Hallo!

[Kubrick]

I used to get the gum for all day meetings, family gatherings, flights and other places where putting a Copenhagen in my lip would not have been socially acceptable.

Freedom from nicotine is so sweet. I don't miss always having to make sure I had a supply of chew, gum, etc for whatever I was doing.

Until you make the choice to throw that crap out and quit, you're nothing but a slave.

[Skoal Monster]

You can lead a horse to water..... When AA tells alcoholics to switch to wine coolers to quit drinking . Your plan will work.
When  drug counselors agree that quitting heroin is a matter of staying in withdrawal and using less heroin . Your plan will work.
When using nicotine to quit nicotine works, your plan will work.

That dog won't hunt. Don't believe me ?  Do the math. Your patch has substantially less nicotine than chew. Your in withdrawal now, because of that. Proper use of the patch means your going to stay in withdrawal for weeks. 3 days is easier than weeks last I checked. More than 90% of all successful long term quits are cold turkey. (American cancer society)  That means the success rate of the patch blows . I think the ten percent probably succeeded in spite of the patch not because of it. Did you know there has never been a study showing any effectiveness of using the patch to quit dipping?  All your doing is making it harder. When your ready let's quit.

When you agree to not use nicotine, to quit using nicotine. Our plan will work

I think I read somewhere that 7% of all patch users quit successfully with it. It also said that if you are trying the patch for a second time that the success rate is less than 1%.

I heard there's a bunch of suits in Big Pharmacy laughing their asses off at all the dumbasses willing to spend fifty bucks on a twenty-five cent box of gum so they can slowly feed their addiction and torture themselves with constant withdrawal.

(ryano34 @ Nov 4, 2009, 3:47 pm)
Very interesting article I found today.....

Nicotine Warning for Cold Turkey Quitters


Roughly 80-90% of all new quitters attempt to quit cold turkey (abrupt nicotine cessation). If you are one of them then you need to know that many highly respected websites contain advertisements, quitting instructions and articles created by the pharmaceutical industry for the purpose of getting you to purchase nicotine (which they have renamed medicine) and use it (which they have renamed therapy). Their super slick marketing is designed to make you quickly believe that you have very little chance of succeeding unless you rush-out and purchase nicotine weaning products such as the nicotine patch, nicotine gum or nicotine lozenge and immediately put nicotine back into your bloodstream. They do not want you to believe in "you." They do not want you to reach for education, understanding, new skills and support, as honest tools that make dreams come true at rates that make those achieved by their weaning products laughable.

Sadly, very few sites are sharing useful, recent and honest NRT data with quitters. Those with a financial stake must keep secret the fact that a March 2003 NRT study review by paid pharmaceutical industry consultants combined and averaged all seven over-the-counter nicotine patch and gum studies and found that 93% of those who "believed" and "trusted" in the nicotine weaning message failed and relapsed to smoking nicotine within six months ( link to full text of March, 2003 study ). Nor will those receiving donations or profits for allowing nicotine to be marketed at their websites warn you that too many among the 7% who do quit smoking for six months have instead become permanent chemical captives to the very product they purchased to help them break nicotine's grip upon their mind. Nor will they tell you that if you have previously tried and failed while using nicotine weaning products that, according to two nicotine patch recycling studies, your odds of relapse during a second attempt may be as high as 100%.

But most importantly, these sites continue to refuse to caution the 80-90% of new quitters who arrive having quit cold turkey, that if they have remained 100% nicotine free for 72 hours that their blood is now 100% nicotine-clean, 90% of nicotine's metabolites have passed through their urine, and that for them chemical withdrawal has peaked in intensity and is now beginning to gradually subside. Any nicotine use at this point constitutes chemical relapse that will require them to repeat nicotine detox all over again. This is the "Law of Addiction."

But take heart if you are quitting cold turkey. According to the American Cancer Society's Cancer Facts  Figures 2003 report, 91.2% of all successful long-term quitters are today quitting entirely on their own without using Zyban, Wellbutrin, hypnosis, acupuncture, magic herbs, and without toying with any gradual nicotine weaning products like the patch, gum, lozenge, spray, or inhaler.

You'd think that government researchers would be heavily engaged in studying "their" method of quitting and "their" secrets. You'd think that they'd be developing websites to service the cessation needs of the 80-90% of all new quitters who they know are today engaged in a cold turkey quitting experience. You'd think that their sites would have warnings to protect cold turkey quitters from pharmaceutical grade nicotine relapse. You'd think that government and major health non-profits would have lots of articles on how to take the mystery and cold out of quitting cold.

Sadly, it simply isn't happening. The pharmaceutical industry is making billions selling nicotine to nicotine addicts, their sphere of influence extends beyond your wildest imagination and they know that the only way to continue to increase market share and profits is by continuing their campaign to destroy the credibility of earth's most productive means of quitting - abrupt nicotine cessation.

