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[pky1520]

Hey Griz, ya know what? 3 days is hardcore man! Is it gonna be tough when you get back to work? Yep. Are you gonna crave like day 1? Probably. But you already know you can make it through 24 hours. You've already done it three, nearly four times now!

Get a notebook and list the hours of the day in it. Take it to work. X off each hour as you make it through them. Do this for two weeks. I guarantee by mid second week you will be forgetting to X off hours cause your brain will start getting trained to go longer and longer without that stuff.

After the second or third week, or whenever you feel comfortable doing it, switch the hours to days and start marking those babies off. It works. Besides my word and accountability on this site, it's the only thing that kept me quit. There is something about seeing it written down in front of you that really works.

Great to have you here with us. Remember that every single one of us on this site has gone through exactly what you are experiencing. We know full well what you are going through and we stand with you. It gets better, much better, I promise.

Stay strong brother!

This is awesome because this is EXACTLY what I've been doing. I was going one hour at a time and driving my wife and son nuts by saying "31 hours without a chew".
That's how hard I was feening: I had to go hourly and I was actually checking the time perpetually. Today, I didn't check off the last 10 hours until it dawned on me I was well past 72 hours.
Progress is progress.
All I know is this: Today was better than yesterday and yesterday was better than the day before. I'll take that...and I'll be diligent tomorrow as well.
Thank you, tabrow! Know you're appreciated.

Reading your intro is an absolute blast. I'm sorry you're going through the shit right now, but I'm glad that you're documenting it for posterity. One day soon you'll read back through this and get a kick out of how you let some damn chemical put you through this. The great thing is, you'll never have to experience this again.

[GrizzlySlave]

Hey Griz, ya know what? 3 days is hardcore man! Is it gonna be tough when you get back to work? Yep. Are you gonna crave like day 1? Probably. But you already know you can make it through 24 hours. You've already done it three, nearly four times now!

Get a notebook and list the hours of the day in it. Take it to work. X off each hour as you make it through them. Do this for two weeks. I guarantee by mid second week you will be forgetting to X off hours cause your brain will start getting trained to go longer and longer without that stuff.

After the second or third week, or whenever you feel comfortable doing it, switch the hours to days and start marking those babies off. It works. Besides my word and accountability on this site, it's the only thing that kept me quit. There is something about seeing it written down in front of you that really works.

Great to have you here with us. Remember that every single one of us on this site has gone through exactly what you are experiencing. We know full well what you are going through and we stand with you. It gets better, much better, I promise.

Stay strong brother!

This is awesome because this is EXACTLY what I've been doing. I was going one hour at a time and driving my wife and son nuts by saying "31 hours without a chew".
That's how hard I was feening: I had to go hourly and I was actually checking the time perpetually. Today, I didn't check off the last 10 hours until it dawned on me I was well past 72 hours.
Progress is progress.
All I know is this: Today was better than yesterday and yesterday was better than the day before. I'll take that...and I'll be diligent tomorrow as well.
Thank you, tabrow! Know you're appreciated.

[TabRow3]

Hey Griz, ya know what? 3 days is hardcore man! Is it gonna be tough when you get back to work? Yep. Are you gonna crave like day 1? Probably. But you already know you can make it through 24 hours. You've already done it three, nearly four times now!

Get a notebook and list the hours of the day in it. Take it to work. X off each hour as you make it through them. Do this for two weeks. I guarantee by mid second week you will be forgetting to X off hours cause your brain will start getting trained to go longer and longer without that stuff.

After the second or third week, or whenever you feel comfortable doing it, switch the hours to days and start marking those babies off. It works. Besides my word and accountability on this site, it's the only thing that kept me quit. There is something about seeing it written down in front of you that really works.

Great to have you here with us. Remember that every single one of us on this site has gone through exactly what you are experiencing. We know full well what you are going through and we stand with you. It gets better, much better, I promise.

Stay strong brother!

