Doing it for real.

[SAM83]

Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).

I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.

What are your thoughts?

First congrats on Day 19! I think that ulitmately it is personal choice. The rules for KTC are to remain nic free, there is no rule or expecatation about putting anything else in your mouth. You could pack dryer lint in there as long as it is nic free. For me, right now, I think it would hit a little to close to home, so I chew Trident and suck a fireball once in a while. I was having a conversation about this with Ziilah cowboy a few days back and some one (to lazy to go back and look but the conversation is on ZC intro) summed it up nicely...paraphrase..."Quit is quit (nic free), why split hairs on the other stuff". Gaurd your quit and do what you need to to remain nic free. I quit with you today.

[Paddington]

Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).

I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.

What are your thoughts?

[Paddington]

Sounds good guys. I plan on posting roll. Had major insomnia last night. Woke up this morning and have been more energetic on 5 hours of sleep than I have been in months. This has been an interesting journey.

[Derk40]

Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.

I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.

Learn from your past mistakes-Hardly any of us are at our first rodeo here. We've all tried every trick in the book to quit (unsuccessfully). I love seeing people say "I've thought about joining for the last xxx years". It means that (deep down), something tells them that our program works.

Think about your failures in the past, and figure out a way to not relive these failures. A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wiseman learns from others' mistakes. A dumbass keeps making the same mistakes. Ask questions here, and we'll support you.

Quit for today-My quit is real as well (All 940 days of it). However, the past means shit and the future is not guaranteed if I can't make it through today. Hell, if I can't make it through this second. You see, we can't control our past or our future. We got the NOW. 17 days is badass, but you, sir, are quit RIGHT NOW. Fucking say that as loud and as proud as you can because there are a lot of people in this world that don't have the balls you have. Plan for this moment. Own this moment.

Plan to be quit and you'll be quit. Although we can only worry about the now, we can set up our lives to remain quit in the future. When times are good, help a brother out. When times are bad, lean on one. Watch your drinking. Have gum/seeds/herbal snuff on you at all times. Think about your triggers, and think about when you'll be most tempted.

Most importantly, come here and post roll call. This is your cry for help and your battle cry in this war. You can do this.

Welcome bro! You made the right decision to come here and quit.

At KTC, there is only 1 way to say "I told you so"... that is by posting roll! Words fall short when it is quitting time. Focus on quitting ODAAT. Each morning post roll first thing, make the promise to quit for today  then hold your word. That is the only way.

Quit on!

[ppolcyn]

I tried to quit once before; guess what happened. I failed. Why? I didnt buy in.

I drink a full fucking gallon of this Kool-Aid everyday now. And now I AM quit.

Make this site and its resources an integral part of each and every day and the days will add up and you WILL succeed.

If you need anything, PM me for digits or for any other help.

[wastepanel]

Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.

I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.

Learn from your past mistakes-Hardly any of us are at our first rodeo here. We've all tried every trick in the book to quit (unsuccessfully). I love seeing people say "I've thought about joining for the last xxx years". It means that (deep down), something tells them that our program works.

Think about your failures in the past, and figure out a way to not relive these failures. A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wiseman learns from others' mistakes. A dumbass keeps making the same mistakes. Ask questions here, and we'll support you.

Quit for today-My quit is real as well (All 940 days of it). However, the past means shit and the future is not guaranteed if I can't make it through today. Hell, if I can't make it through this second. You see, we can't control our past or our future. We got the NOW. 17 days is badass, but you, sir, are quit RIGHT NOW. Fucking say that as loud and as proud as you can because there are a lot of people in this world that don't have the balls you have. Plan for this moment. Own this moment.

Plan to be quit and you'll be quit. Although we can only worry about the now, we can set up our lives to remain quit in the future. When times are good, help a brother out. When times are bad, lean on one. Watch your drinking. Have gum/seeds/herbal snuff on you at all times. Think about your triggers, and think about when you'll be most tempted.

Most importantly, come here and post roll call. This is your cry for help and your battle cry in this war. You can do this.

[Paddington]

Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.

I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.

[RickDicolus]

You posted roll. That is a promise not to dip for one day. If your word means nothing this site is not the place for you. That being said, if you want to quit and you're honest this site will work for you. No one has ever caved, as in fell off the wagon, and been happy about it. Remember the shit from the first two times you went through the early stages of withdrawal. Remember why you came here in the first place. Do whatever it takes for you to not dip today. We can talk about tomorrow when tomorrow arrives.

You need help? Ask for it.

You need numbers? Just ask.

You want a dip? Ask for permission from anyone here. I'm sure you'll get a fine response.

This site will return everything you give to it tenfold. This is your one quit. You have never quit before now. Anything else was a vacation, this is the real deal. Unless you aren't ready to commit, and if you aren't please refrain from waiting everyone's time.

Please feel free to PM me, or respond here, if you need any further help or clarification.

-Rick

[Paddington]

I must apologize for spelling and grammar errors in advance. I am at day 17 I believe, I would have to double check. I am going through what I would describe that 2 week day 14-16 kick in the pants.

I have flirted with joining this forum. I have looked at this website on and off for the last 3 years. I actually started chewing at age 18. I really don't know why I did it, I cannot actually tell you where I had my first dip or what made me continue. I was living in a part of the country where dip was actually pretty unheard of. Most of the places I bought my chew had expired product and I was always checking the expiration date prior to leaving the store. Fast forward 7 years and I quit.

I started chewing at the beginning of my EMS career. Hell with the 48 hour shifts it made perfect sense. Wake up at 3am and need a kick in the pants before a big call? Throw a dip in! I would later actually stop for a period of 3 months after tapering off the skoal with the help of snus. I was not actually intentionally trying to quit, but I should have stopped right there.

I ended up moving states to go to Paramedic school. First day of Medic school and half the class had a fat lip in. What was I thinking, EMS and Fire guys again. Of course we were up 24/7. Riding on the Ambulance and Engines by night, sitting in class for 10 hours by day. This was 6 days a week. No joke.... I have been told by former military veterans that our Medic school was harder than any training they had done in the military.

After a 14 months medic program I was hooked. A can a day. I knew better, I was a healthcare provider. I knew better because I saw the harmful effects of tobacco on people and more so the harmful effects of addiction. Nicotine being really no different, just a slower poison. I would end up getting a job as a Paramedic and doing a "decent" job of balancing full time work and continuing my education. Chew was a great help.

I ended up having an emergency trip half way across the world (literally) for a family emergency a year into my job. While in Africa there was no chewing tobacco. While everyone was smoking around me it just did not interest me. I hurt... Really bad.... I came back to the states and started chewing immediately. I had been clean of nicotine for 10 days.

Fast forward 2 more years at 1-2 cans a day of Grizzly wintergreen long cut and here I am on my 25th birthday. I had to leave a well paying job to finish school, between stress, sleep problems, and concentration issues I ended up having to leave school as well. I am now freshly 25 year old and in a new year. I flirted with quiting on the 1st but got a can on the 4th. I officially have been Nicotine free since 1/7/2013 or 17 days. It officially sucks.

Glad to be here though and hope this intro has not been too long or completely fucked in terms of making sense.

I am going to continue to read how this all works. I figured while I fight an urge to jump in the truck and freeze my ass off to go clear across the county to get a can tonight, I should sit on here and type/read instead.