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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 02:08:00 PM »
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Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.
I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
But, if I do, I'm going to try again tomorrow.................
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will never quit that way.

"I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
But, if I do, I'm going to try again tomorrow................."

Probably? I guarantee you will if that's how you are going to approach this. Around here, we call that caving. We also live by the rule "caving is not an option." It's not even on the table. Not probably, not maybe, not possibly, not with pigs flying and hell frozen over.You are quit or you aren't. Like the rest of us here, you are an addict and, as such, you will take any opportunity you leave yourself to use nicotine. Don't give yourself the option like that.

Cold turkey is the only way to go. I think we've all tried cutting back, or gum, or patches, etc. If you are still using nic, you are not allowing your body to begin the process of recovery. Basically, cutting down, patches and/or gum are 2 or 3 on the this-sucks-ass scale and cold turkey is a 10. Here's the bad news, now matter how long you suffer through the cutting down part, the final step of zero nicotine is still a 10. Why would you want to suffer longer than you have to?

It's 3 days of hell. Nut up and get through it hour by hour for the first few days and you'll gradually start feeling significantly better after that. You'll have some bad days later, but you'll have some really good ones too.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 02:02:00 PM »
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Quote from: redtrain14
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Quote from: Skoal
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Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.
I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
But, if I do, I'm going to try again tomorrow.................
You'll probably crash later? What the hell kind of quitting is that?

You've been 3 hours....go one more, then the next. Minute by minute if you have to. That's how its done.

If you are looking for an easy way, it doesn't exist. You're just lying to yourself. Better screw your head on straight if you really want this.

Doesn't sound to me like you do.
What the fuck? You think this is a fucking joke? We are serious quitters up in here. Make a commitment and a promise and stick with it.
I'm on day 36, I'm not sure how I'm going to feel when I hit the HOF. But I can tell you I feel better right now. It feels damn good to wake up each morning and know that you are no longer slowly killing yourself. And there are tons of other benefits I've seen as of right now...but I really suspect you don't want to hear them...because it seems to me you are looking for a magic bullet that will justify to yourself why you should actually quit.

I sure as hell wouldn't base my quit decision on how I'm going to feel in 100 days. I'm not knocking the HOF at all, it is a damn fine accomplishment....and I'm not in yet so I can't say for sure...but from what I've read and from my own assumptions...I don't think when I hit day 101 choir's are going to start singing while birds perch on my arms as I magically spin through an enchanted forest.

And about the anxiety...I came in here thinking that exact same thing. Turns out I've come to discover about 75% of the guys here all have that same issue. And we are rocking the quit train like the starting QB does the head cheerleader....one little ass slap at a time.

So man up and throw out all your shit and get in the August group. No more of this I'm going to TRY to make it 3 hours. It will be the best decision you've ever made.
Quit: 3/23/10
All good things in all good time.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 01:57:00 PM »
Oh yeah....and we don't try here, remove that shit from your vocabulary.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 01:55:00 PM »
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Mville
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Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
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Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.
I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
But, if I do, I'm going to try again tomorrow.................
You'll probably crash later? What the hell kind of quitting is that?

You've been 3 hours....go one more, then the next. Minute by minute if you have to. That's how its done.

If you are looking for an easy way, it doesn't exist. You're just lying to yourself. Better screw your head on straight if you really want this.

Doesn't sound to me like you do.
What the fuck? You think this is a fucking joke? We are serious quitters up in here. Make a commitment and a promise and stick with it.
Q.D. 6-15-09
HOF 9-22-09
2'nd floor 12-31-09
3'rd floor 4-10-10
1st year quit 6-14-10
4'th floor 7-19-10

If you cave without using your numbers, I will hunt your stupid, ignorant ass down, tear your fucking head off, shit down your blood squirting neck stump and skull fuck your newly decapitated melon. Have a nice day!

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 01:55:00 PM »
Let 'em have it boys.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 01:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Mville
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Mville
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.
I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
But, if I do, I'm going to try again tomorrow.................
You'll probably crash later? What the hell kind of quitting is that?

You've been 3 hours....go one more, then the next. Minute by minute if you have to. That's how its done.

If you are looking for an easy way, it doesn't exist. You're just lying to yourself. Better screw your head on straight if you really want this.

Doesn't sound to me like you do.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 01:52:00 PM »
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Mville
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.
I just went 3 hours.
I'll probably crash later.
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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 01:46:00 PM »
Quote from: Mville
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
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Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
Weening yourself just delays the pain...you eventually have to put the can down. And when you, it will suck, no matter what. There is no easy way to do this.

All I can tell you is that you will eventually feel better. When that happens is unique to you. Some feel great at 100, others at 1 year.....doesn't matter. The only thing that matter is that you make the choice and stick to it.

Its up to you.....


PS. Your anxiety issues are likely, at least in part, are due to dip. But you'll never know if you don't stop.

