Gelas Has Fallen

[Dr. Bruce Banner]

Thanks everybody. I know not to post on roll call until I've quit nicotine, not just dip, and that's why I posted here.

My plan was to continue the lozenges until Thursday night, then on Friday morning post roll call. That way I can be sick at home, not at work- at least for the initial withdrawal.

I've also made my own fake dip from crushed raisins (I always thought chew had a raisin-y smell) coffee grounds and habanero Tabasco sauce (for the burn). It's pretty good.

Thanks also for the advice about not romanticizing dip- the more I do, the more I feel like it is impossible to quit. I need to start seeing it for what it is.

On a positive note, my mouth feels so much better already.

In case anyone is interested, my tobacco use has been:

14-18: 15-20 Cigarettes per week, occasional dip with friends

18-27: Kodiak Ice then Grizzly Mint, about a tin every other day and a pack of smokes every two days

28: Tin a day of Grizzly Mint, occasional cigarette while social drinking

only interested in when and how you are going to quit!

[Ready]

You must want this more than anything else in your life at this moment. It will be very uncomfortable at first. Then things will get better as long as you remain quit. You have no idea how great things will be when you are nicotine free. Right now, wether you know it or not, you are a slave.

If your word of honor means anything, you can do this.

Balls in your court.

[Gelas]

Thanks everybody. I know not to post on roll call until I've quit nicotine, not just dip, and that's why I posted here.

My plan was to continue the lozenges until Thursday night, then on Friday morning post roll call. That way I can be sick at home, not at work- at least for the initial withdrawal.

I've also made my own fake dip from crushed raisins (I always thought chew had a raisin-y smell) coffee grounds and habanero Tabasco sauce (for the burn). It's pretty good.

Thanks also for the advice about not romanticizing dip- the more I do, the more I feel like it is impossible to quit. I need to start seeing it for what it is.

On a positive note, my mouth feels so much better already.

In case anyone is interested, my tobacco use has been:

14-18: 15-20 Cigarettes per week, occasional dip with friends, moving up to a pack-a-day by the age of 18

18-27: Kodiak Ice then Grizzly Mint, about a tin every other day and a pack of smokes every two days

28: Tin a day of Grizzly Mint, occasional cigarette while social drinking

[Maverick55]

I give you guys so much credit for being quit, so I'm sorry if my references to dip as "delicious" were insulting. Dip is horrible, horrible stuff. We all know that. But maybe I should wait until I have a more serious conviction before I quit the lozenges? I mean, I have to work all week. With teenagers. Are the withdrawal affects so bad that I should call in sick?

Gelas, you'll receive a significant amount of shit on this site for using a crutch of any sort - though the debate ranges on all forms. The one constant you will hear is that we don't want you posting role with any form of nicotine in your system - that includes lozenges, patches, anal suppositories or any other form of the drug. That being said, you don't need that shit. Make the decision to quit, grab your nuts and make a commitment to this group and be a man of your word - thats all there is to it.

As for choosing the best time - its here and now. There won't be a better time, and you'll always find an excuse of some sort. Everyone here has had to battle the first week during whatever it is that they do for a living. Not to insult you, but dealing with teenagers, while stressful I have no doubt, is nothing compared to some of our brothers in the military who've quit while on duty in Iraq/Afghanistan - tons of respect for you guys btw.

Throw out the gum, post role, join us - you'll have 6,000 plus allies in your fight. If you decide to keep dipping for now and come back at a better time we'll write you off - you won't be back.

Make the right choice.

[minuteofangle]

WOW! Gelas you got the attention of some heavy lifters here: Loot, Red Train, Dr. Banner....You must have struck a nerve....Get to quitting son you DEFINATELY got the right support!
MOA

[Dr. Bruce Banner]

I give you guys so much credit for being quit, so I'm sorry if my references to dip as "delicious" were insulting. Dip is horrible, horrible stuff. We all know that. But maybe I should wait until I have a more serious conviction before I quit the lozenges? I mean, I have to work all week. With teenagers. Are the withdrawal affects so bad that I should call in sick?

They are bad! As bad as a headache! As bad as feeling dizzy! As bad as being constipated! as bad as cramps, sweat, rage, depression......only thing to make it all better is to have a stronger commitment! How bad do you want this?

Stop making the excuses! Your teenagers aren't putting this shit in your lips, you are! Your job is not putting this shit in your lip you are... Life is not forcing you to chew, life goes on with or without it...question is, Will you be around?

[minuteofangle]

I give you guys so much credit for being quit, so I'm sorry if my references to dip as "delicious" were insulting. Dip is horrible, horrible stuff. We all know that. But maybe I should wait until I have a more serious conviction before I quit the lozenges? I mean, I have to work all week. With teenagers. Are the withdrawal affects so bad that I should call in sick?

