I'm Back. I'm Dumb.

[30yraddict]

This is awesome stuff.  I could read these old posts all day.  Reading about everyone's challenges and successes pushes me onward.  You guys are warriers. 

Unfortunately it seems like the struggle never ends.  Loot how could cave in after all that time.  I would sure like to see some posts about how simple it is once your finally "cured".  I guess that is the sad truth, there is no cured.

This addiction makes me so angry.  I hope and pray that my children never know the pains of addiction.

Ahem. LOOT didnt cave bro. The exchange was LOOT forcing a revelation on WP. He was a little reluctant, like we all are, to admit we are addicts. It took some prodding to get WP there...but look at him now. He is one of LOOTs heros. You won't find a better example.

@got2...

never cured. werd.

but... Freedom does come with time.. it is a conditional freedom, though... conditional that you never forget that you are an addict. That you never forget that "just one" is a lie. There is no "just one".

Posting roll: both a promise... and a reminder. Two for the price of one. A small price to pay for your freedom.

[loot]

This is awesome stuff. I could read these old posts all day. Reading about everyone's challenges and successes pushes me onward. You guys are warriers.

Unfortunately it seems like the struggle never ends. Loot how could cave in after all that time. I would sure like to see some posts about how simple it is once your finally "cured". I guess that is the sad truth, there is no cured.

This addiction makes me so angry. I hope and pray that my children never know the pains of addiction.

Ahem. LOOT didnt cave bro. The exchange was LOOT forcing a revelation on WP. He was a little reluctant, like we all are, to admit we are addicts. It took some prodding to get WP there...but look at him now. He is one of LOOTs heros. You won't find a better example.

[Its_Got2Happen]

This is awesome stuff. I could read these old posts all day. Reading about everyone's challenges and successes pushes me onward. You guys are warriers.

Unfortunately it seems like the struggle never ends. Loot how could cave in after all that time. I would sure like to see some posts about how simple it is once your finally "cured". I guess that is the sad truth, there is no cured.

This addiction makes me so angry. I hope and pray that my children never know the pains of addiction.

[eric71]

I was re-reading some old posts, and I stumbled across this one today.

October Spelunkers

Sounds good huh?

Spineless lot you are....

ShOct and Awe-ctober

Or we could stay simple and go with "Those fucking October bastards".

Speaking of longevity, wastepanel, what's your story? You really joined this place 5 years ago?

*LOOT pulls up a chair next to the fire and gets prepared to read this novel... Again*

'Popcorn'

How about some accountability this time wastedtime?

Good luck getting a decent Answer MWU.

I stopped chewing in September 2006 on the lite site (with guys such Franpro, chewie, and even loot). I was in the September 2006 group (The St. Nic O Frees) and hit my hof date in December 2006.

I'm not quite sure how I got signed up to this site, but I made 1 post prior to 8 days ago.

Fast forward some....

It was October 25, 2009 (I've been thinking a lot about my nic addiction lately, and I can pinpoint it to this date as my cave.). I went to a Browns game (against Green Bay) with my friend, got drunk, and thought "It's only one...".

I was no longer posting roll at that point. Hell, I convinced myself I could do it just once DESPITE MY HOF SPEECH SAYING OTHERWISE.

I had a chew. 1 chew.

It was out of my mouth within 45 minutes (It was gross, I reverted back to the spit everything I've ever had in my mouth out, got the hiccups, etc.)

"That wasn't so bad" I thought.

So, a few weeks later I had another. And another. And another....

By February 2010, I was back into a full blown habit (addiction). I was going through 3 cans a weeks of Skoal, and my wife realized I was chewing again.

I will repeat this: I never came to this board nor the other board during this time period. I never posted roll and went back on it.

I returned to this board last week by googling "quit chewing website" (which is how I found the lite board in 2006). I held my crutches strong, but ended up tossing my shit, and I've now been quit for 8 days.

