Intro from NW Wisconsin

[Smeds]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

If I knew how to use the internets I'd post a picture of 2 July penguins in a hawt 69, but I don't know how to use the interwebs that well.

You of all people ... you need to see this. You ain't right! QLF with you EDD though.

I think you are both right. Whatever works.

I personally think you gotta have confidence to do anything. Successful people are confident. And very successful people don't forget the basics. Quitting, and living life, are done best by quitting and living ODAAT. IMHO, ODAAT is the only way to go. Time is too valuable.

Keep up the badass quits!

I don't know if it's rude for me to cut into the Smeds T-wort make out session...but while I feel that this quit is different and will be with me my entire life. I know I owe it to the daily promise. If i stopped making that promise I know I wouldn't start dipping immediately...but somewhere down the road I do think I could be lured back into shit. On a different note, I am so fucking sick of alcohol being used as the reason to start dipping again. If you can't handle yourself don't drink. Whether drunk or sober my mentality doesn't change....I made a promise and I am not dipping. Quit with both of you guys. and grizzlyclaws as well.

Just for clarity, I want to point out that the VERY MOST important thing to me is posting roll, and early. I literally wake up, piss, and honor roll. I do that in every group ... EDD.

I realize there are many ways to quit. What works for me is burn the boats, burn the bridges, burn every thing behind me and embrace  celebrate the new life of quit. This is not much different than those that do the same thing ODAAT. In reality, I start over each day with a renewed promise on roll.

Thanks to all who contributed, I appreciate the words. One thing is certain, I'm damn proud to be part of KTC!

[Dagranger]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

If I knew how to use the internets I'd post a picture of 2 July penguins in a hawt 69, but I don't know how to use the interwebs that well.

You of all people ... you need to see this. You ain't right! QLF with you EDD though.

I think you are both right. Whatever works.

I personally think you gotta have confidence to do anything. Successful people are confident. And very successful people don't forget the basics. Quitting, and living life, are done best by quitting and living ODAAT. IMHO, ODAAT is the only way to go. Time is too valuable.

Keep up the badass quits!

I don't know if it's rude for me to cut into the Smeds T-wort make out session...but while I feel that this quit is different and will be with me my entire life. I know I owe it to the daily promise. If i stopped making that promise I know I wouldn't start dipping immediately...but somewhere down the road I do think I could be lured back into shit. On a different note, I am so fucking sick of alcohol being used as the reason to start dipping again. If you can't handle yourself don't drink. Whether drunk or sober my mentality doesn't change....I made a promise and I am not dipping. Quit with both of you guys. and grizzlyclaws as well.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

If I knew how to use the internets I'd post a picture of 2 July penguins in a hawt 69, but I don't know how to use the interwebs that well.

You of all people ... you need to see this. You ain't right! QLF with you EDD though.

I think you are both right. Whatever works.

I personally think you gotta have confidence to do anything. Successful people are confident. And very successful people don't forget the basics. Quitting, and living life, are done best by quitting and living ODAAT. IMHO, ODAAT is the only way to go. Time is too valuable.

Keep up the badass quits!

[Smeds]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

If I knew how to use the internets I'd post a picture of 2 July penguins in a hawt 69, but I don't know how to use the interwebs that well.

You of all people ... you need to see this. You ain't right! QLF with you EDD though.

[Thumblewort]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

If I knew how to use the internets I'd post a picture of 2 July penguins in a hawt 69, but I don't know how to use the interwebs that well.

[Smeds]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

Thanks for weighing in Thumble, I appreciate it ... and understand it. We are all different in what brought us here. One thing is a constant ... I quit with you every damn day bro. Proud to call you my July brother.

[Thumblewort]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

I do look at this ODAAT Smeds, but that is my personal preference. While I am confident this is my FINAL quit as well, I will always only promise one day, as I have broken my promise too many times in the past. I have told anyone who will listen as much, because once people hear for the first time I have quit, I frequently get the "is it forever" question. I answer that I have a great support site, and if I follow what I have been taught and practicing for the last 5 months that I will not use tobacco today.

I think the difference between us Smeds is that I have tried to quit 30-40 times, all of which involved lying to my wife and family once I started back up. I give you mad props for this being you first and only quit, but for me, I need to buy in to the ODAAT philosophy.

[Smeds]

OK ... July '14 lost a fairly reliable brother to the nic bitch this weekend. Here was a guy who took part in the HOF conductor process ... he had our digits. He caved while drunk, as have many before him There has been some good, at times heated discussion regarding this. I wanted to copy my post from there into here, because I'm curious if it rings true for others. Does everyone here ONLY look at this battle one day at a time? At what point does that progress into a "different" mindset? Am I over-confident? I definitely have the capacity to use again. But my choice is a resounding fucking NO!!!!! Here it is:

A different thought here ... from my perspective only:

For me, after 33 years ... this is the only time I have ever tried to quit. Sure, I thought about it in the past ... all the time with a turd in the lip. So this is my first quit, and my ONLY quit! I understand the ODAAT mentality, and embraced it early. However for me I think it truly pertains to the early part of my quit. Personally, to go along thinking I would spend the rest of my life depressed about the occasional pangs or cravings is now ridiculous. Why? Because at this stage in my quit I refuse to let them dictate my journey. I know it is the doubt and uncertainty about the quit that makes it difficult for some. I have no doubt, I have no uncertainty ... my mind-set is that this is FINAL and I do not doubt it, nor do I question it ... I celebrate it. I AM FUCKING QUIT, I've made that decision! On top of that, I make my daily promise to you guys, and all the other groups I post in. I am a man of integrity, and I mean what I say! For me, thatÂ’s ownership of my quit, and confidence in my quit. If I am found with a chew in my lip ... I was murdered, and someone for some fucked-up reason placed it there. FYI, same thing goes if you ever hear of me dead on a jogging trail ... call the investigators, I was murdered and placed there!

