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Re: Day One
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2015, 10:28:00 AM »
Sorry guys. I was up north deer hunting with bad cell and internet Access. KennyZ texted me and got me on roll. Thanks for the support. No luck hunting Just saw a couple does all weekend. It was good to sit in the woods nic free though.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2015, 06:16:00 AM »
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Dude where are you?

This is no game. Your name has to show up on roll every day. We can help you, but you have got to want to help yourself first.
He texted his roll call to me. The post was bumped.
Thanks. Sorry for the call out.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2015, 10:20:00 PM »
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Dude where are you?

This is no game. Your name has to show up on roll every day. We can help you, but you have got to want to help yourself first.
He texted his roll call to me. The post was bumped.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2015, 08:59:00 PM »
Dude where are you?

This is no game. Your name has to show up on roll every day. We can help you, but you have got to want to help yourself first.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2015, 04:37:00 PM »
Hey no trace. Welcome aboard. Your intro caught my eye. "Quitting for good" I used to throw away a tin almost every Sunday and "quit for good" no shit, I would swear it off with firm resolve, dump a can. only to be back at it by Tuesday or Wednesday. This site taught me to quit for today. Forever was just too damn big to get head around. The site also taught me how to accept help and support. Pretty soon the today's added up to something.

You can do this. It gets easier. Get your Jakes mint, jump in chat, and get some phone numbers. Texting is a HUGE help.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2015, 03:36:00 PM »
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Well, last night was an utter failure. I didn't use nicotine, but I drank 6 beers. (Strong beers) I got drunk, and my wife is incredibly pissed at me since I was taking care of my one and a half year old son when I was drinking. She has every right to be pissed at me. I'm pissed at me! I thought I was doing so well yesterday, and all week. Only to have my dumb ass nic brain tell me to get a buzz a different way. I seriously never drink like that. Alcohol is something that I know is increadibly dangerous and I have done my best to treat it with respect. I am scared that my dumb ass adict brain is going to switch from one addiction to another. I'm so increadibly pissed off at myself right now. I feel like a failure as a father and a husband.
At least you see the issue and you can do something about it. There are many posts about people switching addictions or intensifying remaining addictions when quitting.

You've validated your wife's concern and now you need to work on ensuring you see the triggers moving forward. If you haven't swapped numbers with a quit brother/sister, you should. You can always reach out and have someone pull you back.
Swap those digits. Your brain is searching for any way to get that buzz right now, but just like with nic, you choose what and how much goes into your system. There is an Alcohol Slow Down group here on KTC, and there is some really good material in there about moderate drinking. Plans to follow, limits, etc. This may be a good place for you to start to see if it's something you want to pursue.

Your reaction is a normal reaction. Your mind and body are desperately trying to recreate that buzz because it's what you've trained it to expect. I promise this will get better. You can tell your wife that. If you need to slow down or quit the alcohol for awhile, it's a small sacrifice to make to repair the damage that you've done not only to your body and psyche, but also to your relationship with Mrs. Trace.

I have been in your shoes. Read my intro at about day 49 when my wife encouraged me to resume dipping because she wanted the KingNothing that she had grown accustomed to for many years (even if it was based on lies and deception). How messed up is that? I owned it. I owned my mistake and I owned my quit that night. I'm not quitting for her. I'm quitting for me and to make me a better person. I'm still working on that, but it's a lot easier now than it was on day 5.

Stick with the program here. Drop or slow down on alcohol at least temporarily if you need to, but most importantly, be proud of yourself for every day that you do not put that crap back in your face. Even if that's the only thing you accomplish today, that's a +1.
Addiction is really an interesting thing. It is really a personality trait. Some people can smoke a cigarette or drink a beer once a week. Others take one puff or one sip and it is on to the races - a pack turns into a carton, a bottle turns into a keg... These same people are usually the hardest workers, the most successful careers, the most fun people to be around, the best parents/spouses - I guess I'm saying... we are all in with whatever we do. Unfortunately, as we have learned, that means we have to be VERY careful with what we are all in on.

