Gearing up for Day 1

[Bean]

I get what you all are saying, and thanks for the advise. Yes, I know it wont be easy, and I know that tomorrow is not promised. I'm also a strategist. I'm not putting anything off. I don't need to accept that I'm an addict, I already do, thats why I am here. One thing about me though, is that once I decide to do something, I make a plan and I do it. Period. I have never made this decision before, or failed. I will not fail at this, and I will not jump into it without the tools I know that will help ME as an individual. For me, fireballs and toothpicks don't work, to reduce my oral cravings. The fake stuff does. I choose this route for myself, because the physical addiction is tremendous and I choose not to add to my misery and frustration by trying to do it without at least a substitute for the part that I can control.

This is my choice, I am doing it for me. Doing it for me is the same as doing it for my wife and children. I married her and we became one flesh, my daughter is my flesh. I do it for myself and them because in my mind there is little distinction.

I know there are doubters out there that are thinking, "this guy isnt committed, he won't do it." And for those of you, I have heard your opinions, I respect them, and to those of you who agree, I have heard it represented. I won't be bullied into anything based on taunts of "be a man" or "there is no "excuse." I am a man and I can make plenty of excuses. That has nothing to to with this.

I will quit by making a plan, a resolution  and then implementing it one day at a time. My plan begins Thursday. My time to prepare, to get the house ready, to get my wife on board, and to make sure that all my stashes are gone and my weapons are in place. I know for a fact alot of you took that "one last dip" before you quit the next morning, and the same principle applies here.

For those of you who doubt me, check back in Thursday and see who is on the roll call and who is not. I will expect apologies ;)

Read the Tom and Jenny Kern story. Then tell us that you think your plan is better than ours. Don't reply until you read the whole story. It can be found by clicking on "Killthecan.org" link above.

You can do this.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

I get what you all are saying, and thanks for the advise. Yes, I know it wont be easy, and I know that tomorrow is not promised. I'm also a strategist. I'm not putting anything off. I don't need to accept that I'm an addict, I already do, thats why I am here. One thing about me though, is that once I decide to do something, I make a plan and I do it. Period. I have never made this decision before, or failed. I will not fail at this, and I will not jump into it without the tools I know that will help ME as an individual. For me, fireballs and toothpicks don't work, to reduce my oral cravings. The fake stuff does. I choose this route for myself, because the physical addiction is tremendous and I choose not to add to my misery and frustration by trying to do it without at least a substitute for the part that I can control.

This is my choice, I am doing it for me. Doing it for me is the same as doing it for my wife and children. I married her and we became one flesh, my daughter is my flesh. I do it for myself and them because in my mind there is little distinction.

I know there are doubters out there that are thinking, "this guy isnt committed, he won't do it." And for those of you, I have heard your opinions, I respect them, and to those of you who agree, I have heard it represented. I won't be bullied into anything based on taunts of "be a man" or "there is no "excuse." I am a man and I can make plenty of excuses. That has nothing to to with this.

I will quit by making a plan, a resolution and then implementing it one day at a time. My plan begins Thursday. My time to prepare, to get the house ready, to get my wife on board, and to make sure that all my stashes are gone and my weapons are in place. I know for a fact alot of you took that "one last dip" before you quit the next morning, and the same principle applies here.

For those of you who doubt me, check back in Thursday and see who is on the roll call and who is not. I will expect apologies ;)

[Evil_Won]

I agree with everything already stated. A planned quit is an excuse to dip now. If you want to quit just quit. Cold turkey.

The "crutches" can make dealing with the oral fixation thing a little easier, but in the end you are in control of your actions. Are you strong enough to stand up and face this fight? It's an every day and every moment battle. Think deeply. If you are not ready now, that's fine. It's your decision. We'll still be here when/if you find that you are ready in the future.

If you are not ready to quit for you, you will fail. This can't be about your wife, your kids, your whatever. It has to be your quit. Quitting for you is the foundation. The wife and soon to be kid are parts of the structure you will build on top of your quit foundation. Without the strong foundation everything else crumbles.

I'm only 237 days quit and I still think about dip at least a dozen times a day. Yes, the urges to actually go out and buy a can has lessened, but the thought of dipping is just as strong as ever. I don't think the thought of dip will ever disappear and I don't really want it to either. I bet that sounds fucked up, but every time I think about dip I get pissed and realize that I'm an addict. I get pissed that 237 days later this shit still has a slight grab of me. That anger fuels my desire to quit today.

[Bean]

Lucious - get ready for a lecture...

I used to be you...I set quit dates that never happened. I was pissed that "I couldn't" quit on my own and the guilt was overwhelming. I would rationalize that it was okay to dip once more because I was going to quit anyway on _____________ (fill in the blank...Sunday, birthday, Christmas, graduation, birth of a child, etc.). Then, when the time came, I would renegotiate. Oh, ran into unexpected work stress...better quit tomorrow. Kids are sick, better quit tomorrow. Car broke down, my team lost, too cold, anything...better quit tomorrow. I was a professional excuse-maker.

Ahhh...the fucked up mind of an addict. We are con men. And, like all con men, the first person we deceive is ourselves. You've go to face facts...you are an addict, someone who will do anything for a fix.

Ordering the fake stuff is fine, but don't wait on the mailman to begin saving your life. Candy, seeds, gum, water, excercise...you already have to tools to quit. Waiting on the fake stuff to be delivered is an EXCUSE. See, to be quit, you must want it more than you want your next breath. There is no room for excuses. You just quit, or you don't. YOU have to make that decision.

