cold turkey?

[Erussell]

The Vets said there was gonna be days like this. Lol

[Diesel2112]

That would be me Jake...normally when i bullshit with someone that i have recently pm'd to bury the hatchet and they still can't take any thing...then try the old "don't flatter yourself" after the defended everything they said and got defensive about everything i said...yeah i'm on top.

See Diesel...you may not know it, but i'm helping you....you get all worked up over dumb shit, see you need to work on that. are you breathing? or are you sitting on the other end fuming because i tried to have an intelligent conversation with you and proceed it with a little friendly jab? deep breaths my quit brother... :unsure:

There's no fight here and I'm not mad. Never was. If there were and i was, you would know it.

You also fought everything I said until T said something....THEN you agreed with me, go back and read. But whatever.

You're not helping me and I don't get all worked up over dumb shit. Did I blow a gasket here and not know it?

I'm done wasting my time with petty bickering.

When I feel strongly about something I get worked up.

This isn't worth my time nor energy.

Like I said, when I see your name I'm just gonna move along. Enough of this Jr. High drama. I have better things to do. This really is a waste of time.

Diesel signing off your thread for the last time.

Stay quit.

[jayd41]

That would be me Jake...normally when i bullshit with someone that i have recently pm'd to bury the hatchet and they still can't take any thing...then try the old "don't flatter yourself" after the defended everything they said and got defensive about everything i said...yeah i'm on top.

See Diesel...you may not know it, but i'm helping you....you get all worked up over dumb shit, see you need to work on that. are you breathing? or are you sitting on the other end fuming because i tried to have an intelligent conversation with you and proceed it with a little friendly jab? deep breaths my quit brother... :unsure:

[jake frawley]

'tough'

Who's on top? You guys are awesome! I'm staying out of this one.......

[Diesel2112]

wasn't disagreeing...just had a different insight i thought...oh well. and easy killer...i didn't disagree with you or say that you meant to avoid all triggers all the time, and i thought i was kidding...does something about my name just get your blood boiling? Did i wrong you in another life brother (name that movie reference)? I was simply making an observation about triggers and wanted to give my perspective on my intro page...seriously man, you talk more shit and jump all over peoples shit more than anyone on this site...and i make a little joke at you and you get all offended...if you can't handle a joke then stop parading around here like the resident bad ass.

Trauma, thank you for your response.

I wasn't offended by a single word you said. Don't flatter yourself. And I never claim to be any kind of bad ass. In fact I often say I'm the biggest pussy ktc has ever seen.

Also I encourage more than I supposedly "jump in their shit". I'm just very emotional and protective of the principles of this site.

Go blow or out your ass, I know, that's sooo 80's right?

[jayd41]

you know diesel you could fuck up a wet dream....jesus h, i was AGREEING with you about being smart...I wasn't jumping your shit about what you said...thats your take thats fine, no arguments...i just had a perspective just like you ALWAYS do and wanted to share it...

[traumagnet]

I think what Diesel is saying is becareful no sense taking risks, it starts out with your fingers in the bitch then your face down in the crotch of a can.  I stayed away from everything in the beginning I knew I was a weak ass when it came to dippin so for me the best thing I could do is try the activity w/o booze just the activity then move to trying the activity w booze just to see how I did.  Plus I let peeps know, not under any circumstances am I allowed to dip it is not ok.

I really think Diesel is just trying to look out for you.  Friendly advice nothing more.

Exactly what I'm trying to say.

This cat doesn't like me, which is fine. Not everybody has to.

Well being an old bastard what I have learned in life is that we can learn from everyone. Even the popcorn eaters in the back ground

[jayd41]

wasn't disagreeing...just had a different insight i thought...oh well. and easy killer...i didn't disagree with you or say that you meant to avoid all triggers all the time, and i thought i was kidding...does something about my name just get your blood boiling? Did i wrong you in another life brother (name that movie reference)? I was simply making an observation about triggers and wanted to give my perspective on my intro page...seriously man, you talk more shit and jump all over peoples shit more than anyone on this site...and i make a little joke at you and you get all offended...if you can't handle a joke then stop parading around here like the resident bad ass.

Trauma, thank you for your response.