John R. Polito, Nicotine Cessation Educator

[Notdeadyet]

You can lead a horse to water..... When AA tells alcoholics to switch to wine coolers to quit drinking . Your plan will work.
When  drug counselors agree that quitting heroin is a matter of staying in withdrawal and using less heroin . Your plan will work.
When using nicotine to quit nicotine works, your plan will work.

That dog won't hunt. Don't believe me ?  Do the math. Your patch has substantially less nicotine than chew. Your in withdrawal now, because of that. Proper use of the patch means your going to stay in withdrawal for weeks. 3 days is easier than weeks last I checked. More than 90% of all successful long term quits are cold turkey. (American cancer society)  That means the success rate of the patch blows . I think the ten percent probably succeeded in spite of the patch not because of it. Did you know there has never been a study showing any effectiveness of using the patch to quit dipping?  All your doing is making it harder. When your ready let's quit.

When you agree to not use nicotine, to quit using nicotine. Our plan will work

I think I read somewhere that 7% of all patch users quit successfully with it. It also said that if you are trying the patch for a second time that the success rate is less than 1%.

I heard there's a bunch of suits in Big Pharmacy laughing their asses off at all the dumbasses willing to spend fifty bucks on a twenty-five cent box of gum so they can slowly feed their addiction and torture themselves with constant withdrawal.

[Arfy]

You can lead a horse to water..... When AA tells alcoholics to switch to wine coolers to quit drinking . Your plan will work.
When drug counselors agree that quitting heroin is a matter of staying in withdrawal and using less heroin . Your plan will work.
When using nicotine to quit nicotine works, your plan will work.

That dog won't hunt. Don't believe me ? Do the math. Your patch has substantially less nicotine than chew. Your in withdrawal now, because of that. Proper use of the patch means your going to stay in withdrawal for weeks. 3 days is easier than weeks last I checked. More than 90% of all successful long term quits are cold turkey. (American cancer society) That means the success rate of the patch blows . I think the ten percent probably succeeded in spite of the patch not because of it. Did you know there has never been a study showing any effectiveness of using the patch to quit dipping? All your doing is making it harder. When your ready let's quit.

When you agree to not use nicotine, to quit using nicotine. Our plan will work

I think I read somewhere that 7% of all patch users quit successfully with it. It also said that if you are trying the patch for a second time that the success rate is less than 1%.

[Skoal Monster]

You can lead a horse to water..... When AA tells alcoholics to switch to wine coolers to quit drinking . Your plan will work.
When drug counselors agree that quitting heroin is a matter of staying in withdrawal and using less heroin . Your plan will work.
When using nicotine to quit nicotine works, your plan will work.

That dog won't hunt. Don't believe me ? Do the math. Your patch has substantially less nicotine than chew. Your in withdrawal now, because of that. Proper use of the patch means your going to stay in withdrawal for weeks. 3 days is easier than weeks last I checked. More than 90% of all successful long term quits are cold turkey. (American cancer society) That means the success rate of the patch blows . I think the ten percent probably succeeded in spite of the patch not because of it. Did you know there has never been a study showing any effectiveness of using the patch to quit dipping? All your doing is making it harder. When your ready let's quit.

When you agree to not use nicotine, to quit using nicotine. Our plan will work

[per034]

Looks like I was wrong about this site, chock full of tough guy assholes I see.

Somebody uses a different method and you basically tell them to fuck off.

I'll quit on my own terms, not the terms you want to push on me.

Welcome to my spam box bitches

Yes. There's lots of tough love in here. All of us here will support you 100% if you ONLY do one little thing.

1)No, not apologize. We don't care about that

QUIT THE NIC RIGHT NOW! You don't go into a AA meeting with a beer, and you don't bring your NIC patch into here! Get rid of the patch! Post Roll and keep your promise and I'll stand there proudly with you!!!!

I agree!! I will stick by you too if you QUIT NOW and start posting roll!!

Same goes here. I'll quit with you every day. I'll help you understand how the site works. I'll give you my phone number. I'll talk you down from a ledge if need be. I'll share my experiences and my journey to 136 days. Not very long is it? Just a drop in the bucket really... It's 136 days more than you have. You wanna quit? Then post roll in January 2013 right now. Day one. If you had read anything prior to posting, you would have known people were not going to accept that patch business. There are other sites for that - I could be wrong but KTC lite may be one. Maybe thats more your speed - if so then fine. More power to you. But that doesn't fly here. I said I could spot fradulent quitters - It's a specialty of mine. Prove me wrong.

I'll quit with you too. Just leave the nic behind.

[Morgan1]

Looks like I was wrong about this site, chock full of tough guy assholes I see.

Somebody uses a different method and you basically tell them to fuck off.

I'll quit on my own terms, not the terms you want to push on me.

Welcome to my spam box bitches

Yes. There's lots of tough love in here. All of us here will support you 100% if you ONLY do one little thing.

1)No, not apologize. We don't care about that

QUIT THE NIC RIGHT NOW! You don't go into a AA meeting with a beer, and you don't bring your NIC patch into here! Get rid of the patch! Post Roll and keep your promise and I'll stand there proudly with you!!!!

