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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2011, 06:06:00 PM »
Good stuff, Keddy. Helping yourself by helping others is what this site (and life) is all about.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2011, 05:37:00 PM »
Quote from: Keddy
Day 219 . . . .

The Meaning of Real Love

IÂ’ve been wanting to post these ideas for a while; so here goes.

One of the reasons why KTC works so well is that most of its members accomplish something that is rather unusual or rare in our world: they manage to love each other in one of deepest ways without ever having met each other. Eventually, some of us do meet each other, but thatÂ’s another story.

As soon as I mention the word, “love,” immediately people think of sexuality or romance. Even though such intimacy is on the periphery of real love, we’ve been conditioned by our culture to think of it as the essential or primary definition. However, real love goes deeper and farther. Real love is a willingness to do what is best for another person regardless of how that person reacts or receives that love or ever gives anything in return.

This goes beyond camaraderie. While all of us who are quitting nicotine have common ground and common experiences, the fellowship of quitting is probably not enough to keep KTC successful. Even though friendship is important, true love is more basic than camaraderie. Yes, we often develop friendships here, but the support and help we receive at KTC is separate from any such common ground. Friendships are based on mutual feelings and interests; Real love doesnÂ’t need those things.

The power of this quit site rests in the unselfish support of its members for each other. For some of us, especially the “old timers”, this support has involved years of helping people, most of whom they have never met or seen. These successful quitters don’t need to hang around any longer; their quits are established and solid. Yet, they do hang around. They hang around primarily because they care about the new folks who are quitting. They give encouragement, offer advice, explain and comfort those who are struggling to get free from the addiction. They give swift kicks in the backside when necessary. They are sounding boards for all the bitching and groaning that goes on. And they are willing to take mud in the face to help the newbie succeed.

The success of KTC depends on people coming alongside others and walking with them on the darkest and most miserable of roads. ItÂ’s often not pleasant, but it is indeed love in the deepest sense. At the end of that road is the light of freedom and a new life for the quitter. But it is important to remember that each successful quit is dependent on the aid and sacrifice of others.

And it is equally important to remember that, as we succeed, we are responsible to walk with others who need our help. It doesnÂ’t need to feel good; itÂ’s just something we must do.
Keddy - From one humble soul that has been on the receiving end of your love and support - what you say is truth and I hope I can be as diligent and intentional helping others as you have been to me - Thanks, Corn

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2011, 04:49:00 PM »
Day 219 . . . .

The Meaning of Real Love

IÂ’ve been wanting to post these ideas for a while; so here goes.

One of the reasons why KTC works so well is that most of its members accomplish something that is rather unusual or rare in our world: they manage to love each other in one of deepest ways without ever having met each other. Eventually, some of us do meet each other, but thatÂ’s another story.

As soon as I mention the word, “love,” immediately people think of sexuality or romance. Even though such intimacy is on the periphery of real love, we’ve been conditioned by our culture to think of it as the essential or primary definition. However, real love goes deeper and farther. Real love is a willingness to do what is best for another person regardless of how that person reacts or receives that love or ever gives anything in return.

This goes beyond camaraderie. While all of us who are quitting nicotine have common ground and common experiences, the fellowship of quitting is probably not enough to keep KTC successful. Even though friendship is important, true love is more basic than camaraderie. Yes, we often develop friendships here, but the support and help we receive at KTC is separate from any such common ground. Friendships are based on mutual feelings and interests; Real love doesnÂ’t need those things.

The power of this quit site rests in the unselfish support of its members for each other. For some of us, especially the “old timers”, this support has involved years of helping people, most of whom they have never met or seen. These successful quitters don’t need to hang around any longer; their quits are established and solid. Yet, they do hang around. They hang around primarily because they care about the new folks who are quitting. They give encouragement, offer advice, explain and comfort those who are struggling to get free from the addiction. They give swift kicks in the backside when necessary. They are sounding boards for all the bitching and groaning that goes on. And they are willing to take mud in the face to help the newbie succeed.

The success of KTC depends on people coming alongside others and walking with them on the darkest and most miserable of roads. ItÂ’s often not pleasant, but it is indeed love in the deepest sense. At the end of that road is the light of freedom and a new life for the quitter. But it is important to remember that each successful quit is dependent on the aid and sacrifice of others.

And it is equally important to remember that, as we succeed, we are responsible to walk with others who need our help. It doesnÂ’t need to feel good; itÂ’s just something we must do.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 04:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Keddy
Day 191 . . . .

Some things I have learned about quitting:

1. When we build accountability with our group and with those who support us, the strength of our quit increases exponentially.

