First Day

[jayd41]

As I am a noob, i know my weight doesn't get very far but here is my 2 cents...I think that this a great site...

I think the point of this site is to help get people to quit chewing that want the help and the encouragement to do so. If that person is under 18 then there needs to be some sort of secondary course of action they can take while using KTC.

Language is going to be a part of this site and i understand it...i have just as bad of a mouth on me as anyone, but i also not only believe but i know for a fact as all of you do too...that 14-18 year olds probably can hang with us older guys when it comes to the language. So language, no a problem for those looking to quit.

If the admin can make the rule that you have to be 18, they can change that rule as well. The link that i read specifically mentioned sexually explicit material. Well i would rather have someone change their "suggestive" avatars in order for us to save a few younger lives. I mean we have the Sean Marsee story and almost every member on this site has outlived Sean Marsee. The story is relevant to us but it is VERY relevant to those that start this awful mess before they are 18.

As a disclaimer, i have no problem with One Impressive's avatar (it makes me chuckle) or kk's avatar (makes me feel like when we used to climb the rope in gym class), but i would imagine both would happily change their avatars in order to save a life of a fellow quitter that happens to be under 18.

And lastly, if the admin has to worry about creepy old dudes soliciting sex from a minor on this site, well then boys and girls we have some bigger fish to fry.

Just my 2 cents...i have much respect for the administration and the moderators of this site but i do think this could be changed.

[wastepanel]

I will ask the same question on this thread as i did on another youngster trying to quit...why would we turn away someone that is under 18 that is trying to quit?  I would venture to say that 97% of the members on this site started when they were under 18...hell probably under 16.  It's not like we are promoting anything that is illegal here.

I read the board guidelines..... And I gotta say the under 18 clause is crap. Are we telling this kid that he needs to battle his addiction without any support for another year? What If he gets cancer in that year? I don't want that on my conscience! Most of us started under 18, and we weren't smart enough to ask for help! I wanna see this kid succeed. Lets not get caught up in red tape. Lets support of fellow brothers!

Here is a link to the North Carolina quitline to help with quitting. I don't think we can selectively apply when the rules fit or do not. It's pretty clearly laid out. 18 or over. I want him to be quit too and here is the link for help.

QuitlineNC

The rules are what the rules are.

I've been saying it for a while as well: there is a void in this area of quitters. Perhaps we could all work together and create a program to assist younger quitters. But as of right now, the Ktc is not for those under 18.

[traumagnet]

nstep.org
The National Spit Tobacco Education Program's mission is to prevent people, especially young people, from starting to use spit tobacco, and to help all users quit.

[traumagnet]

mylastdip.com
A research project, funded in part by the National Institutes of Health, to help youth, ages 14-25, quit using chewing tobacco.

[jayd41]

I will post the same advice as i did for our other young member who will probably get kicked off for not being old enough to quit on this site...

If your parents don't know, you need to tell them and tell them that you are quitting and you will need their help. If your dad/mom smokes or dips try to get them involved as well. If you have a girlfriend that doesn't smoke or dip tell her that you are quitting and tell her every day that you didn't chew. I tell my wife every night whether or not she asks or not that i didn't chew that day.

If you have a good relationship with a school counselor/teacher/coach janitor whoever, tell them. Go to the principal or whoever and organize a group of quitters during your school's activity period. Some schools have this every day some just once a week but i guarantee you'd get kids to join with you.

Anyhow, i will state for the record that it's bullshit that you have to leave, but i think if you follow the advice that i and others have laid out for you, you can have a successful quit!

[rustaf]

I will ask the same question on this thread as i did on another youngster trying to quit...why would we turn away someone that is under 18 that is trying to quit?  I would venture to say that 97% of the members on this site started when they were under 18...hell probably under 16.  It's not like we are promoting anything that is illegal here.

I read the board guidelines..... And I gotta say the under 18 clause is crap. Are we telling this kid that he needs to battle his addiction without any support for another year? What If he gets cancer in that year? I don't want that on my conscience! Most of us started under 18, and we weren't smart enough to ask for help! I wanna see this kid succeed. Lets not get caught up in red tape. Lets support of fellow brothers!

Here is a link to the North Carolina quitline to help with quitting. I don't think we can selectively apply when the rules fit or do not. It's pretty clearly laid out. 18 or over. I want him to be quit too and here is the link for help.

QuitlineNC

[jake frawley]

I will ask the same question on this thread as i did on another youngster trying to quit...why would we turn away someone that is under 18 that is trying to quit? I would venture to say that 97% of the members on this site started when they were under 18...hell probably under 16. It's not like we are promoting anything that is illegal here.