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 01:45:00 PM »
Quote from: Mville
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
I am at 117 days and i chewed for 8,395 days so it is too early to tell how I feel.
I do feel better though, lower blood pressure, I sleep better, go to sleep better, my wife blows me more, ect.....it gets better every day you are quit

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 01:31:00 PM »
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
Answer this one, honestly. Do you really feel better after HOF (100 days)? I quit drinking once and lost some weight. But I swear, I didn't feel any better physically. I'm going to quit this snuff shit. I just don't know if it will be better cold turkey or wean myself over a 1 week period. I already have anxiety issues, so this should be just fucking great.
"The early bird might get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese"

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 01:11:00 PM »
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
what woulda happened if it when it " got so bad" you didn't go to the store and buy one. ?

Would you have died?

answer- is the crave would have eventually gone away. Of course it would be followed with another one , then that one goes away, and then another. Some bigger some smaller. Like your in a fox hole and waves of the enemy keep coming trying to break thru the line. You take em on one crave at a time. YOu don't worry about tomorrow, you fight for today. Your solution? in this analogy you would have said something along the lines of
"there are too many big scary bad guys and gee fellas I'm scared to keep fighting so I'm just going to shoot myself in the junk and go home."

I guess if your not planning on using your balls to quit, you might as well shoot em off . Quit or don't, there is no middle ground, its not hard if you accept that its going to suck, and it isnt going to be fun, and it is going to take a long time to break free from a lifetime of addiction. There is no magic cure. As soon as you stop stuffing your face with dip your on your way.

If you can quit a minute then you can quit for 10. If you can quit for that long you can quit for an hour. 24 hours to reach a day then 3 days. At that point the nicotine has left the building and it becomes a mental game. YOur quit self against your addict self.

sm 456
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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 12:44:00 PM »
Quote from: Mville
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
The best way to kick it is to stop putting it in your mouth.
Sounds pretty hard? It is.

Sounds over simplified? Because it is.

There's not a whole lot to it. There are no magic tricks that make it easy. Man up and quit throwing the worm dirt in your head.

Slowing down doesn't work. Cutting back doesn't work. Schedulding your quit for the third Thursday after the next blue moon doesn't work. Nicorette won't work either.

Cold turkey right now does work.

The good news - In 3 days, the nicotine is out of your system and the physical cravings will subside. It's a hell of a ride, but your man enough, right? It's only three days.

Next, you'll tell me how I wasn't addicted as you are, or how I just don't understand your particular situation. Believe me, we've heard it all. Hell, most of us have said it all. This is just the brain of the addict talking. We understand where you're coming from, but we don't believe you. We know better. We've seen the other side.

Right now you have no way to know this, and no reason to believe me, but THIS DOES GET BETTER.

Toss out your stash, and begin your quit. It's worth it.
"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job." - Sir Winston Churchill

"Not using gets much easier as time goes by, but the consequences of "just one" never lessen." - Me

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Re: Advise for a snuffaholic
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 12:38:00 PM »
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What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
Cold. Fucking. Turkey.

Sack up and get your quit on. If you stop right now, you will have 95% of the physical withdrawal bullshit out of the way in three days. If you try mixing, nic gum, patches, "cutting back" etc you will put yourself through hell, dragging the withdrawals out for months.

Either way you look at it, you are going to feel like shit for a while. If you stop all forms of nicotine completely, it is over much MUCH faster.

Here's how you can quit with the support of this forum:
1. First thing each day, give your promise to a group of other quitters, who are going through the exact same thing, that you will not use nicotine today. Just today; worry about tomorrow when it gets here.
2. Keep your promise. Do not use nicotine, just for today.
3. Come back first thing tomorrow morning and do it again.

Check out the Welcome Center for more information on how the site works.

You are stronger than you give yourself credit for, you can do this. Start right now.

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Advise for a snuffaholic
« on: April 27, 2010, 12:20:00 PM »
Time to quit. Funny how you remember your first chew. Mine was around age 10. Copenhagen, almost remember the buzz it gave me. Then good ole mom bought me snuff while I was still in school, Happy Days and Hawkins. Then it was just Copenhagen until it got too expensive and then I've been stuck on Red Seal. Have went from 2 cans/day to 1 can over the years. The Nic Bitch is going to be hell to get rid of. Started over the weekend. Got so bad on Sunday I jumped in the truck and came back with a can. Monday I made it all day on a 1/2 can. I can't remember ever doing that. I've never quit in my whole life, not even when I was sick with the flu. I ordered up some Smokey Mt Classic to try the mixing. The only way I could do it cold turkey is if somebody locked me up. I'm sick of the stinking spit bottles rolling around on the floor boards, knocking over spit cups in the house and office. Ruining pillows is another classic. I get it so bad I get up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs (to put wood in the stove) and get a fatty in my lip. And deer hunting, how many times have I spooked deer that should have been d-e-a-d? I know of a guy who got cancer and while he was in the hospital, all he could think about was smashing another chew in his face.
So. What is the best way to kick this Nic Bitch?
"The early bird might get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese"