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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2014, 02:20:00 PM »
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Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
Jerry 229
You got this man! I was also much in the same boat. I used fake for about the first 100 days or more, then just decided fuck it I was done; I have since used some fake from time to time when a circumstance of life presented itself. I always made it OK because it was better than caving. However, it was a crutch and I was damned if I needed a crutch or a cane. Since then I have found that Hot Tamales work great as my crutch, yet note to self if left in a pants pocket they fuck up a load of laundry.

During the transition I faced several dark days of life (death of a loved one, marital problems, mother's cancer...) it was never easy and it seemed as though life kept throwing me curveballs. Well just like when playing baseball I decided that it was time to swing at a curveball in lieu of staring at it as it passed. The can of Smokey Mountain in my bag is well over 6 months old and is still sealed up tight, yet reading your post just made me open it, dump it and flush it.

I am with you bud, fuck it neither of us need a crutch.

P
Couple of things bd. I quit the fake around day 40 and missed it for a couple days, then it subsided little by little each day. 1 week and I felt much better.

Find something to get that mind going in a different direction. Exercise, fishing. Hell i know a guy that likes to crochet. I could see you knitting a doggy sweater or something like that. Maybe a footy. Whatever works brother. Quit with you.
I don't know about quitting the fake stuff so early. I swore by it getting me by for the first 200 days. Then I finally was able to wean myself off the fake stuff but the oral fixations would come back when doing yard work, fishing, having a beer on Friday night. It got to be a pain in the a$$ having to run to Wal-Mart just to buy it and waiting for Hooch to come in the mail didn't help with the fixations at a given time. So I went to my old standby, coffee grounds, I hate that stuff but it worked at a moments notice.

At day 464 I have not put fake stuff in or coffee grounds in about 100 days. Give it some time, you'll get through this little roller coaster ride. Just wait for it, you'll be glad you did. Trust me on that!

I don't know about the "footy" thing though. 'winker' Proud of you brother!
I'm sorry you're having a rough time with this part, but it too will pass.

When I gave it up, I had seeds and other supplies on hand. I never skipped a beat, but I preplanned just to be safe. Have an alternative to the alternative ready. I like cherries in the summer. They're tart, and the seeds give you something to do.
I'm finding this convo fascinating.
I never did the fake stuff at all. I... KNEW I needed to break my oral fixation right off the bat. I became an atomic fireball fiend. I can get 'em in bulk so I hoarded them by the freakin' pound. At some point in all this I, like many others, decided to get in better shape physically. At 43 I'm in decent shape but it can always be better y'know. Diet was a step in that process... Sugar in particular. The atomic fireballs had to go. No big deal right? Damned if giving those up didn't cause me a li'l anxiety. Even at 400+ days. Kinda pissed me off really.

Power through man. Your head is in the right place. That's your win right there...
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
Quote from: Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
Jerry 229
You got this man! I was also much in the same boat. I used fake for about the first 100 days or more, then just decided fuck it I was done; I have since used some fake from time to time when a circumstance of life presented itself. I always made it OK because it was better than caving. However, it was a crutch and I was damned if I needed a crutch or a cane. Since then I have found that Hot Tamales work great as my crutch, yet note to self if left in a pants pocket they fuck up a load of laundry.

During the transition I faced several dark days of life (death of a loved one, marital problems, mother's cancer...) it was never easy and it seemed as though life kept throwing me curveballs. Well just like when playing baseball I decided that it was time to swing at a curveball in lieu of staring at it as it passed. The can of Smokey Mountain in my bag is well over 6 months old and is still sealed up tight, yet reading your post just made me open it, dump it and flush it.

I am with you bud, fuck it neither of us need a crutch.

P
Couple of things bd. I quit the fake around day 40 and missed it for a couple days, then it subsided little by little each day. 1 week and I felt much better.

Find something to get that mind going in a different direction. Exercise, fishing. Hell i know a guy that likes to crochet. I could see you knitting a doggy sweater or something like that. Maybe a footy. Whatever works brother. Quit with you.
I don't know about quitting the fake stuff so early. I swore by it getting me by for the first 200 days. Then I finally was able to wean myself off the fake stuff but the oral fixations would come back when doing yard work, fishing, having a beer on Friday night. It got to be a pain in the a$$ having to run to Wal-Mart just to buy it and waiting for Hooch to come in the mail didn't help with the fixations at a given time. So I went to my old standby, coffee grounds, I hate that stuff but it worked at a moments notice.