This is a good trait to have. You are either a big big winner, or a big big loser. You know what it takes to win. The choice is yours. Dude - I lost for 25 years. Now I choose to win. 1,048 days in a row. Make this a big life change for you - you'll never regret it.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2015, 11:49:00 AM »
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Well, last night was an utter failure. I didn't use nicotine, but I drank 6 beers. (Strong beers) I got drunk, and my wife is incredibly pissed at me since I was taking care of my one and a half year old son when I was drinking. She has every right to be pissed at me. I'm pissed at me! I thought I was doing so well yesterday, and all week. Only to have my dumb ass nic brain tell me to get a buzz a different way. I seriously never drink like that. Alcohol is something that I know is increadibly dangerous and I have done my best to treat it with respect. I am scared that my dumb ass adict brain is going to switch from one addiction to another. I'm so increadibly pissed off at myself right now. I feel like a failure as a father and a husband.
At least you see the issue and you can do something about it. There are many posts about people switching addictions or intensifying remaining addictions when quitting.

You've validated your wife's concern and now you need to work on ensuring you see the triggers moving forward. If you haven't swapped numbers with a quit brother/sister, you should. You can always reach out and have someone pull you back.
Swap those digits. Your brain is searching for any way to get that buzz right now, but just like with nic, you choose what and how much goes into your system. There is an Alcohol Slow Down group here on KTC, and there is some really good material in there about moderate drinking. Plans to follow, limits, etc. This may be a good place for you to start to see if it's something you want to pursue.

Your reaction is a normal reaction. Your mind and body are desperately trying to recreate that buzz because it's what you've trained it to expect. I promise this will get better. You can tell your wife that. If you need to slow down or quit the alcohol for awhile, it's a small sacrifice to make to repair the damage that you've done not only to your body and psyche, but also to your relationship with Mrs. Trace.

I have been in your shoes. Read my intro at about day 49 when my wife encouraged me to resume dipping because she wanted the KingNothing that she had grown accustomed to for many years (even if it was based on lies and deception). How messed up is that? I owned it. I owned my mistake and I owned my quit that night. I'm not quitting for her. I'm quitting for me and to make me a better person. I'm still working on that, but it's a lot easier now than it was on day 5.

Stick with the program here. Drop or slow down on alcohol at least temporarily if you need to, but most importantly, be proud of yourself for every day that you do not put that crap back in your face. Even if that's the only thing you accomplish today, that's a +1.
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Re: Day One
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2015, 10:58:00 AM »
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Well, last night was an utter failure. I didn't use nicotine, but I drank 6 beers. (Strong beers) I got drunk, and my wife is incredibly pissed at me since I was taking care of my one and a half year old son when I was drinking. She has every right to be pissed at me. I'm pissed at me! I thought I was doing so well yesterday, and all week. Only to have my dumb ass nic brain tell me to get a buzz a different way. I seriously never drink like that. Alcohol is something that I know is increadibly dangerous and I have done my best to treat it with respect. I am scared that my dumb ass adict brain is going to switch from one addiction to another. I'm so increadibly pissed off at myself right now. I feel like a failure as a father and a husband.
At least you see the issue and you can do something about it. There are many posts about people switching addictions or intensifying remaining addictions when quitting.

You've validated your wife's concern and now you need to work on ensuring you see the triggers moving forward. If you haven't swapped numbers with a quit brother/sister, you should. You can always reach out and have someone pull you back.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2015, 06:30:00 AM »
Well, last night was an utter failure. I didn't use nicotine, but I drank 6 beers. (Strong beers) I got drunk, and my wife is incredibly pissed at me since I was taking care of my one and a half year old son when I was drinking. She has every right to be pissed at me. I'm pissed at me! I thought I was doing so well yesterday, and all week. Only to have my dumb ass nic brain tell me to get a buzz a different way. I seriously never drink like that. Alcohol is something that I know is increadibly dangerous and I have done my best to treat it with respect. I am scared that my dumb ass adict brain is going to switch from one addiction to another. I'm so increadibly pissed off at myself right now. I feel like a failure as a father and a husband.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2015, 10:48:00 PM »
Omg yes!

