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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2010, 05:17:00 PM »
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I gotta believe good things are in your future brother. You might have made mistakes in the past but I will bet your spouse also has culpability. I do know that you are a fine quitter and firmly believe the universe will reward you for having HUGE balls and staying quit although much of your life feels like it is in the crapper right.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 11:40:00 AM »
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I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping. I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage. I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times. I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping. I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can. I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself. I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010. I know that this is THE quit. I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough. I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine. Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them. The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it. I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard). I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call. Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
I figure at 155 days I needed to reflect upon this first introduction...and point out a few things I have learned in order to maybe help other new quitters.

A lot is said about the fear of cancer...people see the pictures of jaws sliced open for removal of tissue, see the scars and deformities left to remind former users of the price they paid for their addiction...

There are other prices that this addiction can cost you. In my introduction, I talked about the lies "nearly ruining my marriage." People might say that the lies are not necessarily related to the addiction to nicotine, it might just be that I am a scumbag. Who knows, maybe that is the reason, but I kind of doubt that.

To update this, I am in the middle of moving out of my house into an apartment and preparing for separation/divorce. My wife has stated that above all, the most damaging thing in our 14.5 years of being married was the daily lies about dipping. Having hid it, told her that I would quit, telling our kids that I would quit...and not keeping my word.

Even though I have been quit for 155 days, the damage has already been done...and the trust has been eaten away over the years of use...of years of lies...just like cancer.

Does this type of thing happen to everyone? No. Not everyone that dips or smokes gets cancer, either. I am sure that many of you are saying, can't possibly happen to me...I know, I was one of those guys...after all, I figured that my wife being a marriage therapist, there was no way my marriage would fail. BUT it can...and the addict mentality is one of the main reasons...addict mentality will keep you willing to lie to yourself and others in order to keep your addiction.

This addiction is not simply about not dipping. For you to be HEALTHY, you have to get rid of the addict mentality...you have to see it for what it is. Don't let it destroy more than just your lip/jaw...
Blah...Blah...Blah...You keep TALKIN....I'll keep QUITTIN

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 10:55:00 AM »
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Hopefully a lot of the new Sept class will read this, as well as June, July and August.

90 days ago I had my last dip...ever. When I say "ever," i mean it in the same sense as "for as long as I live," or "the rest of my life," or "for eternity." That being said, I shared with my June brothers (and anyone else who bothered reading it) that yesterday, at 89 days into my quit, I had the worst crave I had ever experienced - even leading me to nearly panic when i went to buy a can of fake and the store was out. No, I didn't cave, I simply went home, refusing to continue drivig around to all the Wal-Marts to find fake because I knew that this would put me at greater risk of caving.

All along the quit, you will hear people telling you that, "It does get easier." It DOES. Even though the crave yesterday was the worst, most intense crave I have had to date, it was also the easiest to get over - once I took control of the situation, it was not long until my mind was off of the crave and on to other things.

I closed my writing yesterday with the warning - stay alert, the nic bitch is sneakey and she won't give up, even when you are so close to the Hall. In actuality, look around over the past few weeks....you see cavers ranging from not getting past their first 72 hours (it takes approx. 3 days for nicotine to clear your system), to guys with 1000+ days caving. The bitch likes the young as well as the old quitters.

When you think you are strong enough to walk away from this site and manage your quit on your own, you will be wrong. When you think you have seen every type of crave and know how to react to it, you will be wrong. When you think you are done with your quit, that you have defeated your addiction to nicotine, you will be wrong.

Several of us in June have already pledged to each other - in writing for all to see - that we will continue posting roll for AT LEAST the next 100 days past the HOF 100. WE are comitted to staying quit, we are comitted to supporting each other and every other quitter on this site.

Yesterday SmokeyG had some people all pissed off because he asked what they had to offer new quitters that he, QUIT PERSONIFIED, could not. I said it yesterday, as Smokey finally did, too, that the question is, what have you learned about yourself and your quit? What helped you? Can you find it within yourself to do the same for others? When I first came on here, I said I was going to be very active, because I knew that is what I needed in order to be quit...I've realized, that is what we all need. Quitting is a verb, an action word. Quitting is active. You cannot be passive and be quitting. I also said something frequently when I first came to this site:

Stay strong, Stay TRUE, STAY QUIT.