Roll is important. Roll keeps you honest. Roll makes you realize you are an addict, and won't let your addict brain fool you into thinking otherwise.

I posted roll through 100 days religiously in 2006. I got lazy after I accomplished my goal.

I never truly embraced being involved with other people from the website. I posted my roll, and I ranted every now and then. But I didn't PM people, or text them, or call them. I did it alone.

Because I did it alone, I failed.

I'm changing that this time.

I've learned from my mistakes, but I have never posted roll and gone back on it. I became complacent and I fooled myself. That will not happen again.

Being a retread is not about coming back and giving the perfect answers to the 3 questions. This was my answer.

It was not perfect, but it was a perfect acknowledgement of the three characteristics that all quitters need to carry:

(1) Acknowledgement of past mistakes-The past is the past. We cannot change it.
(2) Acknowledgement that we are and always will be addicts.
(3) A battle cry of our quit and what will be different from all those previous "attempts".

Now, I have seen some guys come back and they are able to say the right thing when they need to. They just forget that they HAVE TO LIVE IT.

I made this post on day 8 of my quit. I've never missed roll. I've surrounded myself with protection. I've stayed involved in this site.

Although the 3 questions are intended for those that we deem "failures", try answering them sometime about your quit. I was successful yesterday because I posted roll and kept my word. I've stayed involved and owned my quit. I am not doing differently today because I want to be quit more than anything else.

I know that you can do this because I am.

I quit with all of you today.

1) Agreed. We all made mistakes, or we wouldn't be here.
2) I am an addict. Just like I was 847 days ago.
3) Never again!! I made a promise this morning, and I'll see my crew again tomorrow.

I quit with you today.

Right by your side, every day brother

[Radman]

I was re-reading some old posts, and I stumbled across this one today.

October Spelunkers

Sounds good huh?

Spineless lot you are....

ShOct and Awe-ctober

Or we could stay simple and go with "Those fucking October bastards".

Speaking of longevity, wastepanel, what's your story? You really joined this place 5 years ago?

*LOOT pulls up a chair next to the fire and gets prepared to read this novel... Again*

'Popcorn'

How about some accountability this time wastedtime?

Good luck getting a decent Answer MWU.

I stopped chewing in September 2006 on the lite site (with guys such Franpro, chewie, and even loot). I was in the September 2006 group (The St. Nic O Frees) and hit my hof date in December 2006.

I'm not quite sure how I got signed up to this site, but I made 1 post prior to 8 days ago.

Fast forward some....

It was October 25, 2009 (I've been thinking a lot about my nic addiction lately, and I can pinpoint it to this date as my cave.). I went to a Browns game (against Green Bay) with my friend, got drunk, and thought "It's only one...".

I was no longer posting roll at that point. Hell, I convinced myself I could do it just once DESPITE MY HOF SPEECH SAYING OTHERWISE.

I had a chew. 1 chew.

It was out of my mouth within 45 minutes (It was gross, I reverted back to the spit everything I've ever had in my mouth out, got the hiccups, etc.)

"That wasn't so bad" I thought.

So, a few weeks later I had another. And another. And another....

By February 2010, I was back into a full blown habit (addiction). I was going through 3 cans a weeks of Skoal, and my wife realized I was chewing again.

I will repeat this: I never came to this board nor the other board during this time period. I never posted roll and went back on it.

I returned to this board last week by googling "quit chewing website" (which is how I found the lite board in 2006). I held my crutches strong, but ended up tossing my shit, and I've now been quit for 8 days.

Roll is important. Roll keeps you honest. Roll makes you realize you are an addict, and won't let your addict brain fool you into thinking otherwise.

I posted roll through 100 days religiously in 2006. I got lazy after I accomplished my goal.

I never truly embraced being involved with other people from the website. I posted my roll, and I ranted every now and then. But I didn't PM people, or text them, or call them. I did it alone.

Because I did it alone, I failed.

I'm changing that this time.

