Gearing up for Day 1

[Diesel2112]

What is this, return of the idiot?

Your 30 days quit...I'M GLAD. I thought for sure you went back to the can, I'm glad I was wrong!!! I don't wish nic addiction on my worst enemy.

Here's the thing though. You do not belong here. You have your way and we have our way. This site has rules, principles and a support system you just don't believe in or belong in.

It's ok. The KTC way is not for everybody.

Either your in or your out here, its binary...you are either a 1 or a Zero.

You are zero.

100% Gods honest truth. The best thing you could do, is go and start your own sight. Because here, you are just bashing people who believe in quitting a certain way.

Go start LDquitters.com where you don't suck eachothers dicks, and you don't cry about craves. Also you only "support" (I use that term very loosely) every 30 days or so.

Seriously there have been people really struggling since you last ejected out of here. Where were you with ANY kind of support?

Gone. Because you are selfish. No brotherhood, no having anyone's back, no helping lift those who were down, and just no help to anybody. We don't need that kind of person here.

This is a voulantary community. People are here because they found a system that has worked for them and they wish to continue with it.

That's the bottom line in all this. They don't want to see some ragging loon come flying through here once a month telling us what we should and shouldn't be doing.

We don't care what you have to say. We found something we like and is working.

Just go away and stay quit.

[LionHeartedGirl]

Your way does succeed. 5% of the time. I genuinely hope you are one of the 5%. But trying to sway people away from a way that works far better than 5% is unconscionable. I don't predict you will be dipping in 30 days and I never did. But here is what I will predict: In 10 years when you have finally matured and become a man, you will look back at this and be embarrassed for yourself. Of course I expect you to disagree right now. You're still a boy and haven't thrown off boyish ways yet. You remind me of my 12 year old. He's convinced he knows everything too.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

Hey bro, I thank you for your genuine support. Finally someone that aint afraid to meet in the middle.

But I disagree with you. Its not time to part ways. Maybe I dont need you and you dont need me, but future quitters need one of us or the other. You and I both are fighting the same war, and though our methods are different we are on the same team. People like me deserve to have mentors as well. Those who quit tobacco through means other than posting daily roll would also have a record of previous quitters to look up to and take motivation from.

The reason I came back to this site today to post updates wasnt to stick a big "told you so" sign up for all the doubters. It was to to light a beacon of hope for other people who are trying to quit, but who may struggle with the Kill the Can modus operand.

This site is called "Kill the Can" and not "12 steps for tobacco users" meaning that it encompasses more than just a single ideal of how to quit. Kill the can is not a system, but a community. Its not about conforming to a certain belief system. Its about quitting tobacco. If I quit tobacco I have as much a right to be on here posting as the rest of you. If you disagree, I have a bunch of Marine buddies on this site who have offered to back my play at my request, and they will be quick to support me if I call on them.

Some of you guys have really pissed them off by what you have said about me, but I have kept them at bay by reminding them that I instigated the conflict. Yeah, I stirred the pot. I came in here guns blazing and assaulted every belief that many of you hold dear. As a result, many of you hammered on me, and I made many enemies. Rightfully so. I served a purpose. I built community between you. Sometimes a group needs a common enemy in order to band together.

However, the end result speaks louder than words. I am tobacco free. I killed the can. I have counselled with my Marine buddies on this site and they have granted me the right to continue speaking here.

I may seem like you enemy, but I am not. I am just different. Instead of posting roll each day, I go about life tobacco free. Is that so bad? Is that such a sin that I should be kicked out of the "Kick the Can" community?

The reality is, this site has moderators. Those moderators have the right to kick me out anytime they want. They continue to allow me to speak freedom to addicts. Until they silence me, I will continue to set an example of tobacco free living.

God bless each and every one of you!

-LB

You are insecure. Call on your homies. And yes, this is me calling you out. You have no fans.

LOL. "Homies?" What the fuck is that? Call me out if you want. Look who just made a dick of themselves. I don't need backup to deal with someone like you. Just re-read what I wrote in my last post. If you still feel the need to talk shit, stop and read it again until you figure it out.

Lucius

Na na na naaaaaa hey heeey goodbye!

lol. I guess we are done with proper English? haha. Either way, I thank God that you don't have cancer right now, and that you are living a lifestyle that sets an example for others who struggle with our former addictions. Even though I think you are a douche, I cant deny that you are a douche with fucking guts. it aint easy to quit, and most addicts never do. You have, so you have my respect.

