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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2014, 03:18:00 PM »
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!

Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.

Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.

Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.

Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
Good on both of you!
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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2014, 10:01:00 AM »
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!

Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.

Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.

Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.

Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
Good on both of you!
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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2014, 03:15:00 AM »
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!

Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.

Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.

Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.

Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2014, 12:00:00 AM »
Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!

Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.

Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.

Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.

Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2014, 11:30:00 AM »
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Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.

I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.

I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.

So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.

I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.

Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.

I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.
Dude...you're gonna shit your pants eating that cornucopia of fare. You better add a few rolls of Charmin to your list, in case your shart yourself.

Seriously, you are prepared. You are positive. And you WILL make that drive with no problems.

Safe travels on your pilgrimage.
That made me laugh. Such an odd combination to visualize. Drive safe. Your attitude already has any possible crave beat.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2014, 01:31:00 AM »
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Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.

I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.

I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.

So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.

I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.

Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.

I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.
Dude...you're gonna shit your pants eating that cornucopia of fare. You better add a few rolls of Charmin to your list, in case your shart yourself.

Seriously, you are prepared. You are positive. And you WILL make that drive with no problems.

Safe travels on your pilgrimage.
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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2014, 10:23:00 PM »
Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.

I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.

I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.

So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.

I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.

Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.

I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2014, 02:40:00 AM »
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New issue on day 36. I have noticed over the last few days I don't even think about chew. Infact I went 2 days without even using smokey mountain. There is one person in my life (they never used tobacco, its not an association with tobacco) that makes me want to chew. Whenever I talk to this person (so far it has only been on the phone) I get stressed beyond belief. This may seem weird, but driving is no issue now, working is no issue now, there is really no place I feel I have to chew. This person? Another story. I long for a can thinking about this person, talking to this person and for a few hours after.

So how many of you guys have a specific stressor? It is the weirdest thing. I didn't think I was stressed when talking to this individual, but this is a painful way of showing it.
Probably as many triggers as there are hours in the day, which probably explains why I packed a fatty for the majority of the day, outside of meals. You're farther along in your quit than me (nice work, by the way), but I felt like I spent the majority of the first few days thinking one to two hours into the future to prepare my brain / body for the fact that it wasn't going to get any poison. Gotta drop a deuce? No nic for you. Long conference call for work? No nic for you. Watching Sportscenter late-night? No nic for you. After I forced myself to accept that there would be no tin of poison waiting for me anywhere, I think I became the single best customer of David's Sunflower Seeds and Trident gum in a 3-day period. Stay strong, quit on bro.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2014, 02:18:00 AM »
New issue on day 36. I have noticed over the last few days I don't even think about chew. Infact I went 2 days without even using smokey mountain. There is one person in my life (they never used tobacco, its not an association with tobacco) that makes me want to chew. Whenever I talk to this person (so far it has only been on the phone) I get stressed beyond belief. This may seem weird, but driving is no issue now, working is no issue now, there is really no place I feel I have to chew. This person? Another story. I long for a can thinking about this person, talking to this person and for a few hours after.

So how many of you guys have a specific stressor? It is the weirdest thing. I didn't think I was stressed when talking to this individual, but this is a painful way of showing it.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2014, 10:01:00 AM »
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I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2014, 09:36:00 AM »
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I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
This is my favorite quote of the board since I joined. I'm with ya!

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2014, 09:24:00 AM »
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Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.

That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.

I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).

I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.

No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.
Nice rally Paddington! That's a huge litmus test -- one of many from here on out, I'd imagine -- and the fact that you were indifferent about the dipping in your presence is impressive. Very inspiring, and shows how strong your resolve is coming off a bruising crave. You got this!

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2014, 05:57:00 AM »
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Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.

That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.

I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).

I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.

No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.
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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2014, 02:32:00 AM »
Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.

That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.

I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).

I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.

No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.

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Re: Doing it for real.
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2014, 08:19:00 AM »
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Update-

That was at least 3 hours long. Pacing back and forth, feeling like I was going to shred someone alive. (I am single and live on my own in the middle of nowhere, so socially this quit has been relatively easy as I have pretty much escaped potentially bad contacts.)

Went through a pack of Spitz seeds and have the beat up and sore tongue to prove it!

I totally got blind sided by that crave. It was worse than anything I have had during previous quit attempts, during the first 72 hours (and I have had 2 first 72 hours this month, as prior to my quit date on the 8th I had quit on the 3rd and caved at 72 hours.)

I ended up spending an hour or so watching this. Highly recommend it.

http://youtu.be/wvwrEo3sKAw

I know how nicotine works, I know the effect of Dopamine, the Alpha/Beta effects on the cardiovascular system, the neurological effects, ect. Knowing how it works helps and I think you have to in order to quit. Having said that, the human aspect and the psychological aspect of the quit is not something I think you understand unless you are going through it or have gone through it. That is where you have all helped. Thanks for the replies this evening. Just being able to vent and chat with folks who understand the struggles really does help.

About to start day 25. 1/4 of the way to 100. No nicotine or tobacco.
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