I've learned from my mistakes, but I have never posted roll and gone back on it. I became complacent and I fooled myself. That will not happen again.

Being a retread is not about coming back and giving the perfect answers to the 3 questions. This was my answer.

It was not perfect, but it was a perfect acknowledgement of the three characteristics that all quitters need to carry:

(1) Acknowledgement of past mistakes-The past is the past. We cannot change it.
(2) Acknowledgement that we are and always will be addicts.
(3) A battle cry of our quit and what will be different from all those previous "attempts".

Now, I have seen some guys come back and they are able to say the right thing when they need to. They just forget that they HAVE TO LIVE IT.

I made this post on day 8 of my quit. I've never missed roll. I've surrounded myself with protection. I've stayed involved in this site.

Although the 3 questions are intended for those that we deem "failures", try answering them sometime about your quit. I was successful yesterday because I posted roll and kept my word. I've stayed involved and owned my quit. I am not doing differently today because I want to be quit more than anything else.

I know that you can do this because I am.

I quit with all of you today.

1) Agreed. We all made mistakes, or we wouldn't be here.
2) I am an addict. Just like I was 847 days ago.
3) Never again!! I made a promise this morning, and I'll see my crew again tomorrow.

I quit with you today.

[wastepanel]

I was re-reading some old posts, and I stumbled across this one today.

October Spelunkers

Sounds good huh?

Spineless lot you are....

ShOct and Awe-ctober

Or we could stay simple and go with "Those fucking October bastards".

Speaking of longevity, wastepanel, what's your story? You really joined this place 5 years ago?

*LOOT pulls up a chair next to the fire and gets prepared to read this novel... Again*

'Popcorn'

How about some accountability this time wastedtime?

Good luck getting a decent Answer MWU.

I stopped chewing in September 2006 on the lite site (with guys such Franpro, chewie, and even loot). I was in the September 2006 group (The St. Nic O Frees) and hit my hof date in December 2006.

I'm not quite sure how I got signed up to this site, but I made 1 post prior to 8 days ago.

Fast forward some....

It was October 25, 2009 (I've been thinking a lot about my nic addiction lately, and I can pinpoint it to this date as my cave.). I went to a Browns game (against Green Bay) with my friend, got drunk, and thought "It's only one...".

I was no longer posting roll at that point. Hell, I convinced myself I could do it just once DESPITE MY HOF SPEECH SAYING OTHERWISE.

I had a chew. 1 chew.

It was out of my mouth within 45 minutes (It was gross, I reverted back to the spit everything I've ever had in my mouth out, got the hiccups, etc.)

"That wasn't so bad" I thought.

So, a few weeks later I had another. And another. And another....

By February 2010, I was back into a full blown habit (addiction). I was going through 3 cans a weeks of Skoal, and my wife realized I was chewing again.

I will repeat this: I never came to this board nor the other board during this time period. I never posted roll and went back on it.

I returned to this board last week by googling "quit chewing website" (which is how I found the lite board in 2006). I held my crutches strong, but ended up tossing my shit, and I've now been quit for 8 days.

Roll is important. Roll keeps you honest. Roll makes you realize you are an addict, and won't let your addict brain fool you into thinking otherwise.

I posted roll through 100 days religiously in 2006. I got lazy after I accomplished my goal.

I never truly embraced being involved with other people from the website. I posted my roll, and I ranted every now and then. But I didn't PM people, or text them, or call them. I did it alone.

Because I did it alone, I failed.

I'm changing that this time.

I've learned from my mistakes, but I have never posted roll and gone back on it. I became complacent and I fooled myself. That will not happen again.

Being a retread is not about coming back and giving the perfect answers to the 3 questions. This was my answer.

It was not perfect, but it was a perfect acknowledgement of the three characteristics that all quitters need to carry:

(1) Acknowledgement of past mistakes-The past is the past. We cannot change it.
(2) Acknowledgement that we are and always will be addicts.
(3) A battle cry of our quit and what will be different from all those previous "attempts".