[steffano626]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

I've been preaching to the people in my life who dip, so far to deaf ears. Great job Smeds, although they won't get the barrage of Smed-memes like we do.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but the VAST majority of addicts quit when that internal voice tells them to stop and they finally listen. Usually, no amount of preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc will convince someone to quit and quit for good. Hell, we have all happily ignored those giant black warning labels on top of every tin that say "This product causes cancer".

I agree Tuco ... 99.98% anyway. However, most of the time the people actually preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc don't carry the toolbox of KTC with them. I know I got lucky ... and it was (is) worth the attempt ... every damn time. I'm sure they were teetering with the "want" as you said ... I'm just glad I gave the shove.

I do think an openly successful quitter challenges the status quo of active nicotine addicts, while failed quit attempts help them to tell themselves that quitting is too hard. Anyone who has used this site knows WAY more than the average nicotine addict and this knowledge is power.

[Thumblewort]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

I've been preaching to the people in my life who dip, so far to deaf ears. Great job Smeds, although they won't get the barrage of Smed-memes like we do.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but the VAST majority of addicts quit when that internal voice tells them to stop and they finally listen. Usually, no amount of preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc will convince someone to quit and quit for good. Hell, we have all happily ignored those giant black warning labels on top of every tin that say "This product causes cancer".

I agree Tuco ... 99.98% anyway. However, most of the time the people actually preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc don't carry the toolbox of KTC with them. I know I got lucky ... and it was (is) worth the attempt ... every damn time. I'm sure they were teetering with the "want" as you said ... I'm just glad I gave the shove.

Yeah, it's no surprise that you shove your tools in whatever you want. 'na na'

[Smeds]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

I've been preaching to the people in my life who dip, so far to deaf ears. Great job Smeds, although they won't get the barrage of Smed-memes like we do.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but the VAST majority of addicts quit when that internal voice tells them to stop and they finally listen. Usually, no amount of preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc will convince someone to quit and quit for good. Hell, we have all happily ignored those giant black warning labels on top of every tin that say "This product causes cancer".

I agree Tuco ... 99.98% anyway. However, most of the time the people actually preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc don't carry the toolbox of KTC with them. I know I got lucky ... and it was (is) worth the attempt ... every damn time. I'm sure they were teetering with the "want" as you said ... I'm just glad I gave the shove.

[Tuco]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

I've been preaching to the people in my life who dip, so far to deaf ears. Great job Smeds, although they won't get the barrage of Smed-memes like we do.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but the VAST majority of addicts quit when that internal voice tells them to stop and they finally listen. Usually, no amount of preaching/pleading/scolding/lecturing/cajoling/etc will convince someone to quit and quit for good. Hell, we have all happily ignored those giant black warning labels on top of every tin that say "This product causes cancer".

[Thumblewort]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

I've been preaching to the people in my life who dip, so far to deaf ears. Great job Smeds, although they won't get the barrage of Smed-memes like we do.

[mattyf118]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...

Good stuff man. I think we all can do with a little relighting of the fire every now and then. Proud to be quit with you.

[Smeds]

Day 128

Well, two of my closest friends (including the one I mentioned earlier in this intro) have decided to quit chewing, based on a lot of my soap box-ing. Neither of them are very computer literate ... much less the type to join a quit forum. However, they both know that I'm their quit-forum ... and that I'm full of it! Some of you will probably say, "yeah, no shit!" What I mean is that I am "full of" advice re: my quit ... I take ownership of it every day. I'm full of quit confidence, which according to Bronc makes me sexy as hell uncomfortably clears throat. I'm also aware of all the pitfalls that could take me down in the road ahead ... I'm aware of these things because of the men who have stopped and failed before me. We tend to hammer the shit out of a caver here, and I 100% understand why. We need to kill that guy, so that a new guy can be reborn. "The road to quit is littered with the bodies of the weak" - whose quote is that? I love it ... just can't remember who wrote it. The fact is, we are all cavers here ... we've all, at a minimum said "I'm gonna quit this shit today" ... only to go back to it. We understand the weakness, because it used to own us. Emphasis on "used to". I'm too damn strong now, my web of accountability is too large ... I've got too many BAQ's in my corner to let that fucking chemical EVER own me again!

I'm proud of my two buddies (and checking on them daily if not more), but I'm not done bothering the rest of the guys I share a deer camp/duck blind/boat with that still chew. I want them around too in the future ... and now I have extra tools to make them consider the choices they're making in life. I'm post-HOF, refocused, and loving life and the freedom of the quit! For all of that and more, I say "Thanks to KTC and my brothers of quit!"

Anyway, just wanted to get this in a place I can come back to and read later. See you on roll tomorrow ...