[GrizzlySlave]

GrizzlySlave,

Congrats. The physical withdrawal is over. THAT WAS THE EASY PART. You see, the MENTAL mind games nicotine addiction will continue to play with you are far more sinister than mere physical withdrawals. I will attempt to explain, but before I do, I want to ensure you know what is meant by the phrase "Embrace the SUCK". You need to NEVER forget what you went through in the past few days, and what likely you will continue to go through..... The day you forget what it's like to have to go through withdrawals, you'll lose this battle. I don't want you to lose....Okay, back to the mental withdrawals.....

During the time you were an active user, ingesting enough poison on a daily basis to kill a small laboratory animal on a daily basis, you brain built MILLIONS of additional dopamine receptors in your brain housing group. Now that you've stopped the nicotine drip, they are VERY SLOWLY dying off. I like to think of them as crazed little nicotine beastie addicts jumping up and down inside your brain housing group, hence the rage, the irritability, the fog, the dizziness, etc.... Rest assured, they WILL eventually settle down. It WILL take some time. NEVER forget how much of a pain in the ass it was to get over this....There is a saying on this forum...."never forget Day 1. The day you forget Day 1, you lose." Don't Lose.

One final thought. I have searched the webs repeatedly for a few years now, trying to find ANY shred of evidence that nicotine withdrawal has actually KILLED someone. I never did. So keep the faith.....even during your WORST craves, you won't die. Check your PM. My digits are there if you need to talk.

I quit on 10 June, 2014 after nearly four damn DECADES of Copenhagen abuse. If I can do this, you can too!

With you today!

Much obliged.

[CavMan83]

GrizzlySlave,

Congrats. The physical withdrawal is over. THAT WAS THE EASY PART. You see, the MENTAL mind games nicotine addiction will continue to play with you are far more sinister than mere physical withdrawals. I will attempt to explain, but before I do, I want to ensure you know what is meant by the phrase "Embrace the SUCK". You need to NEVER forget what you went through in the past few days, and what likely you will continue to go through..... The day you forget what it's like to have to go through withdrawals, you'll lose this battle. I don't want you to lose....Okay, back to the mental withdrawals.....

During the time you were an active user, ingesting enough poison on a daily basis to kill a small laboratory animal on a daily basis, you brain built MILLIONS of additional dopamine receptors in your brain housing group. Now that you've stopped the nicotine drip, they are VERY SLOWLY dying off. I like to think of them as crazed little nicotine beastie addicts jumping up and down inside your brain housing group, hence the rage, the irritability, the fog, the dizziness, etc.... Rest assured, they WILL eventually settle down. It WILL take some time. NEVER forget how much of a pain in the ass it was to get over this....There is a saying on this forum...."never forget Day 1. The day you forget Day 1, you lose." Don't Lose.

One final thought. I have searched the webs repeatedly for a few years now, trying to find ANY shred of evidence that nicotine withdrawal has actually KILLED someone. I never did. So keep the faith.....even during your WORST craves, you won't die. Check your PM. My digits are there if you need to talk.

I quit on 10 June, 2014 after nearly four damn DECADES of Copenhagen abuse. If I can do this, you can too!

With you today!

[GrizzlySlave]

Hit 72 hours earlier today. By most calculations, my body is now free of nicotine. Although I feel pretty damn good right now, I wouldn't be surprised if my mind starts shrieking for the nic. Ain't gonna get any today.

(Sorry, brain, you just going to have to suffer. If you make too much noise, I'll stab you with a toothpick!)

Went hiking in the rainforest yesterday and snorkeled for hours today. My body and mind seem to crave stimulating exercise. That's good!

I'm so grateful I have this rare opportunity to go through the detox. I'm privy to the fact there will be challenges when I am immersed back into work and reality...but that's not today. Today, I am enjoying being nicotine free.

[GrizzlySlave]

This is YOUR forum, Grizz, use it as you please.

You have received a lot of good advice so far, so I will just say to read everything you can about this addiction. This site has so much good info, read it all, understand the enemy. I found once I understood what nicotine addiction was all about, what it had done to me, I could look at the quit process a little more objectively. And that helped me immeasurably.