I was zombie for a while but one of my quit bros kept his journal. Dude I love reading it. What nicotine did to us is such bs. You won't believe how much better life is without having that very very expensive and carcinogic ball and chain strapped to you.

This place works. The method works, and buying in to posting roll and keeping your word will improve your life on many levels. If I can help let me know. This is one of the best decisions of your life. Maybe the best.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2015, 08:45:00 PM »
I am an advocate of using the introduction thread as a quit journal. That is what I did here. I never wanted to forget what the first few weeks of my quit were like.

Lay it all out here as honestly as you can. Anytime you remember something that was stupid about using Copenhagen or anytime you have a victory over nicotine post about it here. If you have an awful crave or a dip dream post about it here.

Bookmark this thread and read your own words back to yourself whenever you are having a tough day, or when you want to remind yourself about the freedom that you have attained.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2015, 07:27:00 PM »
Well, I got my jakes mint chew in the mail today, and it couldn't have come sooner. I ordered the variety pack, and opened the cinimon first. It is very good. Gives a nice little tingle in the lip, and satisfies the oral craving. It is a bit loose when pinching but packs well in the lip. It feels like putting a dip in that has already been in the lip for a while. Does the trick though. I have 10 cans right now and am hoping that that will take me through the major cravings over the next few weeks or so. After I get further along in my quit, I would like to cut out th oral stuff as well. For now this is helping out a lot. I am so happy that I found this community.
Since I am using this intro post as a journal, I thought I would talk about how I started chewing. The first time I put a dip in was about 9 years ago. A buddy and I were out setting up our deer stands for the year. He offered me a pinch, and I obliged. I put the first lipper in and got a buzz that I will never forget, dizzy to the moon. I bought my first tin on the way home, and the rest is history. I chose Copenhagen because my father was a Copenhagen chewrer when I was a kid. The smell of Copenhagen brought back pleasant childhood memories. He quit the chew when I was young, but it is amazing how those childhood memories stick with you. This is one of the biggest reasons that I want to quit. I don't want my son to associate me with the smell of chew. This should be a reminder to all those whoe have kids. What we do around our children sticks with them for the rest of their lives. I am 30 now and still associate the smell of Copenhagen with my father.
I was about a tin a week adict for many years. Over the past few months that addiction turned into a tin every two to three days. I was hiding it from my wife and at work. The addiction kept growing and it ceased to be fun many years ago. I tried to quit many times but always sucame to the whispering voices in my head and went back on the shit every time. This time feels different. I am dedicated to posting roll. I want people to keep me accountable, and I have shared everything with my wife. I am so sick of feeling dependant on that shit. I am deep in the fog right now. I can't concentrate on work, and have a constant nagging feeling like I am forgetting something. I can't wait to get through the fog and continue with life. I appreciate and respect all those who have gone before me in the quitting process.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2015, 10:45:00 AM »
Using your intro as a quit journal is an excellent idea. Too soon it will be difficult to remember how bad the early days really are, and your journal immunizes you against nicotine whispering in your ear.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2015, 10:14:00 AM »
Well, I'm on day 4. I'm not sure why I'm writing on this forum other than the fact that it feels good to vent, and it acts as somewhat of a journal for my quit journey. Thank you all for the support. Mentally, I am feeling much better than I have in the past when I tried to quit. I think it helps that I have let my wife know what I am going through this time, and that I post roll every day to remind myself to kill the can for one more day. I have been feeling achy and my mouth hurts a bit, but other than that the cravings haven't been as bad as I have experienced in the past. This weekend is Deer opener up here in Minnesota. It will be a real test to spend a weekend in deer camp and not chew. Luckily, non of the guys that I will be hunting with chew. I will just have to get past the association that I have built between hunting and chewing. I know I can do it though. Taking it a day at a time. I can't wait till I can say that I have made it to the 100 day mark. It's good to have a goal.

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Re: Day One
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2015, 04:06:00 PM »
Thanks guys. My wife is totally in my corner! She is pretty hurt that I hid this from her for so long, but I have come clean and plan to be honest with her from here on out. She is excited for me, and pushing for me to succeed. I sent her a link to the spousal support page. Day 3 is almost done. I even survived a trip to the dreaded gas station...