I want to quit before year 7 of this shit

[robbie]

I just found an unused package of nicotine gum in the closet, undoubtedly from one of my futile attempts to quit dip in the last couple of years.  With a small twinge of regret, I toss it into the trash.  Nicorette was one of my ninja coping mechanism on vacations and such.

Addiction is hell.

Glad to hear you made the right decision! I had a similar occurrence...

On my Day 4 I was emptying both trash cans in the bathroom and in my room. I found 5 empty cans of Skoal Wintergreen. The emotion that came there-after was shame and guilt for hiding this from my friends and family for nearly 9 years. It hit me hard, nearly brought me to tears, I felt guilty for kidding myself that this was even remotely safe and for destroying my body and mind.

I am going on my 8th day and I have never felt more guilt-free in the time I was dipping! Thanks to all the bad ass quitters for the inspiration and support! Staying Quit!

Awesome post guys!! Rob, Hipster, Keep it up gentlemen. Dont know now, but.............. YOU ARE WINNING!!!!!!!

Hippy you are 1 bad ass m-fucker Thats some hard core shit to toss that nic candy. No one would have known if you would have taken a little snack. You have my respect I am proud to QLF w you and may quitters. I am quit and so can you...

robbie day 30

[Dlee3]

Checking in on day 22!

These are the kinds of crazy ass thoughts that float past my consciousness, pretty much every day:

"Its been x days. One little pinch. You deserve it."

"You've proven your mastery over nicotine. Why not have a pinch?"

"Day x! All done, time to get a can!"

Probably the most ridiculous,

"Your last tin was Cope, so you really aren't finished until you have one last pinch of Kodiak."

Actually, that last one bugs me way more than it should. Anyways, these thoughts come and go.

I'll be honest with you all. I'm a gigantic coward, and that is why I haven't looked at any of the "cancer pics" on the Net yet. I'm sort of saving that experience for the really desperate craves. Luckily, I'm also a vain bastard, which drives my quit forward in the mean time -- healthy is a better look overall. I don't know, but perhaps it is my vanity in general that makes me want to stay quit (how proud can you be when a nasty weed runs your life?)

Next time I'll post about some of the epiphanies I've been having about my addictive behavior in general... it is kind of freaking me out, and I'm wondering if anybody has had similar experiences, but I'm too tired to write it all out at the moment,

I LOVE epiphanies. They mean nothing most of the time, but quitters need them. If I'm reading your brain fart correctly, you are one of those introspective quitters that tries to find meaning, purpose, and direction out of those epiphanies. (That's the basic definition of a brain fart.) :)

Right there with you, dude. I have done my damnedest to equate everything to quitting this shit. Read my intro. The evidence is there.

I have one question. When quitting dip, why in the hell is vanity a bad thing? Dip is the antithesis of vanity. Use vanity, dude. Use unreasonable cockiness. Hell, I did it the other day just to change my damn attitude.

There was a question in April group that said something like: "Now that you've quit dip, is there anything else you need to quit doing?"

My roll post: "I need to quit being awesome."

I did not actually believe that, but it changed my daily attitude. I laughed about that off and on for hours (and yes, I just laughed again.)

I would absolutely read all of your epiphanies and vain posts if you remain quit. I actually look forward to you adding those daily posts into your intro thread. Please? :)

[hippy]

Checking in on day 22!

These are the kinds of crazy ass thoughts that float past my consciousness, pretty much every day:

"Its been x days. One little pinch. You deserve it."

"You've proven your mastery over nicotine. Why not have a pinch?"

"Day x! All done, time to get a can!"

Probably the most ridiculous,

"Your last tin was Cope, so you really aren't finished until you have one last pinch of Kodiak."

Actually, that last one bugs me way more than it should. Anyways, these thoughts come and go.

I'll be honest with you all. I'm a gigantic coward, and that is why I haven't looked at any of the "cancer pics" on the Net yet. I'm sort of saving that experience for the really desperate craves. Luckily, I'm also a vain bastard, which drives my quit forward in the mean time -- healthy is a better look overall. I don't know, but perhaps it is my vanity in general that makes me want to stay quit (how proud can you be when a nasty weed runs your life?)

Next time I'll post about some of the epiphanies I've been having about my addictive behavior in general... it is kind of freaking me out, and I'm wondering if anybody has had similar experiences, but I'm too tired to write it all out at the moment,

[Its_Got2Happen]

I just found an unused package of nicotine gum in the closet, undoubtedly from one of my futile attempts to quit dip in the last couple of years.  With a small twinge of regret, I toss it into the trash.  Nicorette was one of my ninja coping mechanism on vacations and such.

