Day 1 - hello

[ParadigmDawg]

I don't think you guys realize how difficult this addiction is to quit...give the dude a hug and tell him that you are sorry as you don't understand what he is going through.

I mean...geeeezzzz....you guys' had it so easy when you quit....all you had to do was post roll call and not dip...

It's much harder than that for us new guys... we have to...ummm...post roll call and...ummmm...not dip....

Crap, never mind and carry on.....nothing to see here.....

[JayDubya]

[snip]...addicted self [snip]...caving [snip]...addicted self is still in control [snip]...Your addicted [snip]...addictive drugs [snip]...addiction and winning. 

I actually like that anger your demonstrating.  Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.

Dexter1225, connect the dots for all the keywords above, THEN go back and re-read everything srans told you. I also reiterated his last piece of advice about anger. Everything srans said in his post is awesome and on point. His post is an inspirational "frame of mind"...

[Derk40]

We all have been thru this so when you say it is difficult you are preaching to the choir. This sucks, it's hard... but we have all done it. You can do it too!

You are in a tough time  foggy, and it sounds like you need positive support. Unfortunatley, when you join up... quit... then cave... you have to be accountable for your actions  you need to be honest  forthright with us. We just can't tell you everything you want to hear. That is why we have you answer the 3 questions. Your answers really showed no thought or reflection on your part and for #3 you actually gave up. That is not how we quit here. We QLF!

I know you want everyone to say that everything is ok and you are great, but that is not how this site works. If we see you going the wrong direction... we are going to tell you. That is why this site does work.

You need to relax and listen up. Think about the questions and answer them with some honesty  put together a plan to beat this nicotine addition.

I promise you this... going at this alone will be tougher sledding and I would bet my next paycheck you will be back with your master by weeks end.

Stay here, answer for your cave, take some advice, post roll daily  join the KTC brotherhood. You will win!

[srans]

This is exactly what your addicted self wants. First it talks you into caving and then it talks you into not posting roll because you get all but hurt because people hold you accountable. This is because their addicted self is still in control and will eventually talk them into another and another.

Your addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. There is a quitter somewhere in you. Dig deep my friend! You got to reeeaaallllyyy want this and this site can help. The people here are good people that have battled this addiction and winning.

You came here on your own,, this tells me you wanted help. You wanted the accountability. What exactly did you think that meant?? Obviously we have different ways of thinking what accountability means. You think it means ball coddling and to me it means keeping you accountable. I expect you to keep your word. I have every day for 225 days and I expect you to.

Here it is,, plain an simple. Post your word and keep it one day at a time. You give that word and we will hold you to it. Get some numbers, use them. We fight this together. We won't be here to say it's ok every time you cave. It's been said and I'll say it again. We're here for one purpose. To QUIT!!!!!!!!!! If you can't make it more than a day or two you probably are right. Maybe you should move along. I actually like that anger your demonstrating. Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.

[jzzyzag01]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here.  Maybe I am off base, but I am lost.  Did you post roll in the December group the other day?  I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time.  You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1." 

That is not how it works.  We all have a little more pride in our quit than that. 

Sounds like you don't want to quit.  Nicorette gum?  Have you read anything about this site.  Cold turkey!  We don't do nicorette gum in these parts.  Anything with nicotine is not an option.  Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready.  As stated, you got to want this.  Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit. 

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.

You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?

Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.

1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.

As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.

Thanks again for your support, everyone.

Answering to yourself?

Seems like doing it that way has been busting your ass, no?

Your way = cave. Our way = quit. But you're going to have to come to that realization on your own. We can't help you with that part. Only difference between you and me is that I made that realization before you. Too bad I had 17 years of slavery before the truth hit me in the face.

Of course this isn't easy Dexter. I've spent the last 90 minutes reading posts on this site to take my mind off the nasty cravings this morning. It helps and it works. I've tried to quit a dozen times before. Each time I said, I got it this time. There isn't anything stopping me from making it. Less than a week in each time and I folded.

It's not easy, but want to know what would be worse? Recovering from facial surgery after they've cut half your face open to remove cancer. Worse than that? Looking your wife (or future wife) and kids in the eyes and saying that you're going to die because you were too selfish to just quit once and for all.

You're right Dexter. This is YOUR quit. To make sure that it's your QUIT though, take the support that we're offering you to make sure you make it. Maybe you don't need a ton of help, but if it keeps you from reaching for your keys to head to the store one time, it will be worth it. Stay strong brother and whatever you decide, best of luck staying nic free. You can do it. PM me if you need to chat.

peace and quit.

[Minny]

1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.

:j2b:

[G]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here.  Maybe I am off base, but I am lost.  Did you post roll in the December group the other day?  I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time.  You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1." 

That is not how it works.  We all have a little more pride in our quit than that. 

Sounds like you don't want to quit.  Nicorette gum?  Have you read anything about this site.  Cold turkey!  We don't do nicorette gum in these parts.  Anything with nicotine is not an option.  Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready.  As stated, you got to want this.  Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit. 

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.

You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?

Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.

1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.

As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.

Thanks again for your support, everyone.

Answering to yourself?

Seems like doing it that way has been busting your ass, no?

Your way = cave. Our way = quit. But you're going to have to come to that realization on your own. We can't help you with that part. Only difference between you and me is that I made that realization before you. Too bad I had 17 years of slavery before the truth hit me in the face.