I wish you the very best.

If you ever need help, give me a call. PM me for my number.

[LionHeartedGirl]

Pride comes before the fall.

If I had a dollar for every time I had "quit" for 30+ days just to think myself cured I'd have about $30. LB's words mean nothing. He sounds like an obnoxious child.

Lol. Speak for yourself. This isnt an issue of pride. Its an issue of resolve. I don't blame you for using the system that works for you. however, I do condemn you for judging other systems that work.

I've been hearing this "pride cometh before the fall" bullshit since day 1, and yeah, i guess it holds merit in issues of morality. But one doesnt fall when one doesnt climb atop a high pedestal of self righteousness. I quit on Day 1 and I am still on Day 1. Quitting each day. If I fall, and take a dip, I only fall back one day. Its a matter of perspective. I remember 30 days ago when you and your self righteous buddies were swearing up and down that in 30 days I'd be back to packing my lip. Well, its 30 days later and not only have I quit, but I dont remind myself of tobacco and my former addiction by dwelling on it each and every day through roll call. Im not condemning those that do. To each their own. My only question for you, Mrs. Lion almighty, at what point will you finally suck up your pride and admit that I quit on Day 1? Is it Day 30, 60, 100, or will you refuse to take me serious for as long as I refuse to conform to your own methods?

You guys may not even believe me, but I have a wife and a daughter born 5 days ago. My little girl was born to a tobacco free daddy. She will not have to watch me wither of cancer and die. I will celebrate my 30th birthday in a couple of weeks tobacco free, just like I stated a month ago.

Stay on your high horse if you want LionHeart, but as for me and my house, God almighty gave me authority over addiction.

You say pride comes before the fall. If that is the case, I can only fall up. I quit in humility, and with each day, I thank God. I don't need Kill the Can. In fact, the reason I came here to post today, wasn't to thank you. It was to express my appreciation for your efforts. Not because they are the cure all for quitters, but because this is one method out of many that works.

Sounds to me like its you who has a problem with pride. It is you who is looking down your nose at someone just cause I am different than you.

You struggle daily with the question "Will I quit today." I answered that question a month ago. Now my question each day is, "whay will I teach my daughter today, and what will I eat for dinner."

Lol

[Adigg]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

Hey bro, I thank you for your genuine support. Finally someone that aint afraid to meet in the middle.

But I disagree with you. Its not time to part ways. Maybe I dont need you and you dont need me, but future quitters need one of us or the other. You and I both are fighting the same war, and though our methods are different we are on the same team. People like me deserve to have mentors as well. Those who quit tobacco through means other than posting daily roll would also have a record of previous quitters to look up to and take motivation from.

The reason I came back to this site today to post updates wasnt to stick a big "told you so" sign up for all the doubters. It was to to light a beacon of hope for other people who are trying to quit, but who may struggle with the Kill the Can modus operand.

This site is called "Kill the Can" and not "12 steps for tobacco users" meaning that it encompasses more than just a single ideal of how to quit. Kill the can is not a system, but a community. Its not about conforming to a certain belief system. Its about quitting tobacco. If I quit tobacco I have as much a right to be on here posting as the rest of you. If you disagree, I have a bunch of Marine buddies on this site who have offered to back my play at my request, and they will be quick to support me if I call on them.

Some of you guys have really pissed them off by what you have said about me, but I have kept them at bay by reminding them that I instigated the conflict. Yeah, I stirred the pot. I came in here guns blazing and assaulted every belief that many of you hold dear. As a result, many of you hammered on me, and I made many enemies. Rightfully so. I served a purpose. I built community between you. Sometimes a group needs a common enemy in order to band together.

However, the end result speaks louder than words. I am tobacco free. I killed the can. I have counselled with my Marine buddies on this site and they have granted me the right to continue speaking here.

I may seem like you enemy, but I am not. I am just different. Instead of posting roll each day, I go about life tobacco free. Is that so bad? Is that such a sin that I should be kicked out of the "Kick the Can" community?

The reality is, this site has moderators. Those moderators have the right to kick me out anytime they want. They continue to allow me to speak freedom to addicts. Until they silence me, I will continue to set an example of tobacco free living.

God bless each and every one of you!

-LB

You are insecure. Call on your homies. And yes, this is me calling you out. You have no fans.

