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[pvcoach]

Yes I have been here before. Probably 4 or 5 years ago? Different name. I couldn't remember my log in, my password, nothing..
Yep, I will post roll daily. It's noon and still doing good. I have handled several phone calls and little projects No Big Deal!!

[Heisenberg]

Welcome, pvc! Congratulations on making the best possible decision today. Based on your intro, I see two things that tell me you're a badass in the making:

1) You recognize that all forms of nicotine and nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, etc) are complete and utter crap. If you didn't dump that shit along with your tins, go ahead and do so now.

2) You're getting pissed. Good. You should be pissed. You should be pissed at the nic bitch and pissed at yourself. I like to think of it like this. Never forget that you are an addict and you will always be an addict. Use that anger as a reminder and to always stay vigilant.

PM me if you need digits. Beyond posting roll first thing every day, your November Quit Brothers and the rest of the vets around here are going to be your biggest asset in this fight.

x2 ^^^^^. Pm me anytime you need someone to talk to.

[Flannywho]

Welcome. Great intro. Great attitude. Just curious. You mention you have tried this several times before and that you will remember how to post roll. Have you been on KTC in the past and tried to quit? I could be reading that wrong but was just curious
Flanny

[Tuco]

Welcome, pvc! Congratulations on making the best possible decision today. Based on your intro, I see two things that tell me you're a badass in the making:

1) You recognize that all forms of nicotine and nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, etc) are complete and utter crap. If you didn't dump that shit along with your tins, go ahead and do so now.

2) You're getting pissed. Good. You should be pissed. You should be pissed at the nic bitch and pissed at yourself. I like to think of it like this. Never forget that you are an addict and you will always be an addict. Use that anger as a reminder and to always stay vigilant.

PM me if you need digits. Beyond posting roll first thing every day, your November Quit Brothers and the rest of the vets around here are going to be your biggest asset in this fight.

[BG]

Welcome coach. Have you ever found your way to our halls of quitters before? If not, you've found the right place to help you in this struggle, but here's the deal: Jump into this place headfirst without the floaties or training wheels, and it'll save your life. Be here. Make it a part of your daily life. Get to know your brothers in November. Build relationships and accountability will ensue.

Two things:
1. Give your promise here via posting roll with your Nov. guys and anyone else for that matter.
2. Be a man of your word and keep that promise.

If you can do those two things, this place will save your ass.

Again, welcome. Let's do this.

[SoDakCattleGuy]

Welcome to the November quit group. I saw that you posted roll. Remember to do that everyday, it's the daily promise we make to not use nicotine in any form for the day. Take it one day at a time and you'll be good.

[pvcoach]

Day 1
I have a better attitude this time. No more patches, gum, crap. Today will be a great day cause it is day 1.

I have chewed since 1983. What is that like 31 years? I am 45. This is a majority of my life. I teach, coach track, and do a bunch of other stuff. Very involved in my community, I live in a tiny little town where if you want stuff done you gotta help pitch it to make it happen.

My primary motivation here is just better health. No scare. We've all seen the pictures. If that worked people would quit immediately. I am a nicotine addict. It's that simple. I need to remember to not break the law of addiction, that is all. Reading Allen Carr's book MANY times has helped change my mindset. It's not "easy" but he calls it the "Easyway"--what he is driving at is that we have been brainwashed into believing two things. That we get pleasure and enjoyment out of nicotine, and that it is the worst.thing.ever...to quit. Both are false. It only returns us to a close to normal state. For a while. Then we are back to craving and wanting.

Now I'm getting pissed. I've been buying a product for 31 years that has the potential to harm me, and it's sole purpose is to make me want more of that product. The only way around this is to stop using. Period.

I do notice several things about my general health while chewing. My mouth does hurt from time to time. I'm tired. All the f...n time. I am a runner and I want to get back to running complete marathons. I've done 6.

Another motivation for me is that I want to be around to a) see grandkids have their own children..30-40 years from now...and want to just enjoy life. So enough about me.

I did this before several times. Later today i will remember how to post roll...but consider me down for a DAY 1 today. NO MORE GRIZZLY!!

PV Coach

[Souliman]

We have much in common. Much. I have probably run 45 marathons. You and I are also addicts. Your intro has addict speak all over it. Please read my HOF speech. Please read a bunch of others. You are going to have a tough time but you can do it. Read, read, read. 1 day at a time.

45? forty-fucking-five? no wonder you run like the wind.