August is now using this as part of their header...glad they saw it as being meaningful. Hope all of you can see the value of living the words.
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 09:42:00 AM »
Hopefully a lot of the new Sept class will read this, as well as June, July and August.

90 days ago I had my last dip...ever. When I say "ever," i mean it in the same sense as "for as long as I live," or "the rest of my life," or "for eternity." That being said, I shared with my June brothers (and anyone else who bothered reading it) that yesterday, at 89 days into my quit, I had the worst crave I had ever experienced - even leading me to nearly panic when i went to buy a can of fake and the store was out. No, I didn't cave, I simply went home, refusing to continue drivig around to all the Wal-Marts to find fake because I knew that this would put me at greater risk of caving.

All along the quit, you will hear people telling you that, "It does get easier." It DOES. Even though the crave yesterday was the worst, most intense crave I have had to date, it was also the easiest to get over - once I took control of the situation, it was not long until my mind was off of the crave and on to other things.

I closed my writing yesterday with the warning - stay alert, the nic bitch is sneakey and she won't give up, even when you are so close to the Hall. In actuality, look around over the past few weeks....you see cavers ranging from not getting past their first 72 hours (it takes approx. 3 days for nicotine to clear your system), to guys with 1000+ days caving. The bitch likes the young as well as the old quitters.

When you think you are strong enough to walk away from this site and manage your quit on your own, you will be wrong. When you think you have seen every type of crave and know how to react to it, you will be wrong. When you think you are done with your quit, that you have defeated your addiction to nicotine, you will be wrong.

Several of us in June have already pledged to each other - in writing for all to see - that we will continue posting roll for AT LEAST the next 100 days past the HOF 100. WE are comitted to staying quit, we are comitted to supporting each other and every other quitter on this site.

Yesterday SmokeyG had some people all pissed off because he asked what they had to offer new quitters that he, QUIT PERSONIFIED, could not. I said it yesterday, as Smokey finally did, too, that the question is, what have you learned about yourself and your quit? What helped you? Can you find it within yourself to do the same for others? When I first came on here, I said I was going to be very active, because I knew that is what I needed in order to be quit...I've realized, that is what we all need. Quitting is a verb, an action word. Quitting is active. You cannot be passive and be quitting. I also said something frequently when I first came to this site:

Stay strong, Stay TRUE, STAY QUIT.

August is now using this as part of their header...glad they saw it as being meaningful. Hope all of you can see the value of living the words.
Blah...Blah...Blah...You keep TALKIN....I'll keep QUITTIN

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 01:24:00 PM »
Day 86

Just before noon, back in the ER at work again. Where was I?

My addiction. Selfishness. Like many of the other quitters on here, I told my wife before we got married that I would quit. Almost 3 years later, when my first son was born, I again lied and said I would quit. I cannot even count the number of times I lied about quitting. And like most of you, I lied to my family AND to MYSELF. I couldn't even admit to myself that I was not capable of quitting. To me, it was always my choice to keep dipping...even if it was just one more time. I can't even remember how many nearly full cans I threw out the window on the drive home between midnight and 0100, telling myself that I was going to quit and the one in my lip right then was the last. Of course, I just stopped on the way to work the next day and bought a new can...and everything was fine because it was my choice...and I'd quit before I medically needed to.

Of course, addict mentality burrows deep into our minds and pervades our actions relating to everything we do...in other words, commen sense goes out the window. In my mind, the answer to my wife asking me to move out was to stop being selfish - she felt (feels) I did not (do not) take care of her/her needs emotionally. That's the kiss of death...especially when you are married to a marriage and family therapist.

So, I thought, quitting...REALLY quitting....would show her how much she meant to me and that I planned on being around to take care of her and my boys. I mean, that would show her that I was putting her needs above my own, right? That was a good thing, right? Well, imagine my fogged confusion when Sensei said, "Um....quit for yourself...nobody else." WTF? I figured, "Whatever. I'll nod, say OK and keep doing what I am doing and believing what I believe."