You are almost through the worst of the physical withdrawals. Just plow through the next couple of days and I promise things will ease up. Stay on KTC, get on live chat, exercise, do anything to keep your mind off things. Everytime you plow through a crave and refuse the body nicotine, you destroy triggers. Everytime you say "no" you are bit by bit destroying the demon.

You are doing great. Proud to be quit with you today.

Thank you so much.
(This sucks!)

[FLLipOut]

This is YOUR forum, Grizz, use it as you please.

You have received a lot of good advice so far, so I will just say to read everything you can about this addiction. This site has so much good info, read it all, understand the enemy. I found once I understood what nicotine addiction was all about, what it had done to me, I could look at the quit process a little more objectively. And that helped me immeasurably.

You are almost through the worst of the physical withdrawals. Just plow through the next couple of days and I promise things will ease up. Stay on KTC, get on live chat, exercise, do anything to keep your mind off things. Everytime you plow through a crave and refuse the body nicotine, you destroy triggers. Everytime you say "no" you are bit by bit destroying the demon.

You are doing great. Proud to be quit with you today.

[GrizzlySlave]

Hey!
49 hours!
:P
(I gotta quit posting so much)

[GrizzlySlave]

Thank you all for the advice and rah rah. I never fell asleep last night; however, its a pretty common occurrence for me to be awake for 3-4 days in a row.

I'm quickly approaching 48 hours without nicotine and I'm beginning to feel that this IS possible. Yes, I'm fully aware there are challenges ahead, but I'm having moments this afternoon that aren't bad. I'm going to enjoy them as they come and then wallow through the shitty parts.

[Raider]

Quitting ain't easy but it is so worth it. Know that you have an army of quitters behind you.
I quit over 1200 days ago and still make my promise daily.
Keep up the good work.

[RWBullet]

Thank you kindly for your response.
I'm really not in the mind frame to quit "one day at a time" yet. I AM focused on quitting one hour at a time at this point, however. (almost 30 hours into this)
I hear what you're saying re: the booze. Thanks for pointing this out...it makes sense.
I do believe I could bludgeon a sack full of cute fuzzy creatures with a ball peen hammer right about now.

But if you did that, you'd have at least eight separate problems that I note all BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!! You'll see on this forum sometimes that 1 problem + Nicotine = 2 problems. Well, you have more than that!! Here's what I got. More can probably be added. (And yes, you're just like us. We could make the same lists about ourselves. I'm just getting yours started for you.)

1. You're in Puerto Rico and unable to enjoy it BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
2. You made an ass of yourself in front of your family BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
3. Your withdrawal right now sucks, and as you learn more about this disease of addiction, you could suffer the rewiring attached to quitting for as long as 18 months BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
4. If you kill a bag of small creatures, you could be charged with animal cruelty BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
5. You can't drink for a while BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
6. Biting a head off an iguana won't solve a freaking thing, its bones and teeth could actually damage your entire face as you bite through it, but right now you think it is somehow better than the alternative of going another hour without dip BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
7. You called yourself a slave BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
8. You spend between $3,650 and $5, 475 a year on something in which you will throw away 100% of BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!

You let a plant infused with chemicals control your entire life. We did, too. Stop doing that. I'm 57 days clean and part of every day still sucks a little bit. Some days still suck from start to finish. But listen to EVERY SINGLE person on this forum that has made it 6 months, a year, 2 years, whatever. Not one will tell you they regret quitting. Not one. They all had to go through what you're going through now, and I'm not going to sugar coat it and tell you it's a ton easier after a month or two because it's not, but I know this much. Even if I'm depressed some days, I actually LIKE myself for the first time in my adult life. Stop letting this thing control you. You have a TON of support here to help you out. Join us.

Hombre, I hear you and I'm getting off of this addictive crapola.
Thanks for your response. It's 11:58 pm here. I am going to get up and dip some tea leaves now. My gums are screaming for attention.
31 hours now...

Sent you a PM. Look in the upper right corner of the screen at your Inbox. Click on it.

And if you need to count every hour right now, by all means, count them in different languages if it helps. It's like anything else once you get enough distance from it. Right now you're counting hours. In a couple of weeks, you'll be counting days. Soon after that, you're counting weeks.

