I've quit before and, in one sense, I already know all the logic my brain kicks out when it wants to give in and have a dip.

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It's like this:
days 1 thru 5 - my brain says, "you didn't really want to do this..." or "you can't do this right now, you have too much going on..."

Days 5 thru 10 - "you've got thru the worst of this - it wasn't so bad, you can pick back up now and quit later....'

Day 10 thru 15  - At this point my gums start looking better, my breath is better, I feel better.  I feel like tobacco isn't gonna kill me.  It seems like the danger is over because my gums no longer ache.  I tell myself I can start back up again and quit another time - because really, quitting for three weeks was pretty easy and my health wasn't as bad as I thought.
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I know all the tactics my brain will tell me to get me back on the tobacco wagon.


I've had vain attempts at quitting in the last 4 years. 

For me, quitting because 'it's bad for me...' or '...because I need to quit...' never worked.  I had to get sick of this crap and say, 'this sh*t doesn't do anything for me any more... it's an expensive and embarrassing habit...' - only then do I usually commit to a real quit.

No nicotine replacement for me - cold turkey.

The cravings are up and down - last week I thought i was thru the worst of it - but I've been having craves in the afternoon the last couple of days.  The worst WD symptom has been the insomnia.  I get about 2 to 3 hours of sleep a night unless I use some kind of medication to sleep (which I don't like to do often)

Gotta stand strong.  I know if I give in and dip I won't put it back down for a LOOONG time. 

I'm an addict, if I relapse I won't give in 'for a day or two' or a 'week' and then restart my quit.  If I give in it might be years before I try to quit again. 

When I embrace my tobacco, I love the stuff.

Roll Call looks great 18 days alone in your quit shows you have got what it takes and that you are serious about your quit. I suggest that you read all you can in the words of wisdom and HOF speeches. For your family or those you are close to have them read the spousal support. We are very serious about posting roll, It is our promise to not use nicotine for that day. All of us can remain nicotine free for 1 day and you add a promise to that and you are set. I would encourage you to take every opportunity to get acquainted with your fellow quitters and start getting #'s to call when you get hit by a crave. The only thing that I saw in your post that I had any argument with is that you called your nicotine consumption a expensive and embarrassing habit. NICOTINE USE IS A ADDICTION!! I'm sure that you know that but I just wanted to point out that we don't use the word habit because it makes it sound like it is something that can be changed by not doing it for a few weeks and you have gotten rid of that annoying little distraction in your life. The Addiction is with us for life, and that is really hard to accept!
Check your Inbox (1) upper right of the page.

What WT said.

Welcome to Oct12 Charles we are glad to have you aboard. Honor roll call and contribute where and when you can. Read, read, and read some more, this site and the links have gotten me and others in our group through some intense cravings and the support is just flat out top notch.

You've been offered the Nicotine kool aid by your mind, how about tapping some of the real shit right here on the site. Buy-in, drink-up, one day at a time is how we roll 'round here.

Glad you signed up and proud to be quit w/you today, see you at roll in the AM.

Need anything in the meantime, shoot me a PM

QLAFM!

[Wt57]

Hi - sent my first roll call today.

I quit back on 06/27. I found this site and thought it'd be a good way to keep me accountable.

Five years ago I was a smoker and I put that down after getting pneumonia twice in 3 months.

I had a good quit going for about 8 months.
But I was out fishing one day and took a pinch of my brothers Copenhagen.
I was on my way.

So - for the last 3 to 4 years I've been dipping about a can a day of Skoal Mint pouches.

When I started it was an occasional deal - I took snuff breaks throughout the day. But in the end I pretty much kept a pouch in my cheek all day, every day.

I didn't get anything out of it any more except bad breath that kept me from looking people in the eye when i talked to them (i hate that)

I'm in a stressful job but it let up just enough that I had a good opening - I took it and I'm on day 18.

I've quit before and, in one sense, I already know all the logic my brain kicks out when it wants to give in and have a dip.

------------------------------
It's like this:
days 1 thru 5 - my brain says, "you didn't really want to do this..." or "you can't do this right now, you have too much going on..."

Days 5 thru 10 - "you've got thru the worst of this - it wasn't so bad, you can pick back up now and quit later....'