[Erussell]

'Popcorn'

[Diesel2112]

I think what Diesel is saying is becareful no sense taking risks, it starts out with your fingers in the bitch then your face down in the crotch of a can. I stayed away from everything in the beginning I knew I was a weak ass when it came to dippin so for me the best thing I could do is try the activity w/o booze just the activity then move to trying the activity w booze just to see how I did. Plus I let peeps know, not under any circumstances am I allowed to dip it is not ok.

I really think Diesel is just trying to look out for you. Friendly advice nothing more.

Exactly what I'm trying to say.

This cat doesn't like me, which is fine. Not everybody has to.

[traumagnet]

I think what Diesel is saying is becareful no sense taking risks, it starts out with your fingers in the bitch then your face down in the crotch of a can. I stayed away from everything in the beginning I knew I was a weak ass when it came to dippin so for me the best thing I could do is try the activity w/o booze just the activity then move to trying the activity w booze just to see how I did. Plus I let peeps know, not under any circumstances am I allowed to dip it is not ok.

I really think Diesel is just trying to look out for you. Friendly advice nothing more.

[Diesel2112]

NOBODY said AVOID triggers simply tackle them smartly. A lot of vets say stay away from alcohol for awhile, you better jump in their shit next time.

You make it sound like I'm saying NEVER do certain things again. Simply not true.

Also, I can't follow every fucking new person who joins the site. What the fuck. Guess that means I'm getting soft, eh?

From now on when I see your name I'm just gonna move along.

I think you're one of the few people on this site I just can't mix with.

[KC_Guy]

I agree but like Waste said, u gotta be smart about it. 

2 days quit taking a 3 hr drive to golf with your cigar smoking buddies for a booze and stripper  fueled weekend could kill a man.  Not literally but you get my drift. 

Sure you gotta live life as its one big trigger but you also have to look at things realistically.

Nobody says avoid triggers forever, when a quits extremely wet behind the ears, they may not have the tools to deal with super strong triggers.  Over time you acquire the tools and bash the fuck out of them.

Just gotta know your limits and be smart about it. 

That's my squirt of piss that I'm sure nobody cares about....lol

I understand what you are saying diesel...however, no matter what stage you are on in your quit, you are going to face triggers...on day one, if you read through this site as much as you should, the tools are there...i had erussells # and a butt load of info and tools, i'm not saying it's easy because it's not, but i had the tools the minute i got onto this site and read.

I think you touched on something that strikes a nerve (not in a bad way and i'm not trying to insight world war 3 on here like i have in the past)...but when you say look at things realistically...yeah you don't want to take a tour of a damn tobacco factory but being realistic is what brought on my mini rant...life is real, i love hanging with my buddies too much to give that up because it might be a potential trigger...yeah it's hard, but it's my quit...not theirs. The minute one joins this site the are owning their quit or at least they should, and owning it is the reason jake isn't caving at work, or kc didn't cave when he lost his job...day 1---day 365---if you own it then there is no trigger

Amen quit brother Amen. You gotta own your quit to get through the rough times. Keep it up brother. Each day we are winning.

[jayd41]

Avoiding the triggers to me is almost the same as using a patch to quit....no matter when you decide to face your trigger(s) its going to be difficult.

And i'm not talking all big and bad (i find huge irony that you diesel called me out on that) i'm stating that when you give validity to your triggers, it's more of an excuse to cave.


"hey pot (that would be me) your black" thanks kettle (that would be diesel)" although i sense you softening up a bit in your old age...a few of these youngin's have gotten away with some shit without you calling them out....whats the deal man? losing your edge?

[Diesel2112]

As much as i do like my job and look forward to maybe owning my own lot one day soon...the down time that a car salesman addicted to nicotine adds an extra little obstacle! Boredom is and will always be my biggest trigger, along with about 100 others...luckily i have this board to keep my company! It also wouldn't hurt if someone would come buy a fuckin car off of me!

I quit with you all for the next hour...

Bro ..this is the reality of where you were when you first quit. It took you a day to learn to post roll. Nobody can acquire all the tools on day one.

Also, nobody said STOP living your life, just that you may need to pump the brakes a bit when yoi first take off. Small price to pay for freedom if you ask me.

Easy to talk big and bad (I do it all the time ) after you have a full tool belt, but when you first get here, you just want to SURVIVE for a little while.

Need proof go back and re read your own thread.