In addition, get on this forum and GET INVOLVED. If you're here, you're not dipping. If you're here, you're reading some wisdom from some badass quitters who actually WANT to help you because it helps them stay quit. Congrats in advance on 40 hours when you wake up. Go out there and enjoy Puerto Rico with your family.

Thank you!

Grizzlyslave, I spent my first 5 days in bed sleeping. All I did was get out of bed, eat, piss then sleep again.

Pay attention to your meals and make sure you get three square meals. The craves get much harder when you are hungry so do not let yourself get hungry.

Drink plenty of OJ. When you dip, your brain releases sugars. No more dip. No more sugars. Replace the missing sugars with OJ or some other fruit drink high in sugar. It helps. It helped me.

When you really want a dip, change your minds focus and think about anything else. Engage in an activilty like push ups, running, etc. Something to take your mind off of what you are missing.

Start exercising regularly......

You have made it this far, keep it going. It is so wonderful to take trips and visit family wihout hiding every hour or so to do a dip. Great to eat dinner without spoiling it with a dip afterwards. Great to be able to kiss your wife anytime you want instead of telling her to wait until you spit out your wad and brush your teeth. Great to drive a car without a spit bottom rolling around the floor of your car spilling and stinking everything up. The list goes on and on.

I was like you, but it took me 40 years before I quit.

I quit with you today.

And I quit with you today as well. I appreciate your supportive words and advice.

Hey got ur PM grizz, check your inbox, share them digits brother! Go to the store and look in the herbs section, grab some mint leaves, when a craving hits chew on a few mint leaves, it worked for me. Talk to a few of these crusty old vets, they will help you. There are lots of tools to use from this site, dont forget your not alone in this fight, that bitch called nic will not get the best of me today! I quit with you today!

[GrizzlySlave]

Thank you kindly for your response.
I'm really not in the mind frame to quit "one day at a time" yet. I AM focused on quitting one hour at a time at this point, however. (almost 30 hours into this)
I hear what you're saying re: the booze. Thanks for pointing this out...it makes sense.
I do believe I could bludgeon a sack full of cute fuzzy creatures with a ball peen hammer right about now.

But if you did that, you'd have at least eight separate problems that I note all BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!! You'll see on this forum sometimes that 1 problem + Nicotine = 2 problems. Well, you have more than that!! Here's what I got. More can probably be added. (And yes, you're just like us. We could make the same lists about ourselves. I'm just getting yours started for you.)

1. You're in Puerto Rico and unable to enjoy it BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
2. You made an ass of yourself in front of your family BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
3. Your withdrawal right now sucks, and as you learn more about this disease of addiction, you could suffer the rewiring attached to quitting for as long as 18 months BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
4. If you kill a bag of small creatures, you could be charged with animal cruelty BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
5. You can't drink for a while BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
6. Biting a head off an iguana won't solve a freaking thing, its bones and teeth could actually damage your entire face as you bite through it, but right now you think it is somehow better than the alternative of going another hour without dip BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
7. You called yourself a slave BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
8. You spend between $3,650 and $5, 475 a year on something in which you will throw away 100% of BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!

You let a plant infused with chemicals control your entire life. We did, too. Stop doing that. I'm 57 days clean and part of every day still sucks a little bit. Some days still suck from start to finish. But listen to EVERY SINGLE person on this forum that has made it 6 months, a year, 2 years, whatever. Not one will tell you they regret quitting. Not one. They all had to go through what you're going through now, and I'm not going to sugar coat it and tell you it's a ton easier after a month or two because it's not, but I know this much. Even if I'm depressed some days, I actually LIKE myself for the first time in my adult life. Stop letting this thing control you. You have a TON of support here to help you out. Join us.

Hombre, I hear you and I'm getting off of this addictive crapola.
Thanks for your response. It's 11:58 pm here. I am going to get up and dip some tea leaves now. My gums are screaming for attention.
31 hours now...

Sent you a PM. Look in the upper right corner of the screen at your Inbox. Click on it.