Now, I have seen some guys come back and they are able to say the right thing when they need to. They just forget that they HAVE TO LIVE IT.

I made this post on day 8 of my quit. I've never missed roll. I've surrounded myself with protection. I've stayed involved in this site.

Although the 3 questions are intended for those that we deem "failures", try answering them sometime about your quit. I was successful yesterday because I posted roll and kept my word. I've stayed involved and owned my quit. I am not doing differently today because I want to be quit more than anything else.

I know that you can do this because I am.

I quit with all of you today.

[wastepanel]

I was quit for all of 2012.

It all started with a decision I made in 2011. However, I had no clear path how to achieve my goal.

I was given a path here at the ktc and I followed it. I was given the tools to achieve that goal here at the ktc and I used them. I achieved my goal...for now.

I know that I need to keep on this path and keep my tools at my side. I know that there will be times that it's just not that easy to continue on. I know there are times when it is the easiest thing in the world to do. I know that it is my decisions alone and my actions alone that dictate whether I am successful.

I know that I am not quit forever. I am quit now, and I have been for 554 days. I plan on quitting forever, but I am not declaring a victory.

I know that you can do this because I did. Thousands of others have as well. You are not special in your addiction. You do not need nicotine. You just think you do. You are scared because you don't remember who you are without the drug.

You can do this.

We are doing this.

[tarpon17]

Home of the 12th Man

I fucking love football.

And, today, despite stadiums trying to maximize profits by building malls in their stadiums and making it damn near impossible to sit close to the field, a home crowd is a clear advantage.

Ask the Seattle Seahawks.

That team is .500 team on the road.  They are inconsistent, and don't seem to be able to finish games when on the road.  Hell, their biggest road game I can remember them winning in the last few years is tainted by replacement refs.

But don't fucking mess with them at home.

That team is lights out, no holds barred, fuck you up and you mother too good.  They are damn near impossible to beat.

Their crowd drives them on.  It is rumored that the stadium is built with special materials that reverberate sound back to the field driving away teams crazy.  The crowd knows this, and they are fucking insane in their enthusiasm the entire time.

We at the KTC know what this feels like.

There are days when I just don't feel like strong.  There are days when I'm tired, bruised, and sore.  There are days when my opponent should have me outmatched mentally and physically.

But then the crowd roars.

I've got the fucking advantage now.

I've got talent without you guys, but your support helps me play to my fullest potential.  I'm bigger, stronger, and faster with you at my side.  Despite the fact you aren't on the field with me, I can't win without you.

Thank you.

Just a comment...

I know the Seattle Seahawks copied my Texas AM Aggies with the whole 12th man thing. Started at Texas AM in 1922. Nonetheless, the link you posted was of Kyle Field where the Aggies play...not Seattle. Nonetheless, I always enjoy seeing someone post something about my Aggies....even if indirectly.

An aside from the point of your post I know so didn't mean to distract from that. Just wanted to point out the pic was from Aggieland.

GIG EM!!!

And this years winner of the Heisman, GIG EM!

[kstampfly]

This was our lesson last night at my son's basketball practice:

Visual/Object Lesson:
Have you ever done something while you were mad that you later regretted? Like maybe you screamed at your sister or threw something across the room in a fit of anger. And once you did it, did you almost immediately want to take it back? The second the words flew out your mouth or the toy flew out of your hand, did you wish for a do-over? Those kinds of reactions happen all the time when we forget about self-control.

God doesnÂ’t want us to live without self-control because he knows that if we did, weÂ’d end up hurting others and hurting ourselves. Instead, he wants us to be protected. In the book of Proverbs, a man named Solomon had something to say about self-control. Solomon was the wisest man who ever lived. And lucky for us, he recorded some amazingly wise things in this little book almost in the center of your Bible.

Here’s what Solomon had to say in Proverbs 25:28 (NIV) – he said, “Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.” Back when Solomon lived, cities were always under attack. Armies of men from neighboring towns would attack a city and attempt to take it over. As a way to protect themselves, cities were almost always surrounded by high walls.

These walls served two purposes – to keep the bad guys out and to keep the good guys safe and sound.  So in this verse, Solomon is telling us that a man who doesn’t have self-control—who does whatever and says whatever without thinking about the consequences—is like a city with no walls. He is unprotected. But guess what? When you DO have self-control you and all your relationships are protected. You won’t hurt yourself or someone else in a way you will regret later.

Application:
Now you might be saying, thatÂ’s great and all but how am I supposed to control myself all the time? What if someone really makes me mad, should I just let him get away with it? The truth is, we automatically want to take matters into our own hands. But God wants us to know that HE can give us the power to have self-control. It isnÂ’t easy but we donÂ’t have to do it alone.

Because of His love for us, God has made a way for us to have a relationship with him. And once you have that relationship, he is always with you – to guide you and help you make better choices.  And when you choose to show self-control, you will be protected because you chose to trust and follow God. Just like a city with high walls surrounding it, your choice to show self-controlwill protect you and your relationships with the people around you.

We can do this friends.

We're battling the same foe here...not each other.

This site is a tool to help us protect our quits. With high walls (our rules, our support system) we are as protected as we want to be. It is our jobs to make sure we stay protected, and it is so easy to just tear down a wall because it throws off the fung shui of our quits.

We are all given the gift of free will and self control. We choose not to use today. It may not seem like a difficult task some days. It may seem like we can carry this burden on our own. It may seem like we might be able to let down our guard, tear down the walls, and live a nice free life without worries of invading armies.

But, I guarantee, there is an enemy up in the mountains watching. And waiting.

We are extreme in our quitting methods and our hard truths. But hard truths are not meant to tear down the walls of others. They are meant to constructive. I'm tired of watching friends be mean just to be mean. I don't let my kids get away with it, and I won't let anybody here as well.

We're fucking here to help.

Great post and Awesome message!

I agree with you brother, we are all here to battle the very same thing that made us all addicts. Our quest to quit tobacco brought us to this site and each of us are here to keep each other quit. We are not the enemy, but tobacco is. We must keep up the fight as one team for we are only as strong as our weakest link.

[Grizzly25]

This was our lesson last night at my son's basketball practice:

Visual/Object Lesson:
Have you ever done something while you were mad that you later regretted? Like maybe you screamed at your sister or threw something across the room in a fit of anger. And once you did it, did you almost immediately want to take it back? The second the words flew out your mouth or the toy flew out of your hand, did you wish for a do-over? Those kinds of reactions happen all the time when we forget about self-control.

God doesnÂ’t want us to live without self-control because he knows that if we did, weÂ’d end up hurting others and hurting ourselves. Instead, he wants us to be protected. In the book of Proverbs, a man named Solomon had something to say about self-control. Solomon was the wisest man who ever lived. And lucky for us, he recorded some amazingly wise things in this little book almost in the center of your Bible.

Here’s what Solomon had to say in Proverbs 25:28 (NIV) – he said, “Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.” Back when Solomon lived, cities were always under attack. Armies of men from neighboring towns would attack a city and attempt to take it over. As a way to protect themselves, cities were almost always surrounded by high walls.

These walls served two purposes – to keep the bad guys out and to keep the good guys safe and sound.  So in this verse, Solomon is telling us that a man who doesn’t have self-control—who does whatever and says whatever without thinking about the consequences—is like a city with no walls. He is unprotected. But guess what? When you DO have self-control you and all your relationships are protected. You won’t hurt yourself or someone else in a way you will regret later.

Application:
Now you might be saying, thatÂ’s great and all but how am I supposed to control myself all the time? What if someone really makes me mad, should I just let him get away with it? The truth is, we automatically want to take matters into our own hands. But God wants us to know that HE can give us the power to have self-control. It isnÂ’t easy but we donÂ’t have to do it alone.

Because of His love for us, God has made a way for us to have a relationship with him. And once you have that relationship, he is always with you – to guide you and help you make better choices.  And when you choose to show self-control, you will be protected because you chose to trust and follow God. Just like a city with high walls surrounding it, your choice to show self-controlwill protect you and your relationships with the people around you.

We can do this friends.

We're battling the same foe here...not each other.

This site is a tool to help us protect our quits. With high walls (our rules, our support system) we are as protected as we want to be. It is our jobs to make sure we stay protected, and it is so easy to just tear down a wall because it throws off the fung shui of our quits.

We are all given the gift of free will and self control. We choose not to use today. It may not seem like a difficult task some days. It may seem like we can carry this burden on our own. It may seem like we might be able to let down our guard, tear down the walls, and live a nice free life without worries of invading armies.

But, I guarantee, there is an enemy up in the mountains watching. And waiting.

We are extreme in our quitting methods and our hard truths. But hard truths are not meant to tear down the walls of others. They are meant to constructive. I'm tired of watching friends be mean just to be mean. I don't let my kids get away with it, and I won't let anybody here as well.

We're fucking here to help.

Great post and Awesome message!

[wastepanel]

This was our lesson last night at my son's basketball practice:

Visual/Object Lesson:
Have you ever done something while you were mad that you later regretted? Like maybe you screamed at your sister or threw something across the room in a fit of anger. And once you did it, did you almost immediately want to take it back? The second the words flew out your mouth or the toy flew out of your hand, did you wish for a do-over? Those kinds of reactions happen all the time when we forget about self-control.

God doesnÂ’t want us to live without self-control because he knows that if we did, weÂ’d end up hurting others and hurting ourselves. Instead, he wants us to be protected. In the book of Proverbs, a man named Solomon had something to say about self-control. Solomon was the wisest man who ever lived. And lucky for us, he recorded some amazingly wise things in this little book almost in the center of your Bible.

Here’s what Solomon had to say in Proverbs 25:28 (NIV) – he said, “Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.” Back when Solomon lived, cities were always under attack. Armies of men from neighboring towns would attack a city and attempt to take it over. As a way to protect themselves, cities were almost always surrounded by high walls.

These walls served two purposes – to keep the bad guys out and to keep the good guys safe and sound.  So in this verse, Solomon is telling us that a man who doesn’t have self-control—who does whatever and says whatever without thinking about the consequences—is like a city with no walls. He is unprotected. But guess what? When you DO have self-control you and all your relationships are protected. You won’t hurt yourself or someone else in a way you will regret later.

Application:
Now you might be saying, thatÂ’s great and all but how am I supposed to control myself all the time? What if someone really makes me mad, should I just let him get away with it? The truth is, we automatically want to take matters into our own hands. But God wants us to know that HE can give us the power to have self-control. It isnÂ’t easy but we donÂ’t have to do it alone.

Because of His love for us, God has made a way for us to have a relationship with him. And once you have that relationship, he is always with you – to guide you and help you make better choices.  And when you choose to show self-control, you will be protected because you chose to trust and follow God. Just like a city with high walls surrounding it, your choice to show self-controlwill protect you and your relationships with the people around you.

We can do this friends.

We're battling the same foe here...not each other.

This site is a tool to help us protect our quits. With high walls (our rules, our support system) we are as protected as we want to be. It is our jobs to make sure we stay protected, and it is so easy to just tear down a wall because it throws off the fung shui of our quits.

We are all given the gift of free will and self control. We choose not to use today. It may not seem like a difficult task some days. It may seem like we can carry this burden on our own. It may seem like we might be able to let down our guard, tear down the walls, and live a nice free life without worries of invading armies.

But, I guarantee, there is an enemy up in the mountains watching. And waiting.

We are extreme in our quitting methods and our hard truths. But hard truths are not meant to tear down the walls of others. They are meant to constructive. I'm tired of watching friends be mean just to be mean. I don't let my kids get away with it, and I won't let anybody here as well.

