22 years - time to stop

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These are kind of old, I had them stashed somewhere collecting dust. Maybe they can help here...

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The Latest On Quit Nic Drugs Chantix and Zyban

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[Notdeadyet]

I have heard crazy stories about Chantix before. It's up to you, but I'd personally stay away. Even if it helps real well, the stuff I've heard doesn't make it seem worth the risk.

I don't know if possible on Chantix, but I also want to remember these 8 days of shit-quit and look back on it as something I never want to go through again.

Great job on your quit so far K5! I'm a 38 year dipper on my 20th day of quit. I'm thinking that after having something in my mouth for 38 years that I'm probably always going to have something in my mouth. The good thing is now it doesn't have to be dip - I have a choice! I'm still new to this but let me try to answer your questions:

1. You will never "beat" this thing. You are a Nicotine addict. One slip and you are back to day one. That is why we quit one day at a time, every day. Post roll and commit to quit. Do it every morning. It really does help to keep you focused and more importantly not let you forget you are an addict and always will be.

2. You've had something in your mouth for 25 years. I bet you'll need something in your mouth for a long time after quiting. But at least you can choose something better than poison. Sunflower seeds, gum, tea bags, fake snuff, etc. all can help. The hard core Nic attacks will get fewer and fewer but be careful because they can jump up out of the blue even after years of quit. The need or habit of having somehting in your mouth is something that hopefully you can differentiate from a Nic craving and satisfy with something else.

3. Quitting is absolutely possible and we do it every day! Thing is, you have to be committed. There is no other choice but to admit you are an addict and never let any Nic in your body again. Fight it with anger and accept who you are!

P.S. - my buddy, who is dying of stomach cancer and inspired me to finally quit this crap, tried Chantix about 3 months before being diagnosed with cancer. The Chantix made him violently ill for 2 weeks then he stopped. I sure hope it was dip and not Chantix that gave him the cancer...

[Timeless117]

I have heard crazy stories about Chantix before. It's up to you, but I'd personally stay away. Even if it helps real well, the stuff I've heard doesn't make it seem worth the risk.

I don't know if possible on Chantix, but I also want to remember these 8 days of shit-quit and look back on it as something I never want to go through again.

[Fla_K5]

Well after 25 years of the can, I have been clean for 3 weeks. Never in a million years did I think this was possible.

My experience so far --days 3-21 (current) have been pretty much the same. Nothing has really changed since the initial shock of days 1-3. I still have the same urges and craving as I did any other day. Yes, some times are worse than others.

What helps me? Cinnamon hard candy/gum and the fake dip. I always have one of these things in my mouth.

My thoughts lately -

1. I have not even started to beat this thing because I still have not been “tested” very hard – major triggers like major stress event, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. When do constant cravings stop?
3. I know for sure quitting can be doneÂ…it is possible... which is good!

Dr has prescribed Chantix to helpÂ… but I have not taken it. Experts - do you think I shouldÂ…since I have been weeks now without anything? I heard that Chantix can make you crazy.

[whacko]

I havenÂ’t posted roll yet because First, IÂ’m not sure how. Second, IÂ’m still chewing around 2-3 pieces of nic gun each day to help with the first week. From what I read, itÂ’s not official until I drop the replacement nicÂ…..even though it is only a small fraction of the nic my body is used to each day. I understand the logic and Yes, YesÂ… I understand IÂ’m prolonging the pain.

But to meÂ….as long as a dip doesnÂ’t go into my mouthÂ… IÂ’m successful in my eyes. I plan to drop the gum all together in the next few days. I was never one of those people that could just quit for a few daysÂ…. Few weeks or even a few years and then just randomly start doing it again. I dipped every single day for the last 22-25 yearsÂ…. never skipped one single dayÂ…. I couldnÂ’t.

It still blows my mind how some people I know only dip while doing a certain activity like hunting, fishing. They can put it away for weeks at a time and then take a dip or two when they are back doing their favorite activity. I never understood how people can do thatÂ….

Day 4 – pretty much the same as the last 2 days. My sense of taste is so much better… I ate a peach yesterday and was amazed.

What has helped me so far – reading a lot of other stories on this web site and Smokey Mountain fake snuff.

Man the nic replacement gum is gonna get you just as bad as the tobacco! I just replied this on another poster that talked about the gum!

No shit......I know a guy that quit with nic gum......instead of a $30 a week addiction to skoal he now has a $50 addiction to nicorette!

You are just fooling yourself. And as far as saying "I was a 22 - 25 year dipper without missing a day".....that is just your addiction to nic talking! You are telling yourself you are successful in your eyes cuz its not dip?!?!?!? There are plenty of 20 plus year dippers on this site that quit cold turkey! If you are using nic gum you are not quit! It is the same as any other drug addict just going from one method to another! Just quit!

I am not saying this without experience.....I used the gum for 2 days and learned quick from the guys here that it is still feeding the addiction! I quit the gum after that......you need to as well!

[G]

Day 10 –

I’m very proud of myself – 10 days without a dip. Actually haven't used the nic gum for the last 4 days . I would have never dreamed after 22+ years of doing a can every single day.

What I have learned –

Day 1-2 – yes they suck the worse

Day 3-10 – pretty much the same. Smokey mountain snuff has helped a lot for me. Candy and gum as well.

Mind games - I have had a few instances over the last few days where the “one dip won’t hurt anything” came into my head. Had to fight it off real hard. I guess we all start to get a little too confident after a week or so without dip… I figure one dip won’t hurt and I can stop anytime now. Wrong. This sounds real bad but I feel like I deserve a dip in a way… or if I do take a dip I’m not a complete failure because I have made some real progress. I know this is wrong… and all you die hard 6 month guys relax….. I’m just reporting what is going through my head right now. Again… I was 22+ years solid with the stuff in my mouth.

I have also learned that I’m still very far from being “out of the woods” Thought like above and also I haven’t had a “real test” yet as far as stress or triggering events like hunting/fishing. We’ll see …. Either way I know it’s going to take months… maybe years to whip this thing completely.

Then you're on day 4 here at the "no-nicotine" site. I hope you haven't been posting roll while using the nic gum.

[Fla_K5]

Day 10 –

I’m very proud of myself – 10 days without a dip. Actually haven't used the nic gum for the last 4 days . I would have never dreamed after 22+ years of doing a can every single day.

What I have learned –

Day 1-2 – yes they suck the worse

Day 3-10 – pretty much the same. Smokey mountain snuff has helped a lot for me. Candy and gum as well.

Mind games - I have had a few instances over the last few days where the “one dip won’t hurt anything” came into my head. Had to fight it off real hard. I guess we all start to get a little too confident after a week or so without dip… I figure one dip won’t hurt and I can stop anytime now. Wrong. This sounds real bad but I feel like I deserve a dip in a way… or if I do take a dip I’m not a complete failure because I have made some real progress. I know this is wrong… and all you die hard 6 month guys relax….. I’m just reporting what is going through my head right now. Again… I was 22+ years solid with the stuff in my mouth.

I have also learned that I’m still very far from being “out of the woods” Thought like above and also I haven’t had a “real test” yet as far as stress or triggering events like hunting/fishing. We’ll see …. Either way I know it’s going to take months… maybe years to whip this thing completely.

[Bowman]

Throw the nic replacement shit away right now.  Believe me.  I was one that started using the patch.  After several tongue lashings from several of my new brothers, I ripped it off and threw them out.  That was singularly the best decision I have made in a long, long time.

That was three weeks ago.  We have all gone through the suck.  And, it does suck.  But, as each day passes, you'll begin to think a little more clearly anf feel better about your life.

Throw the fucking gum out, NOW!!


Goto Welcome Center to learn how to post roll call.

What whsii said.

You are addicted to nicotine. Whether you get your fix from cigarettes, dip, cigars, gum, patches, or nicotine laced lollipops, it does not matter. Your body and brain will not be able to heal itself until you stop putting nicotine in your system. Why prolong that process?

I would very much like to quit with you. Throw out the gum. Post Day 1 over in December. Take the plunge. You can do this. You will not regret this decision.

[Wild_Bill]

Throw the nic replacement shit away right now. Believe me. I was one that started using the patch. After several tongue lashings from several of my new brothers, I ripped it off and threw them out. That was singularly the best decision I have made in a long, long time.

That was three weeks ago. We have all gone through the suck. And, it does suck. But, as each day passes, you'll begin to think a little more clearly anf feel better about your life.

Throw the fucking gum out, NOW!!


Goto Welcome Center to learn how to post roll call.

[Fla_K5]

I havenÂ’t posted roll yet because First, IÂ’m not sure how. Second, IÂ’m still chewing around 2-3 pieces of nic gun each day to help with the first week. From what I read, itÂ’s not official until I drop the replacement nicÂ…..even though it is only a small fraction of the nic my body is used to each day. I understand the logic and Yes, YesÂ… I understand IÂ’m prolonging the pain.

But to meÂ….as long as a dip doesnÂ’t go into my mouthÂ… IÂ’m successful in my eyes. I plan to drop the gum all together in the next few days. I was never one of those people that could just quit for a few daysÂ…. Few weeks or even a few years and then just randomly start doing it again. I dipped every single day for the last 22-25 yearsÂ…. never skipped one single dayÂ…. I couldnÂ’t.

It still blows my mind how some people I know only dip while doing a certain activity like hunting, fishing. They can put it away for weeks at a time and then take a dip or two when they are back doing their favorite activity. I never understood how people can do thatÂ….

Day 4 – pretty much the same as the last 2 days. My sense of taste is so much better… I ate a peach yesterday and was amazed.

What has helped me so far – reading a lot of other stories on this web site and Smokey Mountain fake snuff.

[per034]

Seems I'm following Jay around...

Did I miss something? Did you say you were relying on the fake stuff AND nicotine gum to get you through?

Maybe I missed it... I mean... I read this thread. Maybe skimmed a few posts... but I think I read most of it. And I'm pretty sure you're still using nicorette. You need to quit that shit.

Common misconception. You are NOT ADDICTED TO DIP. You ARE addicted to nicotine. That gum has nicotine in it. If you're still using that gum, you are only delaying the inevitable cave. Trust me. I did this. I paid $43 for a box of nicorette to support my quit. It did shit. It was the most expensive can of dip I purchased.

If you really want to kill the can, you gotta kill the bitch.. and she comes in many forms (including gum).

If you need anything PM me... but you need to be COMPLETELY nicotine free to earn the support of this site

Again - if I missed something, I apologize...

[Gump]

Look, I am on Day 2 - so therefore I know absolutely nothing about all this. I told everybody I know that I have quit. I am one of those who cannot stand to be seen as a failure, so I thought maybe if everyone knew about it, they would become even more motivation. Most of my coworkers smoke and they are all older than me - part of me wants to prove that it is possible. Most of me just wants to get through today, and I will worry about tomorrow when I wake up.

THAT, Jaymodill, my new friend, is just exactly how this works. It's the ONLY way this works.

You post roll today. You make a promise to everyone here that you will not use nicotine in any form TODAY. There is no promise about "tomorrow", or "soon". There is no "will quit". There is no "hope", or "try", or "give it a good shot".

There is only QUIT... NOW... TODAY, and for the whole day, nicotine free.


And you think about tomorrow...tomorrow.

[Jaymodill]

Look, I am on Day 2 - so therefore I know absolutely nothing about all this. I told everybody I know that I have quit. I am one of those who cannot stand to be seen as a failure, so I thought maybe if everyone knew about it, they would become even more motivation. Most of my coworkers smoke and they are all older than me - part of me wants to prove that it is possible. Most of me just wants to get through today, and I will worry about tomorrow when I wake up.

[Radman]

You've got some strong quit going on. I don't see you posting in December roll call. Did I miss something?
See link below:
December 2011 HOF