2. We quit because we want our lives back and are tired of being enslaved by nicotine.

3. There is no legitimate excuse not to quit right now.

4. Nicotine never helped me deal with anything; it only created an addiction, a void, that I needed to fill.

5. I can do anything better without nicotine than with nicotine.

6. If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.

7. Channel your hate for dip into the positive energy required to quit.

8. If I need to wait until tomorrow to quit, I don't want to quit enough.

9. There is tremendous reward after the suck!!

10. It helps to talk back to my addiction. Yeah, others may think you're strange, but when you're tempted at the convenience store, just tell dip to go to hell (quietly), and walk out.
Awesome!

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 01:58:00 PM »
Quote from: Keddy
Day 191 . . . .

Some things I have learned about quitting:

1.  When we build accountability with our group and with those who support us, the strength of our quit increases exponentially.

2.  We quit because we want our lives back and are tired of being enslaved by nicotine.

3.  There is no legitimate excuse not to quit right now.

4.  Nicotine never helped me deal with anything; it only created an addiction, a void, that I needed to fill.

5.  I can do anything better without nicotine than with nicotine.

6.  If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.

7.  Channel your hate for dip into the positive energy required to quit.

8.  If I need to wait until tomorrow to quit, I don't want to quit enough.

9.  There is tremendous reward after the suck!!

10.  It helps to talk back to my addiction.  Yeah, others may think you're strange, but when you're tempted at the convenience store, just tell dip to go to hell (quietly), and walk out.
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6.  If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.
Gold right there my friend !! Pure GOLD !!
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4.  Nicotine never helped me deal with anything; it only created an addiction, a void, that I needed to fill.
I liked that one as well. Nice list.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2011, 01:51:00 PM »
Quote from: Keddy
Day 191 . . . .

Some things I have learned about quitting:

1. When we build accountability with our group and with those who support us, the strength of our quit increases exponentially.

2. We quit because we want our lives back and are tired of being enslaved by nicotine.

3. There is no legitimate excuse not to quit right now.

4. Nicotine never helped me deal with anything; it only created an addiction, a void, that I needed to fill.

5. I can do anything better without nicotine than with nicotine.

6. If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.

7. Channel your hate for dip into the positive energy required to quit.

8. If I need to wait until tomorrow to quit, I don't want to quit enough.

9. There is tremendous reward after the suck!!

10. It helps to talk back to my addiction. Yeah, others may think you're strange, but when you're tempted at the convenience store, just tell dip to go to hell (quietly), and walk out.
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6.  If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.
Gold right there my friend !! Pure GOLD !!

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2011, 01:41:00 PM »
Day 191 . . . .

Some things I have learned about quitting:

1. When we build accountability with our group and with those who support us, the strength of our quit increases exponentially.

2. We quit because we want our lives back and are tired of being enslaved by nicotine.

3. There is no legitimate excuse not to quit right now.

4. Nicotine never helped me deal with anything; it only created an addiction, a void, that I needed to fill.

5. I can do anything better without nicotine than with nicotine.

6. If someone helped me to quit, I have a responsibility to help someone else do the same.

7. Channel your hate for dip into the positive energy required to quit.

8. If I need to wait until tomorrow to quit, I don't want to quit enough.

9. There is tremendous reward after the suck!!

10. It helps to talk back to my addiction. Yeah, others may think you're strange, but when you're tempted at the convenience store, just tell dip to go to hell (quietly), and walk out.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 09:46:00 AM »
At Day 122 . . . .

I've been thinking about all the folks here at KTC who have been a tremendous help in my quit. At the risk of missing someone, I'd like to thank these people personally.

Thanks to:

Skoal Monster
brianl
Bean
MikeA
Greg5280
FloridaLuke
AmericanNurse
Gator
Seth (supported me directly through my entire quit)
Mjollnir (Thor)
Syndrome
NOLAQ
TruckerRick

I'm proud to be one of all the great quitters in Feb 2011. We've got the best group ever. Let's help each other on to the second floor!

We're all indebted! Let's pay it forward (and backward).

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 01:09:00 PM »
I work from home also. My home office (downstairs) is also where I would hide on the weekends so I could get away and dip. I am now 308 and I am still in the home office. I just don't use it as much on the weekends.
Just proof that it can be done.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 12:50:00 PM »
Hello Bean,

Well, today hasn't been too bad so far. Sleep last night was rough as usual. I woke up at around 2:30 AM after about four hours of sleep and couldn't fall asleep again.

My headaches come and go and appear to be dependent on the amount of rest I can manage.

I have deliberately built several anxiety "combatants" into my days. My wife calls me twice a day just to check in and I have two other friends that I can call when I feel overwhelmed.

On the positive side, I can tell you that I already feel better in some ways both emotionally and physically. It's nice not being controlled by the "morning dip," or the "last thing of the night dip," or the "after meal dip." And the symptoms of anxiety and depression are definitely much less intense than a few days ago.