And if you need to count every hour right now, by all means, count them in different languages if it helps. It's like anything else once you get enough distance from it. Right now you're counting hours. In a couple of weeks, you'll be counting days. Soon after that, you're counting weeks.

In addition, get on this forum and GET INVOLVED. If you're here, you're not dipping. If you're here, you're reading some wisdom from some badass quitters who actually WANT to help you because it helps them stay quit. Congrats in advance on 40 hours when you wake up. Go out there and enjoy Puerto Rico with your family.

Thank you!

Grizzlyslave, I spent my first 5 days in bed sleeping. All I did was get out of bed, eat, piss then sleep again.

Pay attention to your meals and make sure you get three square meals. The craves get much harder when you are hungry so do not let yourself get hungry.

Drink plenty of OJ. When you dip, your brain releases sugars. No more dip. No more sugars. Replace the missing sugars with OJ or some other fruit drink high in sugar. It helps. It helped me.

When you really want a dip, change your minds focus and think about anything else. Engage in an activilty like push ups, running, etc. Something to take your mind off of what you are missing.

Start exercising regularly......

You have made it this far, keep it going. It is so wonderful to take trips and visit family wihout hiding every hour or so to do a dip. Great to eat dinner without spoiling it with a dip afterwards. Great to be able to kiss your wife anytime you want instead of telling her to wait until you spit out your wad and brush your teeth. Great to drive a car without a spit bottom rolling around the floor of your car spilling and stinking everything up. The list goes on and on.

I was like you, but it took me 40 years before I quit.

I quit with you today.

And I quit with you today as well. I appreciate your supportive words and advice.

[Dundippin]

Thank you kindly for your response.
I'm really not in the mind frame to quit "one day at a time" yet. I AM focused on quitting one hour at a time at this point, however. (almost 30 hours into this)
I hear what you're saying re: the booze. Thanks for pointing this out...it makes sense.
I do believe I could bludgeon a sack full of cute fuzzy creatures with a ball peen hammer right about now.

But if you did that, you'd have at least eight separate problems that I note all BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!! You'll see on this forum sometimes that 1 problem + Nicotine = 2 problems. Well, you have more than that!! Here's what I got. More can probably be added. (And yes, you're just like us. We could make the same lists about ourselves. I'm just getting yours started for you.)

1. You're in Puerto Rico and unable to enjoy it BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
2. You made an ass of yourself in front of your family BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
3. Your withdrawal right now sucks, and as you learn more about this disease of addiction, you could suffer the rewiring attached to quitting for as long as 18 months BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
4. If you kill a bag of small creatures, you could be charged with animal cruelty BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
5. You can't drink for a while BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
6. Biting a head off an iguana won't solve a freaking thing, its bones and teeth could actually damage your entire face as you bite through it, but right now you think it is somehow better than the alternative of going another hour without dip BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
7. You called yourself a slave BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
8. You spend between $3,650 and $5, 475 a year on something in which you will throw away 100% of BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!

You let a plant infused with chemicals control your entire life. We did, too. Stop doing that. I'm 57 days clean and part of every day still sucks a little bit. Some days still suck from start to finish. But listen to EVERY SINGLE person on this forum that has made it 6 months, a year, 2 years, whatever. Not one will tell you they regret quitting. Not one. They all had to go through what you're going through now, and I'm not going to sugar coat it and tell you it's a ton easier after a month or two because it's not, but I know this much. Even if I'm depressed some days, I actually LIKE myself for the first time in my adult life. Stop letting this thing control you. You have a TON of support here to help you out. Join us.

Hombre, I hear you and I'm getting off of this addictive crapola.
Thanks for your response. It's 11:58 pm here. I am going to get up and dip some tea leaves now. My gums are screaming for attention.
31 hours now...

Sent you a PM. Look in the upper right corner of the screen at your Inbox. Click on it.

And if you need to count every hour right now, by all means, count them in different languages if it helps. It's like anything else once you get enough distance from it. Right now you're counting hours. In a couple of weeks, you'll be counting days. Soon after that, you're counting weeks.

In addition, get on this forum and GET INVOLVED. If you're here, you're not dipping. If you're here, you're reading some wisdom from some badass quitters who actually WANT to help you because it helps them stay quit. Congrats in advance on 40 hours when you wake up. Go out there and enjoy Puerto Rico with your family.

Thank you!

Grizzlyslave, I spent my first 5 days in bed sleeping. All I did was get out of bed, eat, piss then sleep again.

Pay attention to your meals and make sure you get three square meals. The craves get much harder when you are hungry so do not let yourself get hungry.

Drink plenty of OJ. When you dip, your brain releases sugars. No more dip. No more sugars. Replace the missing sugars with OJ or some other fruit drink high in sugar. It helps. It helped me.

When you really want a dip, change your minds focus and think about anything else. Engage in an activilty like push ups, running, etc. Something to take your mind off of what you are missing.

Start exercising regularly......

You have made it this far, keep it going. It is so wonderful to take trips and visit family wihout hiding every hour or so to do a dip. Great to eat dinner without spoiling it with a dip afterwards. Great to be able to kiss your wife anytime you want instead of telling her to wait until you spit out your wad and brush your teeth. Great to drive a car without a spit bottom rolling around the floor of your car spilling and stinking everything up. The list goes on and on.

I was like you, but it took me 40 years before I quit.

I quit with you today.

[GrizzlySlave]

Thank you kindly for your response.
I'm really not in the mind frame to quit "one day at a time" yet. I AM focused on quitting one hour at a time at this point, however. (almost 30 hours into this)
I hear what you're saying re: the booze. Thanks for pointing this out...it makes sense.
I do believe I could bludgeon a sack full of cute fuzzy creatures with a ball peen hammer right about now.

But if you did that, you'd have at least eight separate problems that I note all BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!! You'll see on this forum sometimes that 1 problem + Nicotine = 2 problems. Well, you have more than that!! Here's what I got. More can probably be added. (And yes, you're just like us. We could make the same lists about ourselves. I'm just getting yours started for you.)

1. You're in Puerto Rico and unable to enjoy it BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
2. You made an ass of yourself in front of your family BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
3. Your withdrawal right now sucks, and as you learn more about this disease of addiction, you could suffer the rewiring attached to quitting for as long as 18 months BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
4. If you kill a bag of small creatures, you could be charged with animal cruelty BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
5. You can't drink for a while BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
6. Biting a head off an iguana won't solve a freaking thing, its bones and teeth could actually damage your entire face as you bite through it, but right now you think it is somehow better than the alternative of going another hour without dip BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
7. You called yourself a slave BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!
8. You spend between $3,650 and $5, 475 a year on something in which you will throw away 100% of BECAUSE OF NICOTINE!!

You let a plant infused with chemicals control your entire life. We did, too. Stop doing that. I'm 57 days clean and part of every day still sucks a little bit. Some days still suck from start to finish. But listen to EVERY SINGLE person on this forum that has made it 6 months, a year, 2 years, whatever. Not one will tell you they regret quitting. Not one. They all had to go through what you're going through now, and I'm not going to sugar coat it and tell you it's a ton easier after a month or two because it's not, but I know this much. Even if I'm depressed some days, I actually LIKE myself for the first time in my adult life. Stop letting this thing control you. You have a TON of support here to help you out. Join us.

Hombre, I hear you and I'm getting off of this addictive crapola.
Thanks for your response. It's 11:58 pm here. I am going to get up and dip some tea leaves now. My gums are screaming for attention.
31 hours now...

Sent you a PM. Look in the upper right corner of the screen at your Inbox. Click on it.

And if you need to count every hour right now, by all means, count them in different languages if it helps. It's like anything else once you get enough distance from it. Right now you're counting hours. In a couple of weeks, you'll be counting days. Soon after that, you're counting weeks.

In addition, get on this forum and GET INVOLVED. If you're here, you're not dipping. If you're here, you're reading some wisdom from some badass quitters who actually WANT to help you because it helps them stay quit. Congrats in advance on 40 hours when you wake up. Go out there and enjoy Puerto Rico with your family.

Thank you!