Addiction is hell.

Glad to hear you made the right decision! I had a similar occurrence...

On my Day 4 I was emptying both trash cans in the bathroom and in my room. I found 5 empty cans of Skoal Wintergreen. The emotion that came there-after was shame and guilt for hiding this from my friends and family for nearly 9 years. It hit me hard, nearly brought me to tears, I felt guilty for kidding myself that this was even remotely safe and for destroying my body and mind.

I am going on my 8th day and I have never felt more guilt-free in the time I was dipping! Thanks to all the bad ass quitters for the inspiration and support! Staying Quit!

Awesome post guys!! Rob, Hipster, Keep it up gentlemen. Dont know now, but.............. YOU ARE WINNING!!!!!!!

[Rob1985]

I just found an unused package of nicotine gum in the closet, undoubtedly from one of my futile attempts to quit dip in the last couple of years.  With a small twinge of regret, I toss it into the trash.  Nicorette was one of my ninja coping mechanism on vacations and such.

Addiction is hell.

Glad to hear you made the right decision! I had a similar occurrence...

On my Day 4 I was emptying both trash cans in the bathroom and in my room. I found 5 empty cans of Skoal Wintergreen. The emotion that came there-after was shame and guilt for hiding this from my friends and family for nearly 9 years. It hit me hard, nearly brought me to tears, I felt guilty for kidding myself that this was even remotely safe and for destroying my body and mind.

I am going on my 8th day and I have never felt more guilt-free in the time I was dipping! Thanks to all the bad ass quitters for the inspiration and support! Staying Quit!

[hippy]

I just found an unused package of nicotine gum in the closet, undoubtedly from one of my futile attempts to quit dip in the last couple of years. With a small twinge of regret, I toss it into the trash. Nicorette was one of my ninja coping mechanism on vacations and such.

Addiction is hell.

[Radman]

Well boys and girls,

I must be passing a milestone in my recovery.  On the way home from work this evening, I got rear-ended on the freeway.  I'm physically fine, but the driver's side rear quarter panel is effed up pretty bad.  Anyways, I eventually managed to limp home, and I just got off the phone with the insurance company. 

I am an excellent driver and this is the first real accident I've ever been in.  As you might imagine, this is just the sort of situation where it would be past high time for a dip or three of Kodiak.  But, guess what?  I don't want to, and I'm not gonna!  (Full disclosure, I poured myself a stiff drink when I walked through the door, not good for nic recovery, but what the hell!)

That is awesome hippy, not that you got into the accident but that you recognized the fact that putting that shit in your pie hole wasn't gonna undo or change what has happened. Your better for it and I believe your quit is stronger because of it. Proud as hell brother QLF today.

It's liberating, ain't it?

I feel your pain, bro. We admitted my dad to hospital via ER Sunday night. Then some dude swerved right into me Tuesday on the way to work. Like you, I'm a pretty safe driver. My job depends on my driving record. Haven't had a ticket since 92 or 93 and haven't been in a wreck in about 17 years, best I can figure. That one was an I-285 pileup that was beyond my control, too. Anyway, the guy this week trashed bot doors on the passenger side of my truck. Swapped some texts with KTC folks afterwards checking on my status. We all here agree that nicotine will not fix anything in this situation.

Bad week, but nic won't make it any better. Quit on, my friend.

[hippy]

There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 1 Corinthians 10:13

[jaynellie]

Well boys and girls,

I must be passing a milestone in my recovery. On the way home from work this evening, I got rear-ended on the freeway. I'm physically fine, but the driver's side rear quarter panel is effed up pretty bad. Anyways, I eventually managed to limp home, and I just got off the phone with the insurance company.

I am an excellent driver and this is the first real accident I've ever been in. As you might imagine, this is just the sort of situation where it would be past high time for a dip or three of Kodiak. But, guess what? I don't want to, and I'm not gonna! (Full disclosure, I poured myself a stiff drink when I walked through the door, not good for nic recovery, but what the hell!)

That is awesome hippy, not that you got into the accident but that you recognized the fact that putting that shit in your pie hole wasn't gonna undo or change what has happened. Your better for it and I believe your quit is stronger because of it. Proud as hell brother QLF today.

[hippy]

Well boys and girls,

I must be passing a milestone in my recovery. On the way home from work this evening, I got rear-ended on the freeway. I'm physically fine, but the driver's side rear quarter panel is effed up pretty bad. Anyways, I eventually managed to limp home, and I just got off the phone with the insurance company.