I cant be insulted my brother...dont sweat it. I think that their is a valid concern about quitting your lozenges. Because thats when your metal is tested. Like I said before you MUST be committed. If you are ready (why wait? The next dip may widow your wife and orphan your children) then flush the shit and get ready for a bare knuckled, old fashioned, dirty fist fight with the nicotene bitch for a few days. While it is gonna suck (no way around that) prepare for the battle. Buy seeds, life-savers, gum, fake snuff, etc. and fight the good fight. There is never a good time to quit. We all have stress from work, family, etc. So jump on in brother. My advice is that if you need to take a week off to begin your quit then do it! Thats a small price to pay to get your life back. Read the site from cover to cover and stay close (check out live chat). Also read about what to expect in the coming days, weeks, and months. You got this bro!

MOA

[loot]

I give you guys so much credit for being quit, so I'm sorry if my references to dip as "delicious" were insulting. Dip is horrible, horrible stuff. We all know that. But maybe I should wait until I have a more serious conviction before I quit the lozenges? I mean, I have to work all week. With teenagers. Are the withdrawal affects so bad that I should call in sick?

You can use this thread, and this thread only to chronicle your lozenge cessation program if you'd like....but you can't post roll in the quitter's section.

So. Tell the class your plan for kicking the lozenges first....then we can discuss your inability to participate in life without nicotine. By the time you finish your lozenge program, maybe you'll be prepared to post a Day 1. :rolleyes:

[redtrain14]

You are not addicted to dip, you are addicted to nicotine. There is no simple way, there is no magic bullet. You need to understand that you are not going to fix years of stupid one week. You will eventually have to go back to work.

You have to make the decision to start sometime, nic candies are only prolonging your pain. Nicotine will have to be eliminated from your body at some point.

Might as well start now.

Your choice.

And if you ever say that dip is delicious on this forum again, I will give you a cyber punch in the forehead. Now get to quitting.

[Gelas]

I give you guys so much credit for being quit, so I'm sorry if my references to dip as "delicious" were insulting. Dip is horrible, horrible stuff. We all know that. But maybe I should wait until I have a more serious conviction before I quit the lozenges? I mean, I have to work all week. With teenagers. Are the withdrawal affects so bad that I should call in sick?

[jcook]

Right now, I honestly feel that life might not be worth living without dip. Everything I do is based on having a dip before, during, or after. ThatÂ’s how fucking addicted I am. I love dip. ItÂ’s so fucking delicious. I want to rub Grizzly mint all over my fucking body just to absorb its sweet delicious juices. The only reason I havenÂ’t dipped since Friday night is because IÂ’ve used nicotine lozenges. I havenÂ’t even really fucking quit. Anytime it gets tough I pop in a lozenge. Hell, theyÂ’re almost as good as my precious, wonderful dip. IÂ’m too much of a fucking pussy to go all the way. IÂ’m a huge fucking pussy faggot asshole motherfucker who is afraid of life without dip.

Are we allowed to say stuff like that on here?

Yeah, you are allowed to say alot here. What you can't do is use nic and be part of this group. You are part of the way to where you need to be. You know your an addict. You see your situation. The question is, are you ready to change? Ready to be free?

Go cold turkey. Go to the April 2011 group and post roll with your promise not to use today. The thing is: YOU have to want it. YOU have to be commited to change. Your "precious, wonderful dip" will keep you captive until it eventually kills you. Don't come in here and make nicotine sound like it is your long lost lover. It is a curse, it is a killer and this site is full of people who have choosed freedom.

SO.......... are you ready?

[minuteofangle]

Welcome you "huge fucking pussy faggot asshole motherfucker".....I have lots to say but Ill limit it to a couple of high points and let my fellow quitters take on the other issues.

First, You have to make a committment to yourself and really want to quit or you will fail. When you are ready (and NOW is the perfect time) you need to put the lozenges away and begin the painful process of removing the toxins of tobacco from your body. It will take three horribly, painful, shitty, days. We refer to this process as the SUCK. After those three days, life begins to improve. NOBODY can do this for you....Grab those NUTS and hold on (It helps to get real fucking mad at UST for addicting you to this shit then turning you out like a whore to get them money).

Second, Dont romanticize the shit. I dipped for 24 years and there is nothing sexy, awesome, cool, or even desirable about spitting into a fucking bottle. You are an ADDICT (So am I) NEVER forget that brother. I cannot quit for you. You must do this alone and for YOURSELF! However, you have me and about 6000 brothers and sisters here to give you a helping hand or a punch to the nuts if you need it.

Make the committment TODAY and begin the rest of your life free of this addiction. Ill see you in the HOF.

MOA

[Gelas]

Right now, I honestly feel that life might not be worth living without dip. Everything I do is based on having a dip before, during, or after. ThatÂ’s how fucking addicted I am. I love dip. ItÂ’s so fucking delicious. I want to rub Grizzly mint all over my fucking body just to absorb its sweet delicious juices. The only reason I havenÂ’t dipped since Friday night is because IÂ’ve used nicotine lozenges. I havenÂ’t even really fucking quit. Anytime it gets tough I pop in a lozenge. Hell, theyÂ’re almost as good as my precious, wonderful dip. IÂ’m too much of a fucking pussy to go all the way. IÂ’m a huge fucking pussy faggot asshole motherfucker who is afraid of life without dip.

Are we allowed to say stuff like that on here?