Day 12 is progressing . . . .

Thanks for connecting.


(Regarding the Quit Groups, I think I actually belong in the January group since my quit date was the deadline for that group, 10/24. Still might be a good idea to join the February group since I was so close to the deadline???)

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 12:24:00 PM »
Keddy,

How are doing today? I know they say "72 hrs" or whatever, but I felt like a sack of shit far longer than that. But I'm telling you that it does get better. I just can't say when...I think everyone is different.

I dealt with my first "dip dream" recently...woke up pissed at myself and depressed because I honestly believed I had caved the night before. I knew I hadn't bought a can, but the whole thing was just too wierd.

My point is that Nic keeps fighting to get back in our lives. You gotta fight with all your will to stay quit...and even then, some don't. My advice would be to embrace the suck...turn the tables on Nic and don't think positively about it. Ex...I actually said stupid stuff outloud (alone in my truck, of course) like,

"Today I feel like shit because I was stupid 20 years ago...but it's my privilege to feel like shit because I am no longer the fucking idiot I was 20 years ago and today I get to live dip-free."

I know, it is embarrassing, but I have pulled off the unthinkable...I quit and stayed quit thanks to this site. You can do it, too. It's your life we're talking about here.

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 07:30:00 PM »
Quote from: Keddy
Thank you for your responses, Bean and sM.

I have quit am determined to stay that way.

One of the things I deal with is needing to convince myself that I'm not going crazy or something and that these anxiety/headache/insomnia days will pass.

One day at a time . . . .

Keddy

(My real name is Ed.)
Keddy,

the headaches are from increased blood flow to your brain, your noggin is getting more oxygen than its used to. Nicotine constricts blood vessels. These will go away soon and are a good thing. I'm no doctor but more blood flow to something as vital as your brain is a good thing.

The anxiety is normal as well. You have used poison as a crutch for 30years. It is going to take some time for you to learn how to handle stress, day to day drama, without a chemical fix. Go to Cancer and Quitter Stories and find the post " new reactions to anger" it is a good one to explain how the lack of nicotine can affect your emotions.

Some of us have used the family doctor to help handle the anxiety early in the quit. I took some anti-anxiety meds after a panic attack ( and almost jumping over the counter at the donut shop to choke out the 17year old douche bag who flipped me off in the parking lot) 'crackup' I'm a bit high strung. Thing was is I was willing to do anything in order to keep from dipping and smoking.

Your in a fight for your life, so use whatever you need to stay nicotine free.

I promise it gets soooooo much better than it is right now. Just keep putting up +1 everyday.

Stay quit
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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 07:10:00 PM »
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Hello Everyone,

I wouldn't usually consider myself a wimp and can generally handle my own problems, but I need some friends to help me through this.

I quit dipping 11 days ago. This has been an on/off habit for about 30 years. I just got angry enough with myself for letting this stuff control me so I quit cold turkey.

So far so good, but things have been tough. I can hardly sleep and have constant sinus/head aches. I have also been reduced to tears by some tough bouts with anxiety and depression.

My wife is very supportive. However, I work at home and am alone most of the day. It sure can get uncomfortable facing all those triggers by oneself.

Thanks for listening.

I have quit and will not go back.

Keddy
Welcome Keddy,

I think you will find that this site will help you tremedously. Since you work from home I assume that you are around a computer all day and can come and go as you please on it.
Take advantage of that and visit the site several times a day. I do this myself and it's very helpful. Reading as much as I can, trying to help others, it's satisfying and rewarding. And it helps you get through the day.
Have you joined the February group? If not get on over and start the ball rolling.

Brian

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 06:04:00 PM »
Thank you for your responses, Bean and sM.

I have quit am determined to stay that way.

One of the things I deal with is needing to convince myself that I'm not going crazy or something and that these anxiety/headache/insomnia days will pass.

One day at a time . . . .

Keddy

(My real name is Ed.)

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Re: Hello! I'm Quittin' Last Tuesday
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 04:20:00 PM »
Keddy,

Congrats on 11 days. I'm at Day 54, but I recall the early days very well. I think I wrote a post to the guys on this website thanking them for their support at 14 days. I meant it, too. There is no way I could have done it without this site.

Keep posting roll, stay quit that day, then repeat. Don't think beyond Yesterday + 1. Use the funk you're in right now as motivation to NEVER dip again. Nic doesn't give up her victims easily...what you're going through is just another one of her traps.

I found that encouraging others helped me stay quit...so chat up the folks who are at Day 1 or 2 and encourage them. I went with Altoids instead of the fake stuff, mainly because they were easy to find. But try those. Keep them in you pocket and pop one in when you feel a crave.

Don't get down...this is literally a fight for your life. And it is worth winning. You can do this...one day at a time.