I agree!! I will stick by you too if you QUIT NOW and start posting roll!!

Same goes here. I'll quit with you every day. I'll help you understand how the site works. I'll give you my phone number. I'll talk you down from a ledge if need be. I'll share my experiences and my journey to 136 days. Not very long is it? Just a drop in the bucket really... It's 136 days more than you have. You wanna quit? Then post roll in January 2013 right now. Day one. If you had read anything prior to posting, you would have known people were not going to accept that patch business. There are other sites for that - I could be wrong but KTC lite may be one. Maybe thats more your speed - if so then fine. More power to you. But that doesn't fly here. I said I could spot fradulent quitters - It's a specialty of mine. Prove me wrong.

[mfkuss]

Looks like I was wrong about this site, chock full of tough guy assholes I see.

Somebody uses a different method and you basically tell them to fuck off.

I'll quit on my own terms, not the terms you want to push on me.

Welcome to my spam box bitches

Yes. There's lots of tough love in here. All of us here will support you 100% if you ONLY do one little thing.

1)No, not apologize. We don't care about that

QUIT THE NIC RIGHT NOW! You don't go into a AA meeting with a beer, and you don't bring your NIC patch into here! Get rid of the patch! Post Roll and keep your promise and I'll stand there proudly with you!!!!

I agree!! I will stick by you too if you QUIT NOW and start posting roll!!

[Arfy]

Looks like I was wrong about this site, chock full of tough guy assholes I see.

Somebody uses a different method and you basically tell them to fuck off.

I'll quit on my own terms, not the terms you want to push on me.

Welcome to my spam box bitches

Yes. There's lots of tough love in here. All of us here will support you 100% if you ONLY do one little thing.

1)No, not apologize. We don't care about that

QUIT THE NIC RIGHT NOW! You don't go into a AA meeting with a beer, and you don't bring your NIC patch into here! Get rid of the patch! Post Roll and keep your promise and I'll stand there proudly with you!!!!

[Diesel2112]

EWWWWW, NOT THE SPAM BOX!!!!! There is no "different method" here...tough guy asshole. Come back and say you're going cold turkey and I will support you to no end.

[eric71]

Ah come on. Why'd you have to go and do that Blue? It was gettin' all quitastic in here and you had to pull the tough guy card. We've heard it all before. We're cyber-bullies. We get it. But I've never seen a bully act like a bully for the benefit of the person they were bullying. That's just not how it works here. nobody wants you to leave. We know this place works and why. We are all quit like fuck because of this place and because of the tough love - not in spite of it.

Don't come in here, shit on our furniture and piss on our rugs, then expect us to be happy about it. There are many cessation programs out there. pick one. but this one is free and it works. you just gotta follow the program.

Man up or ship out. If you can't take the way we quit, you won't stay quit if you decided to stick around. It is getting colder in the year, time for the special butterfly to construct its cocoon and emerge from it in the spring as just what they went into as...

AN ADDICT.

Bring your anger and quit to me, I'll keep you quit with the help of my brothers in here.

[per034]

Ah come on. Why'd you have to go and do that Blue? It was gettin' all quitastic in here and you had to pull the tough guy card. We've heard it all before. We're cyber-bullies. We get it. But I've never seen a bully act like a bully for the benefit of the person they were bullying. That's just not how it works here. nobody wants you to leave. We know this place works and why. We are all quit like fuck because of this place and because of the tough love - not in spite of it.

Don't come in here, shit on our furniture and piss on our rugs, then expect us to be happy about it. There are many cessation programs out there. pick one. but this one is free and it works. you just gotta follow the program.

[Kubrick]

Enjoy your patches sweetheart! At least until you pick the cigs, snus or chew back up.

Quit or die. Your choice.

It's so simple. Not easy, but simple.

[Greg5280]

Looks like I was wrong about this site, chock full of tough guy assholes I see.

Somebody uses a different method and you basically tell them to fuck off.

I'll quit on my own terms, not the terms you want to push on me.

Welcome to my spam box bitches

You do not have a different method to quitting. Your method keeps you addicted forever. There is no cutting back to quit, doesnt work. You know it and so do we.

I can tell from your tone you already know more about quitting than we do so I wish you luck with your "other" method. But I do have to ask;If you have it all figured out with your new quit method why are you here?

Don't come to our site and tell us our way doesnt work when thousands remain quit daily using our method. Your patch, snus, fake cig method will fail. I promise you it will.

When you are serious about quitting come back by and let us know. We will be here waiting...

[Scowick65]

We will be here if and when you are ready to quit. We hold no grudges. This is not the first conversation of this sort we have had with a drive by quitter.

That said, you had a whole buch of quit sherpas arrive to get you to the top of the mountain. They know the way up. They have been there before. Me thinks you can't buy that kind of help. Certainly not from Big-Patch Nicotine Delivery Company.