[Dexter1225]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here.  Maybe I am off base, but I am lost.  Did you post roll in the December group the other day?  I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time.  You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1." 

That is not how it works.  We all have a little more pride in our quit than that. 

Sounds like you don't want to quit.  Nicorette gum?  Have you read anything about this site.  Cold turkey!  We don't do nicorette gum in these parts.  Anything with nicotine is not an option.  Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready.  As stated, you got to want this.  Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit. 

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.

You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?

Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.

1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.

As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.

Thanks again for your support, everyone.

[Minny]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here.  Maybe I am off base, but I am lost.  Did you post roll in the December group the other day?  I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time.  You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1." 

That is not how it works.  We all have a little more pride in our quit than that. 

Sounds like you don't want to quit.  Nicorette gum?  Have you read anything about this site.  Cold turkey!  We don't do nicorette gum in these parts.  Anything with nicotine is not an option.  Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready.  As stated, you got to want this.  Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit. 

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.

You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?

Hiding it from loved ones is the same thing as lying.
Saying you've quit over and over again? You're either lying to yourself (and us) or you are a complete and total pussy.

Wake the fuck up. Are you quit or are you slowing down/weaning? If you aren't quit, beat it. You can be like me (a caver who didn't "get it" at first but now is QLF) or you can be like the rest of the chumps that talk big and disappear. It's your CHOICE.

Talk is cheap. Post roll and choose to be quit.

[Derk40]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here.  Maybe I am off base, but I am lost.  Did you post roll in the December group the other day?  I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time.  You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1." 

That is not how it works.  We all have a little more pride in our quit than that. 

Sounds like you don't want to quit.  Nicorette gum?  Have you read anything about this site.  Cold turkey!  We don't do nicorette gum in these parts.  Anything with nicotine is not an option.  Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready.  As stated, you got to want this.  Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit. 

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.

You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?

[Derk40]

I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December  January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting  caving.

You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."

That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.

Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right  come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.

Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time

[Wade]

You guys are all right - this is up to me, I'm not trying to pass blame, it's up to me to stay quit.

I don't want to try the nicorrette sh!t but I was curious what everyone thought, I appreciate all your thoughts lol

I am still quit from my cave this morning and just going to power through lunch and keep quit.  I really do appreciate the tough love, really.  It's exactly what I need.

I'm going to use this thread to post my updates and post roll tomorrow.  I WILL beat this bitch today!

You have to commit to your quit. You have to close the door in your mind, turn around and walk the fuck away and NEVER look back. Don't go into this thinking "maybe" or any sort of half-assed wishy washy thoughts. Otherwise you will cave and you will cave quick. Flush any and every bit of nicotine you have down the toilet and make a SOLID commitment in your mind that you will never even peep back into that door. If you leave even the merest hint of a possibility open in your mind, you will drive yourself insane thinking about caving...and then cave. This takes balls...you have them, use them.

[Dexter1225]

You guys are all right - this is up to me, I'm not trying to pass blame, it's up to me to stay quit.

I don't want to try the nicorrette sh!t but I was curious what everyone thought, I appreciate all your thoughts lol

I am still quit from my cave this morning and just going to power through lunch and keep quit. I really do appreciate the tough love, really. It's exactly what I need.

I'm going to use this thread to post my updates and post roll tomorrow. I WILL beat this bitch today!

[srans]

I hate these first 3 days

You must love it if you want to do it again and again...

I caved again this morning

Looks like you only made it one or two days,, what you going to do different? Obviously your being owned right now. You have to rrrrreeeeeallly want this! We can tell you it's worth it and things get better, but the thing is you have to stay quit, which takes a lot of determination (maybe you don't have this and need to acquire it) and drive...

The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone

This is not a habbit,,, your are addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. Stop trying it your way,,, use KTC method,, it's proven. 16,0000 have used this site to quit,, what makes you different??

My recommendation would be this my friend. Start diving in to this site. Read, read and read. Learn this enemy, and stop loving it. The poison does not play,, it will take until there is nothing left. It's a filthy disgusting can of dirt that's leading you around. It will take your tongue, jaw, throat and even life. You need to start owning this quit!! Learning this enemy is half the battle. Learn why it's hard to defeat this foe. I can't quit for you, neither can anyone else. How about you quit for yourself,, take it to the next level.

My last thought.....

Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?

Really???? Let me change your quote. Nicorette and any other form of the poison is for slave driven idiots!!

[30isEnuff]

I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...

I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support.  I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow. 

I need to reach out more, I realize that.  The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend.  She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT.  I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.

I'm ashamed and mad at myself.  Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself.  I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking.  I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...

Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)?  Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?

Dexter, man up and get it together. Look below, there are people in your quit group fighting through this and winning. They are reaching out to you.

You are asking if it is easier with nic replacement crap. WTF.. of course it is easier because with that crap you aren't quit. The best replacement stuff is the fake chew with some added nicotine. That would make it really easy. You see how silly that is?

Now, you are no less of a man than any of us on here. We aren't professionals, we aren't Kobe Bryant with some insane natural gift. No, we are just folks who stepped up and took the beating that comes as a result of our poor choices.

You can too. So do it... Toss the can. Stay on this site, text or call others (PM me and I will give you my number) take today's misery like a man and feel the pride that comes with beating the nic-bitch down for an entire day. Then wake up and do it again.

It is time to take a stand or come back when you are truly ready to quit.

I have a tip for ya!
Fuck off and go to a different site where they coddle your little balls for you.