Around day 60-65 things started to make a bit more sense. Not realy because of anything specific I learned on this site, but more from the fact that my wife has continued to be distant and although I am still living in the house and sleeping in my bedroom, it has been more a roommate environment than marriage. The realization hit that if this quit was about my wife, I might as well say, "Forget it," and stick a big pinch of Cope in. Luckily for me, somewhere between my first post and this point I had obviously subconsciously come to the conclusion that this quit was mine and it was for and about me...selfish, yes. Essential? Absolutely.

I think it was about then I commented that I didn't know which was harder, keeping a marriage or quitting dip. The marriage is harder. And I realized that there was not a single thing dipping would do to make my other problems easier or better. I had said that I knew that this quit was THE QUIT...it was the real thing. At day 86, I can tell you that is still the case. Even after seeing vets whose member # is in the 100s cave, I am confident....I know that I cannot do this without holding myself accountable to the site...I cannot leave here and do this on my own...more importantly, I WON'T even attempt to leave here and do it on my own. No matter what happens in my marriage, I am quit...this is about me, as selfish as it might sound. I come on here and spew all kinds of stuff...sometimes it sonds funny, sometimes I'm sure it might sound very self-righteous, sometimes I might sound like I am out to just bust peoples balls or, as one new member put it, impress the vets or look cool. Most of the time I say what I say because it makes me focus on what I need to do.

OK....train of thought has been interrupted so many times, can't even follow my own stuff...1330...took me over an hour and a half to write this....between patients, of course. See, so comitted to my quit, I'm working it at work!
Blah...Blah...Blah...You keep TALKIN....I'll keep QUITTIN

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 08:05:00 AM »
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Quote from: CoachDoc
Day 85 -

I am sitting in th ER writing this after reading back over my intorduction.  I remember the first time I looked at the responses I got - especially the one from Sensei telling me to make this quit about me.  I thought, "What the fuck?  How can making this about doing it for my wife be a bad thing?"  After all, it was her asking me to move out that made me realize how low I had sunk...

Dipping was a symptom of the problem.  The problem was selfishness.  I wanted my dip.  I wanted my time to dip.  I wanted my money to buy my dip.  And it was my addiction to nicotine that made me willing to lie, cheat and steal to get my fix.  I was willing for a long time to sacrifice my family - wife and kids - for my addiction.

Patients coming in...gotta finish this later...hehe...real life calls
I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the story.........

'Popcorn'
Thanks for writing this Doc...I thought I was the only one who lied to their wife about dipping...money...where I was....where I was going....other women...

I guess we're all selfish and have to be selfish in our quits. I know that I've been honest for 67 days with myself and my wife and it's made the difference.

I could have written this post...except for the gay male ER nurse part of course...
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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 01:43:00 AM »
Quote from: CoachDoc
Day 85 -

I am sitting in th ER writing this after reading back over my intorduction. I remember the first time I looked at the responses I got - especially the one from Sensei telling me to make this quit about me. I thought, "What the fuck? How can making this about doing it for my wife be a bad thing?" After all, it was her asking me to move out that made me realize how low I had sunk...

Dipping was a symptom of the problem. The problem was selfishness. I wanted my dip. I wanted my time to dip. I wanted my money to buy my dip. And it was my addiction to nicotine that made me willing to lie, cheat and steal to get my fix. I was willing for a long time to sacrifice my family - wife and kids - for my addiction.

Patients coming in...gotta finish this later...hehe...real life calls
I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the story.........

'Popcorn'

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 11:54:00 PM »
Day 85 -

I am sitting in th ER writing this after reading back over my intorduction. I remember the first time I looked at the responses I got - especially the one from Sensei telling me to make this quit about me. I thought, "What the fuck? How can making this about doing it for my wife be a bad thing?" After all, it was her asking me to move out that made me realize how low I had sunk...