At day 464 I have not put fake stuff in or coffee grounds in about 100 days. Give it some time, you'll get through this little roller coaster ride. Just wait for it, you'll be glad you did. Trust me on that!

I don't know about the "footy" thing though. 'winker' Proud of you brother!
I'm sorry you're having a rough time with this part, but it too will pass.

When I gave it up, I had seeds and other supplies on hand. I never skipped a beat, but I preplanned just to be safe. Have an alternative to the alternative ready. I like cherries in the summer. They're tart, and the seeds give you something to do.
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2014, 01:37:00 PM »
Bulldog, you are one bad ass quitter and let me tell you from my perspective you are quit. We all know we are addicts and we always will be, but I think you are just fighting a habit here. One that you will most certainly win.

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2014, 01:19:00 PM »
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
Jerry 229
You got this man! I was also much in the same boat. I used fake for about the first 100 days or more, then just decided fuck it I was done; I have since used some fake from time to time when a circumstance of life presented itself. I always made it OK because it was better than caving. However, it was a crutch and I was damned if I needed a crutch or a cane. Since then I have found that Hot Tamales work great as my crutch, yet note to self if left in a pants pocket they fuck up a load of laundry.

During the transition I faced several dark days of life (death of a loved one, marital problems, mother's cancer...) it was never easy and it seemed as though life kept throwing me curveballs. Well just like when playing baseball I decided that it was time to swing at a curveball in lieu of staring at it as it passed. The can of Smokey Mountain in my bag is well over 6 months old and is still sealed up tight, yet reading your post just made me open it, dump it and flush it.

I am with you bud, fuck it neither of us need a crutch.

P
Couple of things bd. I quit the fake around day 40 and missed it for a couple days, then it subsided little by little each day. 1 week and I felt much better.

Find something to get that mind going in a different direction. Exercise, fishing. Hell i know a guy that likes to crochet. I could see you knitting a doggy sweater or something like that. Maybe a footy. Whatever works brother. Quit with you.
I don't know about quitting the fake stuff so early. I swore by it getting me by for the first 200 days. Then I finally was able to wean myself off the fake stuff but the oral fixations would come back when doing yard work, fishing, having a beer on Friday night. It got to be a pain in the a$$ having to run to Wal-Mart just to buy it and waiting for Hooch to come in the mail didn't help with the fixations at a given time. So I went to my old standby, coffee grounds, I hate that stuff but it worked at a moments notice.

At day 464 I have not put fake stuff in or coffee grounds in about 100 days. Give it some time, you'll get through this little roller coaster ride. Just wait for it, you'll be glad you did. Trust me on that!

I don't know about the "footy" thing though. 'winker' Proud of you brother!

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2014, 12:40:00 PM »
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
Jerry 229
You got this man! I was also much in the same boat. I used fake for about the first 100 days or more, then just decided fuck it I was done; I have since used some fake from time to time when a circumstance of life presented itself. I always made it OK because it was better than caving. However, it was a crutch and I was damned if I needed a crutch or a cane. Since then I have found that Hot Tamales work great as my crutch, yet note to self if left in a pants pocket they fuck up a load of laundry.

During the transition I faced several dark days of life (death of a loved one, marital problems, mother's cancer...) it was never easy and it seemed as though life kept throwing me curveballs. Well just like when playing baseball I decided that it was time to swing at a curveball in lieu of staring at it as it passed. The can of Smokey Mountain in my bag is well over 6 months old and is still sealed up tight, yet reading your post just made me open it, dump it and flush it.

I am with you bud, fuck it neither of us need a crutch.

P
Couple of things bd. I quit the fake around day 40 and missed it for a couple days, then it subsided little by little each day. 1 week and I felt much better.

Find something to get that mind going in a different direction. Exercise, fishing. Hell i know a guy that likes to crochet. I could see you knitting a doggy sweater or something like that. Maybe a footy. Whatever works brother. Quit with you.
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #90 on: July 09, 2014, 11:10:00 AM »
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
Jerry 229
You got this man! I was also much in the same boat. I used fake for about the first 100 days or more, then just decided fuck it I was done; I have since used some fake from time to time when a circumstance of life presented itself. I always made it OK because it was better than caving. However, it was a crutch and I was damned if I needed a crutch or a cane. Since then I have found that Hot Tamales work great as my crutch, yet note to self if left in a pants pocket they fuck up a load of laundry.