[Scowick65]

We have much in common. Much. I have probably run 45 marathons. You and I are also addicts. Your intro has addict speak all over it. Please read my HOF speech. Please read a bunch of others. You are going to have a tough time but you can do it. Read, read, read. 1 day at a time.

[shortround]

It was just a..
.. tiny chew. . . 'bang head'

Dammit man.

You said yourself you've tried a 1000 times before. Sounds like you have a little more then a tiny problem. Just like the rest of us.

It's time to stop trying, and start doing.

[magnum9]

A "tiny chew". Seriously....

How 'bout just a "Tiny cancer". Is that better than a big cancer?

Nicotine is nicotine. No small amount of it can make you a tiny bit of a quitter.

You need a HUGE dose of shut the fuck up and QUIT!

[Bean]

Misterbean - use your own name, not mine. Especially if you're going to post bullshit about caving after 2 days. Get serious or get lost.

[tarpon17]

:rustaf1:

[zam]

misterbean,

There is a hard bit of truth that I learned during my first week here. It was an obvious truth to many, but I hadn't learned it:

ADDICTS ARE LYING PIECES OF SHIT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR HABIT!!

You are no different. If you think you are, I suggest that you 1) lied about chewing for 30 years, or 2) your addict brain is feeding you lies and BS justifications (see above).

As CoachDoc says, there are no "technical" degrees of screw ups and you did NOT put that dip in and then think , "whoopsie! I forgot" You know what your were doing, and you won't be able to quit until you acknowledge that fact.

I'm WAY to new here to be preaching the KTC gospel, but I see classic addict-brain BS in your cave.

read about what it means to post roll, understand how F_ING SERIOUS we are about that promise, and jump in.

[dchogs]

I'm on day 2.  Technically, day 5 but I screwed up on day 3...was a woos, "oh i can't do this" etc.  Had a half a piece of nicotine gum and an hour later a tiny chew. 
You know what?  It felt like shit.  my head spun.  I was woozy.  It didn't taste right.
I felt gross.

One thing I will say about doing this the CT way is I feel physically cleaner.    It seems like I have more energy.
Also, I have not flipped out on anyone.  I have been surprisingly calm.  A little short, yes.  Ready to blow a fucking gasket...yep.  But I haven't.  My bullshit meter is set to "notreallyputtingupwithanytoday" if that makes sense. 


I can't promise to quit forever or even next year.  Today though I can do this.

Bean

Technically? Bullshit! Technically, you fuckin caved! Not only gum but a dip...

You know what? until you realize what you are saying perpetuates your failures, you are doomed to technically keep repeating Day 1.

You have a quit plan written out? You have numbers? Before you answer yes, you better be sure...I want to see the plan posted....because YOU are gonna need it...and for brothers (and sisters) out there reading this, post up and let us know if he's reached out to get numbers from you...

Technically, this baby bird needs some feeding...or he gonna fall right outta the nest...and the big ol nasty nic cat is gonna eat him...over and over again...

And you have the nerve to post this on the intro of a new quitter?

You are at about day 4, very close to my date. I'm technically at 2. I've been off since Saturday. I slipped on Tuesday a tiny amount. I feel I am about off nicotine physically. One more day. The craves are better already. The fog is a tad better. We can do this.

There is no TINY amount...You just stick your toe in the can? BULLSHIT! This is a prime example of an addict justifying his behavior...and for you to say you slipped in the same paragraph as telling the new quitter that YOU can do this with her? I'll give you the same advice I gave a day or two ago...right now, you need to do less supporting of the quit of others and more focusing on your own...

Yeah, I'm a prick...but I WILL hold you accountable!

beans,

here's the deal. we take quitting seriously here, and if you want to play on our playground, you'd better start playing by our rules. to be honest, i have no idea if you posted roll or not, but saying that it's "technically 5 days" even though you caved after 3 is disrespectful to all the quitters here that have the stones to man up and impose their will on their addiction.

you are on day 2, and unless something drastic changes in your attitude, you'll have many more day 2's down the road. you have to WANT this quit more than anything. you have to fight for your quit. you have to protect your quit.

honestly, if the IT dude at my work told me that i either had to give up my job or give up KTC, i'd start cleaning out my desk immediately. i work at a boarding school, so i'd also have to walk up the road and start boxing up all my shit right away. this site is non-negotiable. my quit is too important for work to get in my way.

come back when you've found the balls to do this. as of right now, you've been judged and found lacking. enjoy your slavery.