LOL. "Homies?" What the fuck is that? Call me out if you want. Look who just made a dick of themselves. I don't need backup to deal with someone like you. Just re-read what I wrote in my last post. If you still feel the need to talk shit, stop and read it again until you figure it out.

Lucius

Na na na naaaaaa hey heeey goodbye!

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

Hey bro, I thank you for your genuine support. Finally someone that aint afraid to meet in the middle.

But I disagree with you. Its not time to part ways. Maybe I dont need you and you dont need me, but future quitters need one of us or the other. You and I both are fighting the same war, and though our methods are different we are on the same team. People like me deserve to have mentors as well. Those who quit tobacco through means other than posting daily roll would also have a record of previous quitters to look up to and take motivation from.

The reason I came back to this site today to post updates wasnt to stick a big "told you so" sign up for all the doubters. It was to to light a beacon of hope for other people who are trying to quit, but who may struggle with the Kill the Can modus operand.

This site is called "Kill the Can" and not "12 steps for tobacco users" meaning that it encompasses more than just a single ideal of how to quit. Kill the can is not a system, but a community. Its not about conforming to a certain belief system. Its about quitting tobacco. If I quit tobacco I have as much a right to be on here posting as the rest of you. If you disagree, I have a bunch of Marine buddies on this site who have offered to back my play at my request, and they will be quick to support me if I call on them.

Some of you guys have really pissed them off by what you have said about me, but I have kept them at bay by reminding them that I instigated the conflict. Yeah, I stirred the pot. I came in here guns blazing and assaulted every belief that many of you hold dear. As a result, many of you hammered on me, and I made many enemies. Rightfully so. I served a purpose. I built community between you. Sometimes a group needs a common enemy in order to band together.

However, the end result speaks louder than words. I am tobacco free. I killed the can. I have counselled with my Marine buddies on this site and they have granted me the right to continue speaking here.

I may seem like you enemy, but I am not. I am just different. Instead of posting roll each day, I go about life tobacco free. Is that so bad? Is that such a sin that I should be kicked out of the "Kick the Can" community?

The reality is, this site has moderators. Those moderators have the right to kick me out anytime they want. They continue to allow me to speak freedom to addicts. Until they silence me, I will continue to set an example of tobacco free living.

God bless each and every one of you!

-LB

You are insecure. Call on your homies. And yes, this is me calling you out. You have no fans.

LOL. "Homies?" What the fuck is that? Call me out if you want. Look who just made a dick of themselves. I don't need backup to deal with someone like you. Just re-read what I wrote in my last post. If you still feel the need to talk shit, stop and read it again until you figure it out.

Lucius

[Adigg]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

Hey bro, I thank you for your genuine support. Finally someone that aint afraid to meet in the middle.

But I disagree with you. Its not time to part ways. Maybe I dont need you and you dont need me, but future quitters need one of us or the other. You and I both are fighting the same war, and though our methods are different we are on the same team. People like me deserve to have mentors as well. Those who quit tobacco through means other than posting daily roll would also have a record of previous quitters to look up to and take motivation from.

The reason I came back to this site today to post updates wasnt to stick a big "told you so" sign up for all the doubters. It was to to light a beacon of hope for other people who are trying to quit, but who may struggle with the Kill the Can modus operand.

This site is called "Kill the Can" and not "12 steps for tobacco users" meaning that it encompasses more than just a single ideal of how to quit. Kill the can is not a system, but a community. Its not about conforming to a certain belief system. Its about quitting tobacco. If I quit tobacco I have as much a right to be on here posting as the rest of you. If you disagree, I have a bunch of Marine buddies on this site who have offered to back my play at my request, and they will be quick to support me if I call on them.

Some of you guys have really pissed them off by what you have said about me, but I have kept them at bay by reminding them that I instigated the conflict. Yeah, I stirred the pot. I came in here guns blazing and assaulted every belief that many of you hold dear. As a result, many of you hammered on me, and I made many enemies. Rightfully so. I served a purpose. I built community between you. Sometimes a group needs a common enemy in order to band together.

However, the end result speaks louder than words. I am tobacco free. I killed the can. I have counselled with my Marine buddies on this site and they have granted me the right to continue speaking here.

I may seem like you enemy, but I am not. I am just different. Instead of posting roll each day, I go about life tobacco free. Is that so bad? Is that such a sin that I should be kicked out of the "Kick the Can" community?