During the transition I faced several dark days of life (death of a loved one, marital problems, mother's cancer...) it was never easy and it seemed as though life kept throwing me curveballs. Well just like when playing baseball I decided that it was time to swing at a curveball in lieu of staring at it as it passed. The can of Smokey Mountain in my bag is well over 6 months old and is still sealed up tight, yet reading your post just made me open it, dump it and flush it.

I am with you bud, fuck it neither of us need a crutch.

P
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2014, 11:05:00 AM »
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: Bulldog0311
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
Hey Bulldog, Chewie might be onto something . I never used the fake but I am going thru a funky time right now too. I know we will get thru this but it does suck when it sneaks up on you after feeling so good for quite awhile. You got this. We are definitely not alone.
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2014, 10:53:00 AM »
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Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.
Sorry to hear that you're going through this. But super pumped for 2 reason:

1) You're recognizing what you're going through and not chalking it up to "I want dip". You realize that you want the "act" of dipping which is very different.

2) You're recording it. This is super important too and adds a ton of value here. I personally never had a hard time putting down the fake (at around day 220 or so if I remember correctly) but I know that my experience isn't necessarily that of everyone.

That being said... I do find it ironic that you're having these issues at day 220. I had a REALLY rough stretch right around there as well. Call it a 200+ day funk of sorts. Seems you may be getting hit with a similar situation.

The good news (if there is any) is that if your quit follows the same trajectory as mine, you're in for hundreds and hundreds of days of smooth sailing after a few more days of funk.

Rock on!

chewie
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2014, 10:48:00 AM »
Adding a recent and current experience to the "journal" I'm keeping here. I'm at 220 days today.
I spent the first three days of my quit on Tylenol pm. I used jolly ranchers and atomic fireballs. Then I heard about the fake chew. I latched on to it like a drowning man. I have been unilaterally supportive of using the fake stuff since the beginning.
I'm not so much anymore.

I'm now going on two days without it and I'm finding that there is a severe psychological dependency that isn't broken until you stop putting shit in your lip. I'm anxious. I have chewed my lip raw. I have anxiety. I want that fake chew. I recognize these symptoms. I remember them from the nicotine part of this addiction. I feel like I am not free of this shit. Yes I'm nic free but the psychological hold the "lip" has is still there. I'm fighting it right now. This second. Right as I'm typing this.
It's frustrating. I'm disheartened. I feel like I'm in week one again.
I'm going to buy some seeds today.
I thought I was past this.
Well...I'm going to be. You can bet your ass. I'm not letting this shit, fake or not, control me one second longer.
I'm turning that frustration into anger and I refuse to allow that shit any toehold on my heart mind and soul.
If you are new here, just quitting and holding on to the fake stuff I'm going on record as saying its a bad idea. Don't go through the bullshit all over again. Rip the bandaid off in one shot.
Keep no crutches.
That's really what the fake stuff is. It's a crutch. I regret using it based on what I'm feeling right now.

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2014, 09:23:00 PM »
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So as typical i occasionally use this as a journal of my experience quitting. I'm at day 213 today. There have been ups and downs. Craves and easy days. Yesterday was a bad crave day. I wanted a chew all day long. No reason. No stress. No wife fights. Just a bad crave. I powered through. Interesting reminder today.
I'm sick. Sore throat. Feel tired. Weak.
I remember putting a chew in with a sore throat in the old days. It burned. It was uncomfortable but I did it anyway "because it made me feel better." What a fucking addict.
I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that shit anymore. I can just be sick. I don't have to make my sore throat worse by putting poison in it.
I did this so many times as well.... I didn't want a dip and had a terrible sore throat... used to throw one in anyways. Funny to see how dumb our old way of thinking used to be. Way to be quit!
Your quit, like life will have it's up and downs. You've learned how to deal with your craves and you will continue to learn. Lean on your quit brothers hard, they'll understand, they'll be there for you. Good job on day 213, that's some rock solid quit right there boy. Don't forget why you came here in the first place.
We did some stupid shit back then Bulldog. My wife was livid when I had the stomach flu and would keep dipping. One of the best things about quitting is hope simple life is now without planning everything around our next fix. Proud to be quit with you man. Feel better!
Goo job and thanks for sharing.