Dipping was a symptom of the problem. The problem was selfishness. I wanted my dip. I wanted my time to dip. I wanted my money to buy my dip. And it was my addiction to nicotine that made me willing to lie, cheat and steal to get my fix. I was willing for a long time to sacrifice my family - wife and kids - for my addiction.

Patients coming in...gotta finish this later...hehe...real life calls
Blah...Blah...Blah...You keep TALKIN....I'll keep QUITTIN

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 12:38:00 PM »
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: sensei
Quote from: Lochi21
Quote from: bman50317
Quote from: CoachDoc
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping.  I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage.  I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times.  I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping.  I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can.  I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself.  I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010.  I know that this is THE quit.  I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough.  I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine.  Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them.  The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it.  I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard).  I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call.  Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Congrats on your quit but after reading your post I can tell you NEED the information on this site more than you know right now. Keep reading. Plan to spend a couple of hours of the next few days reading everything you can on this site. There is more motivation in here than you can imagine.

Dan's right - you need a quit plan....a plan for what you do when the cravings are fuckin' intense and you feel like you're going to cave. Here's one that a guy (Chewie) sent me that I found to be excellent:

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1
Coach,

If I can make a suggestion. Make this quit about YOU and ONLY YOU. It is time to step up and own this quit.

If you are quitting for someone else, your chances of true success are Slim....

And Slim just left town.

You can do this!
I agree Coach, do it for YOU. It is kind of hard to take a revenge dip against yourself.
My quit was soo much NOT for my wife that I did not even tell her I quit for 20 days. I think I kind of pissed her off cuz I was spending ALL my time with her...she was like "go the fuck downstairs and leave me alone"
Print this and carry it with you for at least the next 100 days. Then you must read it, sign it, and give copies to your family before you cave.

Contract to Give Up
dam good advice men. does ole mule proud to see such pearls of quittin wisdom.

well done.

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 07:36:00 AM »
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: sensei
Quote from: Lochi21
Quote from: bman50317
Quote from: CoachDoc
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping.  I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage.  I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times.  I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping.  I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can.  I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself.  I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010.  I know that this is THE quit.  I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough.  I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine.  Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them.  The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it.  I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard).  I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call.  Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Congrats on your quit but after reading your post I can tell you NEED the information on this site more than you know right now. Keep reading. Plan to spend a couple of hours of the next few days reading everything you can on this site. There is more motivation in here than you can imagine.

Dan's right - you need a quit plan....a plan for what you do when the cravings are fuckin' intense and you feel like you're going to cave. Here's one that a guy (Chewie) sent me that I found to be excellent:

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1
Coach,

If I can make a suggestion. Make this quit about YOU and ONLY YOU. It is time to step up and own this quit.

If you are quitting for someone else, your chances of true success are Slim....

And Slim just left town.

You can do this!
I agree Coach, do it for YOU. It is kind of hard to take a revenge dip against yourself.
My quit was soo much NOT for my wife that I did not even tell her I quit for 20 days. I think I kind of pissed her off cuz I was spending ALL my time with her...she was like "go the fuck downstairs and leave me alone"
Print this and carry it with you for at least the next 100 days. Then you must read it, sign it, and give copies to your family before you cave.

Contract to Give Up
"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 09:55:00 AM »
Quote from: sensei
Quote from: Lochi21
Quote from: bman50317
Quote from: CoachDoc
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping.  I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage.  I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times.  I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping.  I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can.  I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself.  I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010.  I know that this is THE quit.  I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough.  I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine.  Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them.  The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it.  I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard).  I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call.  Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Congrats on your quit but after reading your post I can tell you NEED the information on this site more than you know right now. Keep reading. Plan to spend a couple of hours of the next few days reading everything you can on this site. There is more motivation in here than you can imagine.

Dan's right - you need a quit plan....a plan for what you do when the cravings are fuckin' intense and you feel like you're going to cave. Here's one that a guy (Chewie) sent me that I found to be excellent:

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1
Coach,

If I can make a suggestion. Make this quit about YOU and ONLY YOU. It is time to step up and own this quit.

If you are quitting for someone else, your chances of true success are Slim....

And Slim just left town.