The reality is, this site has moderators. Those moderators have the right to kick me out anytime they want. They continue to allow me to speak freedom to addicts. Until they silence me, I will continue to set an example of tobacco free living.

God bless each and every one of you!

-LB

You are insecure. Call on your homies. And yes, this is me calling you out. You have no fans.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

Hey bro, I thank you for your genuine support. Finally someone that aint afraid to meet in the middle.

But I disagree with you. Its not time to part ways. Maybe I dont need you and you dont need me, but future quitters need one of us or the other. You and I both are fighting the same war, and though our methods are different we are on the same team. People like me deserve to have mentors as well. Those who quit tobacco through means other than posting daily roll would also have a record of previous quitters to look up to and take motivation from.

The reason I came back to this site today to post updates wasnt to stick a big "told you so" sign up for all the doubters. It was to to light a beacon of hope for other people who are trying to quit, but who may struggle with the Kill the Can modus operand.

This site is called "Kill the Can" and not "12 steps for tobacco users" meaning that it encompasses more than just a single ideal of how to quit. Kill the can is not a system, but a community. Its not about conforming to a certain belief system. Its about quitting tobacco. If I quit tobacco I have as much a right to be on here posting as the rest of you. If you disagree, I have a bunch of Marine buddies on this site who have offered to back my play at my request, and they will be quick to support me if I call on them.

Some of you guys have really pissed them off by what you have said about me, but I have kept them at bay by reminding them that I instigated the conflict. Yeah, I stirred the pot. I came in here guns blazing and assaulted every belief that many of you hold dear. As a result, many of you hammered on me, and I made many enemies. Rightfully so. I served a purpose. I built community between you. Sometimes a group needs a common enemy in order to band together.

However, the end result speaks louder than words. I am tobacco free. I killed the can. I have counselled with my Marine buddies on this site and they have granted me the right to continue speaking here.

I may seem like you enemy, but I am not. I am just different. Instead of posting roll each day, I go about life tobacco free. Is that so bad? Is that such a sin that I should be kicked out of the "Kick the Can" community?

The reality is, this site has moderators. Those moderators have the right to kick me out anytime they want. They continue to allow me to speak freedom to addicts. Until they silence me, I will continue to set an example of tobacco free living.

God bless each and every one of you!

-LB

[Adigg]

Congrats LD! I am being completely serious, good for you and congrats on your daughter. I know the feeling. Here's the thing, this site isn't for you, we quit a certain way. You have your way, we have ours. It is time to part ways. Anymore responses just highlight any insecurities. You've got this quitting thing down, so no need for us.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

BTW- For the military buddies of mine on the site who support me, I just want to share with you that my daughter Gretchen Ava was born on July 4th! True American baby! She weighed in at 9 lbs 11 oz! It was really a great feeling to know that she would never have to grow up with a daddy that dipped, and the piece of mind I have knowing that I wont be that kind of negative influence on my daughter. To those of you here who have been part of my private network of friends, you have my undying gratitude. Oorah to my fellow marines, and to those other branches that reached out to me, you have my undying brotherhood. I love you all, and I'm glad to call you my friends.

July 4th was an incredible day for me, since my daughter was born, but for whatever reason, it was also really hard. Usually days like that and Veterans day don't bother me, but for some reason, I really struggled. To all of my lost brothers out there, and to those of you who lost your buddies in the line of duty, I salute you! To my dear friends KIA I love you all and thank you for saving my ass on more than one occasion. To those survivors who now look to this site to survive on a different field of battle, I QUIT WITH YOU TODAY!

-Lucius DeBorgia

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Whatever happened to the jagoff?  Pussy.

I wonder the same thing. Your guess is probably the same as mine.

Pussys probably chin dipping like a mad fool. Hope he thinks of us every time he loads his lip. Pussy.

As for you, I guess you feel like a retard now. Lol. Good to know that you are still here thinking about chin dipping every day while I am out doing more productive things with my life.

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

"My response is and will be: See who is on roll call Thursday and who isn't. If I'm not, call me a pussy and a coward and a yellow livered sumbitch." - LUCIOUS

Yep you said these words! And yet I never see you on roll call since.... So I don't think I need to spell out for you what I think you are! I agree that we all walk our own path but if you know the beliefs of this site then I am confused by what you get out of coming on here and trying to discount what people are fighting to do everyday? Don't need this place? Walk!

And you do NOT support your group! Supporting them would mean you post roll with them and are around to encourage them. You cannot even be bothered to log in consistently! You are nothing more then a distraction!