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2014, 09:19:00 PM »
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Quote from: Bulldog0311
So as typical i occasionally use this as a journal of my experience quitting. I'm at day 213 today. There have been ups and downs. Craves and easy days. Yesterday was a bad crave day. I wanted a chew all day long. No reason. No stress. No wife fights. Just a bad crave. I powered through. Interesting reminder today.
I'm sick. Sore throat. Feel tired. Weak.
I remember putting a chew in with a sore throat in the old days. It burned. It was uncomfortable but I did it anyway "because it made me feel better." What a fucking addict.
I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that shit anymore. I can just be sick. I don't have to make my sore throat worse by putting poison in it.
I did this so many times as well.... I didn't want a dip and had a terrible sore throat... used to throw one in anyways. Funny to see how dumb our old way of thinking used to be. Way to be quit!
Your quit, like life will have it's up and downs. You've learned how to deal with your craves and you will continue to learn. Lean on your quit brothers hard, they'll understand, they'll be there for you. Good job on day 213, that's some rock solid quit right there boy. Don't forget why you came here in the first place.
We did some stupid shit back then Bulldog. My wife was livid when I had the stomach flu and would keep dipping. One of the best things about quitting is hope simple life is now without planning everything around our next fix. Proud to be quit with you man. Feel better!

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #84 on: July 02, 2014, 09:00:00 PM »
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Quote from: Bulldog0311
So as typical i occasionally use this as a journal of my experience quitting. I'm at day 213 today. There have been ups and downs. Craves and easy days. Yesterday was a bad crave day. I wanted a chew all day long. No reason. No stress. No wife fights. Just a bad crave. I powered through. Interesting reminder today.
I'm sick. Sore throat. Feel tired. Weak.
I remember putting a chew in with a sore throat in the old days. It burned. It was uncomfortable but I did it anyway "because it made me feel better." What a fucking addict.
I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that shit anymore. I can just be sick. I don't have to make my sore throat worse by putting poison in it.
I did this so many times as well.... I didn't want a dip and had a terrible sore throat... used to throw one in anyways. Funny to see how dumb our old way of thinking used to be. Way to be quit!
Your quit, like life will have it's up and downs. You've learned how to deal with your craves and you will continue to learn. Lean on your quit brothers hard, they'll understand, they'll be there for you. Good job on day 213, that's some rock solid quit right there boy. Don't forget why you came here in the first place.
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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2014, 03:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Bulldog0311
So as typical i occasionally use this as a journal of my experience quitting. I'm at day 213 today. There have been ups and downs. Craves and easy days. Yesterday was a bad crave day. I wanted a chew all day long. No reason. No stress. No wife fights. Just a bad crave. I powered through. Interesting reminder today.
I'm sick. Sore throat. Feel tired. Weak.
I remember putting a chew in with a sore throat in the old days. It burned. It was uncomfortable but I did it anyway "because it made me feel better." What a fucking addict.
I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that shit anymore. I can just be sick. I don't have to make my sore throat worse by putting poison in it.
I did this so many times as well.... I didn't want a dip and had a terrible sore throat... used to throw one in anyways. Funny to see how dumb our old way of thinking used to be. Way to be quit!

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2014, 03:37:00 PM »
So as typical i occasionally use this as a journal of my experience quitting. I'm at day 213 today. There have been ups and downs. Craves and easy days. Yesterday was a bad crave day. I wanted a chew all day long. No reason. No stress. No wife fights. Just a bad crave. I powered through. Interesting reminder today.
I'm sick. Sore throat. Feel tired. Weak.
I remember putting a chew in with a sore throat in the old days. It burned. It was uncomfortable but I did it anyway "because it made me feel better." What a fucking addict.
I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that shit anymore. I can just be sick. I don't have to make my sore throat worse by putting poison in it.

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Re: Day one...120213
« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
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Badass, made it to 200 days stacked up, one at a time! Way to go brother
Way to be Bulldog! Congrats on 200. See you tomorrow!
Like I told you earlier, the view keeps getting better and better all the time. You drank the Kool-Aid and look what happened. Have continued faith that it will continue to get even better. Proud of you brother!
Way to be Bulldog!
Glad to quit with you!
nicely done Bulldog