I read the board guidelines..... And I gotta say the under 18 clause is crap. Are we telling this kid that he needs to battle his addiction without any support for another year? What If he gets cancer in that year? I don't want that on my conscience! Most of us started under 18, and we weren't smart enough to ask for help! I wanna see this kid succeed. Lets not get caught up in red tape. Lets support of fellow brothers!

[Mrdrummerdude2]

Hey man, I'm trying to quit. I'm pretty sure the administrators wouldn't care if I was underage. And like the guy below me said, this site isn't promoting dipping. It's promoting against it.

[jayd41]

I will ask the same question on this thread as i did on another youngster trying to quit...why would we turn away someone that is under 18 that is trying to quit? I would venture to say that 97% of the members on this site started when they were under 18...hell probably under 16. It's not like we are promoting anything that is illegal here.

[ERDVM]

No, I'm not 18. It's just almost a "tradition" in my area to dip, even if your under 18. Even some of the convenience stores will sell dip and tobacco products to underage people. I'll be turning 17 in july. I got started dipping early, but it's not to late to quit early too  :D

Not to be a douche, but isn't there an age requirement to be on the board?

Board Guidelines

[traumagnet]

Drummerboy,
I would have liked to have this tool available at your age however like JayD said I doubt it would have helped. I hope you are learning from what you are reading here and taking in all the advice. I purposesly have stayed away from posting on your thread due to your age but I recently found out that my son (step son I hate the term) was caught with dip by his mother. I have been working on taking the teachings I have learned from here and applying it to him. I have him post roll so to speak with me. Well we actually post it to eachother. My goal is that he will get a handle on it early. I want him and you to ditch the dip and clean up enjoy your life free of being a slave to an addiction.

[jake frawley]

HOLY FUCK- HOLY FUCK- HOLY FUCK!

I wish to God I could go back and be as smart as this kid! Bro! Stay quit! There is not a person here who doesn't wish we had quit when we were 16. You have life by the balls. You can do anything without chew! God I envy you and your age. It is hard to quit no matter how old and how many years you have chewed, but I pray you stay quit. You will make this site worth it all.... Helping a person so young quit! That would be the greatest.


P.S. don't mean to talk like your a kid... I just think it would be amazing to see someone stand up to the NIC BITCH at such a young age! We got your back!

In retrospect..... Sorry for the opening language!

[jake frawley]

HOLY FUCK- HOLY FUCK- HOLY FUCK!

I wish to God I could go back and be as smart as this kid! Bro! Stay quit! There is not a person here who doesn't wish we had quit when we were 16. You have life by the balls. You can do anything without chew! God I envy you and your age. It is hard to quit no matter how old and how many years you have chewed, but I pray you stay quit. You will make this site worth it all.... Helping a person so young quit! That would be the greatest.


P.S. don't mean to talk like your a kid... I just think it would be amazing to see someone stand up to the NIC BITCH at such a young age! We got your back!

[Radman]

No, I'm not 18. It's just almost a "tradition" in my area to dip, even if your under 18. Even some of the convenience stores will sell dip and tobacco products to underage people. I'll be turning 17 in july. I got started dipping early, but it's not to late to quit early too  :D

ok...17? Really? You gotta get a handle on this dude...Don't know if you read the Sean Marsee story if you haven't already. And unless you grew up in the inner city, almost every school has a "tradition" of dipping. I was 6'5" in 7th grade so i was able to buy it all back then.

Anyways, i would venture to say that almost everyone on here was about your age or younger when the started and wishes they had the maturity to put it down back then. The addiction is hard to battle but adding a layer of piss and vinegar that most teenage boys have and it makes it insanely difficult. You have shown some maturity by coming on this site and posting...but you are going to have to grow up quickly to to handle this on a day to day basis.

Same here.... 6'-4", started getting gray hair in high school. I could buy whatever I wanted whereever I wanted. Fail. I was a dumbass.

Drummer..... I'm from the south, so I feel your pain. Man, it was the thing to do. Bullshit. I fell victim to peer pressure and a stereotypical addiction. Read my HOF speech. It's all in there, and I'll bet you'll see some similarities. I still harbor some anger about my addiction, but I focus it to keep me quit. I now, my HOF speech talks about "habit". I was still an idiot when I wrote that. I've wised up since then.

[rustaf]

No, I'm not 18. It's just almost a "tradition" in my area to dip, even if your under 18. Even some of the convenience stores will sell dip and tobacco products to underage people. I'll be turning 17 in july. I got started dipping early, but it's not to late to quit early too :D

Not to be a douche, but isn't there an age requirement to be on the board?