Day 10 thru 15 - At this point my gums start looking better, my breath is better, I feel better. I feel like tobacco isn't gonna kill me. It seems like the danger is over because my gums no longer ache. I tell myself I can start back up again and quit another time - because really, quitting for three weeks was pretty easy and my health wasn't as bad as I thought.
------------------------------

I know all the tactics my brain will tell me to get me back on the tobacco wagon.


I've had vain attempts at quitting in the last 4 years.

For me, quitting because 'it's bad for me...' or '...because I need to quit...' never worked. I had to get sick of this crap and say, 'this sh*t doesn't do anything for me any more... it's an expensive and embarrassing habit...' - only then do I usually commit to a real quit.

No nicotine replacement for me - cold turkey.

The cravings are up and down - last week I thought i was thru the worst of it - but I've been having craves in the afternoon the last couple of days. The worst WD symptom has been the insomnia. I get about 2 to 3 hours of sleep a night unless I use some kind of medication to sleep (which I don't like to do often)

Gotta stand strong. I know if I give in and dip I won't put it back down for a LOOONG time.

I'm an addict, if I relapse I won't give in 'for a day or two' or a 'week' and then restart my quit. If I give in it might be years before I try to quit again.

When I embrace my tobacco, I love the stuff.

Roll Call looks great 18 days alone in your quit shows you have got what it takes and that you are serious about your quit. I suggest that you read all you can in the words of wisdom and HOF speeches. For your family or those you are close to have them read the spousal support. We are very serious about posting roll, It is our promise to not use nicotine for that day. All of us can remain nicotine free for 1 day and you add a promise to that and you are set. I would encourage you to take every opportunity to get acquainted with your fellow quitters and start getting #'s to call when you get hit by a crave. The only thing that I saw in your post that I had any argument with is that you called your nicotine consumption a expensive and embarrassing habit. NICOTINE USE IS A ADDICTION!! I'm sure that you know that but I just wanted to point out that we don't use the word habit because it makes it sound like it is something that can be changed by not doing it for a few weeks and you have gotten rid of that annoying little distraction in your life. The Addiction is with us for life, and that is really hard to accept!
Check your Inbox (1) upper right of the page.

[Charles Stubbs]

Hi - sent my first roll call today.

I quit back on 06/27. I found this site and thought it'd be a good way to keep me accountable.

Five years ago I was a smoker and I put that down after getting pneumonia twice in 3 months.

I had a good quit going for about 8 months.
But I was out fishing one day and took a pinch of my brothers Copenhagen.
I was on my way.

So - for the last 3 to 4 years I've been dipping about a can a day of Skoal Mint pouches.

When I started it was an occasional deal - I took snuff breaks thru out the day. But in the end I pretty much kept a pouch in my cheek all day, every day.

I didn't get anything out of it any more except bad breath that kept me from looking people in the eye when i talked to them (i hate that)

I'm in a stressful job but it let up just enough that I had a good opening - I took it and I'm on day 18.

I've quit before and, in one sense, I already know all the logic my brain kicks out when it wants to give in and have a dip.

------------------------------
It's like this:
days 1 thru 5 - my brain says, "you didn't really want to do this..." or "you can't do this right now, you have too much going on..."

Days 5 thru 10 - "you've got thru the worst of this - it wasn't so bad, you can pick back up now and quit later....'

Day 10 thru 15 - At this point my gums start looking better, my breath is better, I feel better. I feel like tobacco isn't gonna kill me. It seems like the danger is over because my gums no longer ache. I tell myself I can start back up again and quit another time - because really, quitting for three weeks was pretty easy and my health wasn't as bad as I thought.
------------------------------

I know all the tactics my brain will tell me to get me back on the tobacco wagon.


I've had vain attempts at quitting in the last 4 years.

For me, quitting because 'it's bad for me...' or '...because I need to quit...' never worked. I had to get sick of this crap and say, 'this sh*t doesn't do anything for me any more... it's an expensive and embarrasing habit...' - only then do I usually commit to a real quit.

No nicotine replacement for me - cold turkey.

The cravings are up and down - last week I thought i was thru the worst of it - but I've been having craves in the afternoon the last couple of days. The worst WD symptom has been the insomnia. I get about 2 to 3 hours of sleep a night unless I use some kind of medication to sleep (which I don't like to do often)

Gotta stand strong. I know if I give in and dip I won't put it back down for a LOOONG time.

I'm an addict, if I relapse I won't give in 'for a day or two' or a 'week' and then restart my quit. If I give in it might be years before I try to quit again.

When I embrace my tobacco, I love the stuff.