I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax - I'm mostly with you here. Thank you for volunteering and putting forth the effort.
Despite these other quitters' motivational strategy, not unlike that of R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket (we remember what happened to him in the movie, right...? These guys would get fragged too. I'd do it myself...), they have a valid point, just not the fucking courtesy to encourage you to edit your post. They just attack. They are clearly full of vitriol. That's got nothing to do with how long they've been quit. I am just as quit as them, just for less days. Being that nasty is a way of life. It's full time. I too, have been a part of something similar VERY early on at this site. Wait til you see what happens when these guys "look me up..."
Here's what I say. Yes, POST FUCKING ROLL. Keep your word. Keep your promise. Post every day, make and keep your promise. Yes, do whatever you can to make sure your post is up there to be counted. Make every effort toward that.
You know what though? If I post roll at 5:30AM Eastern Standard Time at the start of my day, and someone who hasn't figured out how NOT to bump and screw someone up posts at 10:00PM Pacific Time while I am in bed... I wake up to a new day and post for my new day. I'd never know my previous day was erased.
Points being:
1) I do feel you left the "window open" for people to be lax with posting roll in your original post. Had i seen it, i would have immediately suggested you edit it.
2) I do "get it" that you can get bumped. It happens. If I wasn't on this site so much (desktop, iPhone AND iPad) or had the help of lcwb96, I would have been bumped a couple of times in my 30 days.
Don't sweat these guys. They try to motivate and educate through belittling and embarrassment. It's hazing. I know hazing. I was guilty of it. They made a fucking movie about it. Similar tactics nearly drove me away from the site and possibly right back to the can.
Hey, look at the bright side, at least you aren't their spouse or child...