I am an excellent driver and this is the first real accident I've ever been in. As you might imagine, this is just the sort of situation where it would be past high time for a dip or three of Kodiak. But, guess what? I don't want to, and I'm not gonna! (Full disclosure, I poured myself a stiff drink when I walked through the door, not good for nic recovery, but what the hell!)

[ZTravis]

Way to be hippy!!! mad props big dog!!!! B)

[Radman]

I'm feeling great today.  I felt great yesterday, too!  Physically, because I'm not hurting anymore, and mentally because of what I've accomplished so far.  This has been the longest week of my life I think.

The last fit I had was the evening of Day 6.  The area of my gums behind the last molars of my upper jaw were hurting bad, I guess that was micro-abrasions or whatever healing up, but the weird thing was that I didn't ever leave my dip back there. 

To anybody reading this who is still on the other side of the initial 72 hour hump.  Do it!  The struggle is worth it!

Nice hippy! 'clap'

Yes..... very nice.

[Mthomas3824]

I'm feeling great today.  I felt great yesterday, too!  Physically, because I'm not hurting anymore, and mentally because of what I've accomplished so far.  This has been the longest week of my life I think.

The last fit I had was the evening of Day 6.  The area of my gums behind the last molars of my upper jaw were hurting bad, I guess that was micro-abrasions or whatever healing up, but the weird thing was that I didn't ever leave my dip back there. 

To anybody reading this who is still on the other side of the initial 72 hour hump.  Do it!  The struggle is worth it!

Nice hippy! 'clap'

[hippy]

I'm feeling great today. I felt great yesterday, too! Physically, because I'm not hurting anymore, and mentally because of what I've accomplished so far. This has been the longest week of my life I think.

The last fit I had was the evening of Day 6. The area of my gums behind the last molars of my upper jaw were hurting bad, I guess that was micro-abrasions or whatever healing up, but the weird thing was that I didn't ever leave my dip back there.

To anybody reading this who is still on the other side of the initial 72 hour hump. Do it! The struggle is worth it!

[Souliman]

Day 5 comes to a close. I came too damn near to caving this morning.

The sarcastic, smug voice of addiction from days 1-3, the voice that had slyly proffered "just one last dip for old time's sake", had suddenly developed into an outraged, incessant, bellowing thug by yesterday evening (day 4). I was scared, so I went to sleep. When I woke up the next morning, it was still there in the same spot at the foot of my bed, yelling, threatening and fulminating. I guess you could call it a good cop/bad cop routine.

So I was basically flipping out.

Anyways, I wouldn't say I quit the dip on a lark, but I didn't exactly plan this shit out either. I just became disgusted with myself, ended up surfing to this site and its advocacy of a decisive, cold turkey approach, and dived right in. So I had no fake stuff at hand.

So now, I was in the thick of a crave, I couldn't just place an order for some on the Internet and sit back and relax. So, I start dialing up local smoke shops, and seeing if they carry Smokey Mountain or something similar. These places are typically sleazy, and run by sleazy people. After all, they don't just sell pipe tobacco and cigarettes, but also drug paraphernalia, "bath salts", and the like. They must have thought I was insane: "I'm looking for herbal dip. Fake snuff. Fake dip. No, not like Skoal. Made out of mint. No, not shisha, no tobacco, mint!!"

Finally, I found a smoke shop that carried fake stuff about 30 miles away. So I fought through 45 minutes of traffic to go get some. They had 2 kinds, Oregon Mint and Smokey Mountain. I've tried Oregon Mint before and didn't get a lot out of it, so I got some cans of Smokey Mountain, 3 Wintergreen and 1 "Arctic Mint". I actually like Arctic Mint more, even though I was a Kodiak person, I think it's because their Wintergreen is supposed to be more like Skoal or Grizzly?

I've been dipping this fake stuff since I came home, and that combined with an hard workout seems to have calmed me down quite a bit. Around 10 AM today I would have wagered 50/50 on not making it through the day. But now I feel good again about pledging another day tobacco free.

Also, I drank beer last night, and there is something about it that makes me want to dip the next day, not just during the drinking. So, I'm not going to drink much beer for a while.

Hipster I applaud your effort in hunting down the fake. Use whatever you can to get through the craves. Anything but cancer candy in that pie hole.

You might want to hold off on having a few beers for a bit if you know its a trigger. It seems to be a common theme around here that alcohol starts the craves for some folks.

Well done on getting through the day. Fight.