People may be able to quit in different ways but this is the BEST PROVEN way that we have found to work for us. Stop trying to convince people that another way can work, Do you think we haven't all tried other ways on our own? We have and failed! That is why we have chosen to use the accountability of this site and the support it offers!

The success rate is 100% for those that give there word and honor it every day!

I couldnt have said it better myself! Sorry that you are a pussy, and yes, go back to that Thursday and you will see my roll posted. I didnt say a damn thing about Friday. I find it amazing how judgmental pieces of shit like you are towards people who think a little different. You voted for Bush right?

Yeah, I'm tobacco free. So fuck you.
Sorry I dont need a bunch of other addicts to justify myself.

Jesus, what ever happened to people like our founding fathers who werent afraid to go against the herd?

I have to say that the responses so far really shine a very poor light on the Kill the Can community.

For your info, on private messages, I have many supporters within this forum who have supported me and continue to do so. Its a damn shame that people like you are apart of the same family. I guess you probably would have been pissed when Lincoln decided to free the slaves too, huh? I find it very interesting to witness the two very separate communities which exists on this site. One is the PM community that operates in the shadows and requires no public adoration. The other are folks like you.

I'm just glad I'm not living in a culture where people like you are a majority.

I quit, YET AGAIN, with you today.

[AppleJack]

Nevermind

[Lucius_DeBorgia]

Pride comes before the fall.

If I had a dollar for every time I had "quit" for 30+ days just to think myself cured I'd have about $30. LB's words mean nothing. He sounds like an obnoxious child.

Lol. Speak for yourself. This isnt an issue of pride. Its an issue of resolve. I don't blame you for using the system that works for you. however, I do condemn you for judging other systems that work.

I've been hearing this "pride cometh before the fall" bullshit since day 1, and yeah, i guess it holds merit in issues of morality. But one doesnt fall when one doesnt climb atop a high pedestal of self righteousness. I quit on Day 1 and I am still on Day 1. Quitting each day. If I fall, and take a dip, I only fall back one day. Its a matter of perspective. I remember 30 days ago when you and your self righteous buddies were swearing up and down that in 30 days I'd be back to packing my lip. Well, its 30 days later and not only have I quit, but I dont remind myself of tobacco and my former addiction by dwelling on it each and every day through roll call. Im not condemning those that do. To each their own. My only question for you, Mrs. Lion almighty, at what point will you finally suck up your pride and admit that I quit on Day 1? Is it Day 30, 60, 100, or will you refuse to take me serious for as long as I refuse to conform to your own methods?

You guys may not even believe me, but I have a wife and a daughter born 5 days ago. My little girl was born to a tobacco free daddy. She will not have to watch me wither of cancer and die. I will celebrate my 30th birthday in a couple of weeks tobacco free, just like I stated a month ago.

Stay on your high horse if you want LionHeart, but as for me and my house, God almighty gave me authority over addiction.

You say pride comes before the fall. If that is the case, I can only fall up. I quit in humility, and with each day, I thank God. I don't need Kill the Can. In fact, the reason I came here to post today, wasn't to thank you. It was to express my appreciation for your efforts. Not because they are the cure all for quitters, but because this is one method out of many that works.

Sounds to me like its you who has a problem with pride. It is you who is looking down your nose at someone just cause I am different than you.

You struggle daily with the question "Will I quit today." I answered that question a month ago. Now my question each day is, "whay will I teach my daughter today, and what will I eat for dinner."

[jake frawley]

"My response is and will be: See who is on roll call Thursday and who isn't. If I'm not, call me a pussy and a coward and a yellow livered sumbitch." - LUCIOUS

Yep you said these words! And yet I never see you on roll call since.... So I don't think I need to spell out for you what I think you are! I agree that we all walk our own path but if you know the beliefs of this site then I am confused by what you get out of coming on here and trying to discount what people are fighting to do everyday? Don't need this place? Walk!

And you do NOT support your group! Supporting them would mean you post roll with them and are around to encourage them. You cannot even be bothered to log in consistently! You are nothing more then a distraction!

People may be able to quit in different ways but this is the BEST PROVEN way that we have found to work for us. Stop trying to convince people that another way can work, Do you think we haven't all tried other ways on our own? We have and failed! That is why we have chosen to use the accountability of this site and the support it offers!

The success rate is 100% for those that give there word and honor it every day!