You can do this!
I agree Coach, do it for YOU. It is kind of hard to take a revenge dip against yourself.
My quit was soo much NOT for my wife that I did not even tell her I quit for 20 days. I think I kind of pissed her off cuz I was spending ALL my time with her...she was like "go the fuck downstairs and leave me alone"

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 09:43:00 AM »
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I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping.  I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage.  I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times.  I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping.  I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can.  I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself.  I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010.  I know that this is THE quit.  I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough.  I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine.  Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them.  The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it.  I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard).  I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call.  Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Congrats on your quit but after reading your post I can tell you NEED the information on this site more than you know right now. Keep reading. Plan to spend a couple of hours of the next few days reading everything you can on this site. There is more motivation in here than you can imagine.

Dan's right - you need a quit plan....a plan for what you do when the cravings are fuckin' intense and you feel like you're going to cave. Here's one that a guy (Chewie) sent me that I found to be excellent:

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1
Coach,

If I can make a suggestion. Make this quit about YOU and ONLY YOU. It is time to step up and own this quit.

If you are quitting for someone else, your chances of true success are Slim....

And Slim just left town.

You can do this!

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 08:33:00 AM »
Quote from: bman50317
Quote from: CoachDoc
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping.  I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage.  I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times.  I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping.  I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can.  I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself.  I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010.  I know that this is THE quit.  I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough.  I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine.  Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them.  The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it.  I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard).  I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call.  Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Congrats on your quit but after reading your post I can tell you NEED the information on this site more than you know right now. Keep reading. Plan to spend a couple of hours of the next few days reading everything you can on this site. There is more motivation in here than you can imagine.

Dan's right - you need a quit plan....a plan for what you do when the cravings are fuckin' intense and you feel like you're going to cave. Here's one that a guy (Chewie) sent me that I found to be excellent:

chewie's 3 step cave plan

Feel free to copy and modify to fit your needs.

step 1: Take picture of son out of wallet. Look my son in the face and tell him that I love dip more than I love him.

step 2: Take out KillTheCan.org business card, read the words and REALIZE that I'm letting each and every one of YOU down.

step 3: Call each of the 100+ KillTheCan.org phone numbers that I've got in my phone and get PERMISSION from each and every person to have a dip.

P.S.: I've never had to go past step 1

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Re: First Post - 5? Quit
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 07:50:00 AM »
Quote from: CoachDoc
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping. I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage. I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times. I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping. I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can. I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself. I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010. I know that this is THE quit. I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough. I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine. Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them. The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it. I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard). I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call. Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Congrats on a great decision! You are through the physical part, now comes the mental fuck. Stay close to this site and you will find success. If you want it, you will do it. Start developing a quit plan and make the committment to yourself to quit this nasty addicition. Quitting is not easy and in my opinion is much easier with the support of others. You will find lots of support here.

Again congrats on the decision and let me know if you need anything.
Time heals but I'm forever broken

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First Post - 5? Quit
« on: March 02, 2010, 11:18:00 PM »
I found this site when looking for alternatives to dipping. I've been dipping for the past 15-20 years and it has been a major factor in nearly ruining my marriage. I'd promised my wife and kids that I would quit, multiple times. I would hide the cans, lie to my wife and kids about dipping. I knew that my wife was hurt by the dipping so I tried to tell her what she wanted to hear and still keep the can. I wasn't willing to see tha the lies were more damaging than the dip itself. I have not had a dip of Cope since Thursday, Feb. 25, 2010. I know that this is THE quit. I have never gone more than 2 days without and the craving has been tough. I think that for me the true difficulty comes from not having something in my mouth, less the nicotine. Gum, mints and seeds have been helpful, especially if I cheek them. The first 2 days were very tough - trying to figure out how to buy a can and just hide it. I thought of how this would likely end my marriage and take me away from my 4 boys and the decision was made a lot easier (but still hard). I plan to post here regularly...need to read more of the site and figure out the role-call. Thanks to all of you here...

- Dan
Blah...Blah...Blah...You keep TALKIN....I'll keep QUITTIN

I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to support YOUR quit.


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