You already know what to do...dump that shit in the toilet, post roll, and get busy quitting. Click on the Welcome Center link and read...everything...then read it again.

Another thing I noticed in your post is that it does not appear that YOU believe YOU CAN do this. I got news for you...YOU CAN. You don't need the fake stuff. You think you do because you don't believe in yourself and you're using addict logic. But, you've got everything you need already. Click around and look at the Quit Groups...not just September 2013...go back over the years and months. All of those bad-asses were once right where you are now. And all of those bad-asses have your back as soon as you post your word that you are quit.

But, freedom won't come invite you to join. You've got to crash the party. YOU CAN DO IT! Yes, it will suck. But you already know that. Laugh at the withdrawal symptoms...embrace the suck!!! It is the feeling of healing! You take the first step, and we've got your back the rest of the way.

[Wt57]

Greetings everyone!

I have been dipping pretty regularly since I joined the USMC at 18. I am 29 now and my B-day is July 28. I don't want to be doing this crap when I turn 30. I also have a little girl on the way, so that's a little added motivation in addition to the fact that its long overdue, and I know its time. I've been putting this off too long but I've known for a few months now that I no longer want to do this stuff.

I picked up my first sample pack of skoal straight when I was about 15. I played around with it for a few years, but didn't become hooked till later. I've been on it for 10 years and do about half a can a day and sometimes more.

A little while back I started sampling some non-tobacco alternatives to figure out which ones were the best to me and I found some that's not as good but it does meet my need to pinch during the times I generally dip. I've ordered several rolls and am waiting for them to come in. Should be here in two days.

The day they arrive will be my Day 1. I actually went a week or so without dip while I was sampling the alts, until I ran out, so I feel like the only missing link now was this support community to keep me on track for the long haul.

I look forward to getting to know the people here and joining a group very very soon.

Lucius

There is absolutely NO good reason to not quit right now. This instant. You'll feel the same way and go through the same withdrawl later that you will if you quit now. You are half way there to being quit. You have stepped into the arena, now it's time to put the gloves on. Being in the USMC, i'm sure you battled with the pugile sticks....pick yours up and beat back your addiction.

Lucius I have got to agree with wedge. Flush your stash now and be the man that is inside you. We've all been right where you are standing, JUMP! The oral fixation can be satisfied with many different products: toothpicks, seeds, hard candy, etc.. I know you can do it. We can and will support your quit in every way possible but we can't do anything but encourage you quit until you make that decision. We all quit one day at a time, so can you.
JUMP

[traumagnet]

postal delivery times and fake dip are no reasons to delay the quit. You will learn here quickly we support anyone that is nicotine free we will be there for you morning noon or night what we dont tolerate is excuses to delay the suck.

Listen,learn read read read...go to the welcome center quit dipping
find your group which is SEPtember and post roll. Flush all the nasty crap you have laying around and get your quit on.

PM me if you need anything.

[zam]

Yea, better be honest with yourself brother. Fake chew isn't the answer to quitting. It's a crutch at best. YOU are the answer. And you have a few years before you are "doing this crap at 30", so what's the rush? What happens if its still difficult with fake chew? Sounds like you are lining up the reasons that allow you to dip TODAY. Will a couple of days from now be a good, convenient day to quit? We'll see. I hope so, because I hate to see someone willingly continue slavery. Of course, if you had enough of slavery, you'd give it up right now.

[Wedge]

Greetings everyone!

I have been dipping pretty regularly since I joined the USMC at 18. I am 29 now and my B-day is July 28. I don't want to be doing this crap when I turn 30. I also have a little girl on the way, so that's a little added motivation in addition to the fact that its long overdue, and I know its time. I've been putting this off too long but I've known for a few months now that I no longer want to do this stuff.

I picked up my first sample pack of skoal straight when I was about 15. I played around with it for a few years, but didn't become hooked till later. I've been on it for 10 years and do about half a can a day and sometimes more.

A little while back I started sampling some non-tobacco alternatives to figure out which ones were the best to me and I found some that's not as good but it does meet my need to pinch during the times I generally dip. I've ordered several rolls and am waiting for them to come in. Should be here in two days.

The day they arrive will be my Day 1. I actually went a week or so without dip while I was sampling the alts, until I ran out, so I feel like the only missing link now was this support community to keep me on track for the long haul.

I look forward to getting to know the people here and joining a group very very soon.

Lucius

There is absolutely NO good reason to not quit right now. This instant. You'll feel the same way and go through the same withdrawl later that you will if you quit now. You are half way there to being quit. You have stepped into the arena, now it's time to put the gloves on. Being in the USMC, i'm sure you battled with the pugile sticks....pick yours up and beat back your addiction.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Greetings everyone!

I have been dipping pretty regularly since I joined the USMC at 18. I am 29 now and my B-day is July 28. I don't want to be doing this crap when I turn 30. I also have a little girl on the way, so that's a little added motivation in addition to the fact that its long overdue, and I know its time. I've been putting this off too long but I've known for a few months now that I no longer want to do this stuff.

I picked up my first sample pack of skoal straight when I was about 15. I played around with it for a few years, but didn't become hooked till later. I've been on it for 10 years and do about half a can a day and sometimes more.

A little while back I started sampling some non-tobacco alternatives to figure out which ones were the best to me and I found some that's not as good but it does meet my need to pinch during the times I generally dip. I've ordered several rolls and am waiting for them to come in. Should be here in two days.

The day they arrive will be my Day 1. I actually went a week or so without dip while I was sampling the alts, until I ran out, so I feel like the only missing link now was this support community to keep me on track for the long haul.

I look forward to getting to know the people here and joining a group very very soon.

Lucius