We're fucking here to help.

[RAZD611]

Home of the 12th Man

I fucking love football.

And, today, despite stadiums trying to maximize profits by building malls in their stadiums and making it damn near impossible to sit close to the field, a home crowd is a clear advantage.

Ask the Seattle Seahawks.

That team is .500 team on the road.  They are inconsistent, and don't seem to be able to finish games when on the road.  Hell, their biggest road game I can remember them winning in the last few years is tainted by replacement refs.

But don't fucking mess with them at home.

That team is lights out, no holds barred, fuck you up and you mother too good.  They are damn near impossible to beat.

Their crowd drives them on.  It is rumored that the stadium is built with special materials that reverberate sound back to the field driving away teams crazy.  The crowd knows this, and they are fucking insane in their enthusiasm the entire time.

We at the KTC know what this feels like.

There are days when I just don't feel like strong.  There are days when I'm tired, bruised, and sore.  There are days when my opponent should have me outmatched mentally and physically.

But then the crowd roars.

I've got the fucking advantage now.

I've got talent without you guys, but your support helps me play to my fullest potential.  I'm bigger, stronger, and faster with you at my side.  Despite the fact you aren't on the field with me, I can't win without you.

Thank you.

Just a comment...

I know the Seattle Seahawks copied my Texas AM Aggies with the whole 12th man thing. Started at Texas AM in 1922. Nonetheless, the link you posted was of Kyle Field where the Aggies play...not Seattle. Nonetheless, I always enjoy seeing someone post something about my Aggies....even if indirectly.

An aside from the point of your post I know so didn't mean to distract from that. Just wanted to point out the pic was from Aggieland.

GIG EM!!!

[AgLawyer]

Home of the 12th Man

I fucking love football.

And, today, despite stadiums trying to maximize profits by building malls in their stadiums and making it damn near impossible to sit close to the field, a home crowd is a clear advantage.

Ask the Seattle Seahawks.

That team is .500 team on the road.  They are inconsistent, and don't seem to be able to finish games when on the road.  Hell, their biggest road game I can remember them winning in the last few years is tainted by replacement refs.

But don't fucking mess with them at home.

That team is lights out, no holds barred, fuck you up and you mother too good.  They are damn near impossible to beat.

Their crowd drives them on.  It is rumored that the stadium is built with special materials that reverberate sound back to the field driving away teams crazy.  The crowd knows this, and they are fucking insane in their enthusiasm the entire time.

We at the KTC know what this feels like.

There are days when I just don't feel like strong.  There are days when I'm tired, bruised, and sore.  There are days when my opponent should have me outmatched mentally and physically.

But then the crowd roars.

I've got the fucking advantage now.

I've got talent without you guys, but your support helps me play to my fullest potential.  I'm bigger, stronger, and faster with you at my side.  Despite the fact you aren't on the field with me, I can't win without you.

Thank you.

Just a comment...

I know the Seattle Seahawks copied my Texas AM Aggies with the whole 12th man thing. Started at Texas AM in 1922. Nonetheless, the link you posted was of Kyle Field where the Aggies play...not Seattle. Nonetheless, I always enjoy seeing someone post something about my Aggies....even if indirectly.

An aside from the point of your post I know so didn't mean to distract from that. Just wanted to point out the pic was from Aggieland.

[wastepanel]

Home of the 12th Man

I fucking love football.

And, today, despite stadiums trying to maximize profits by building malls in their stadiums and making it damn near impossible to sit close to the field, a home crowd is a clear advantage.

Ask the Seattle Seahawks.

That team is .500 team on the road. They are inconsistent, and don't seem to be able to finish games when on the road. Hell, their biggest road game I can remember them winning in the last few years is tainted by replacement refs.

But don't fucking mess with them at home.

That team is lights out, no holds barred, fuck you up and you mother too good. They are damn near impossible to beat.

Their crowd drives them on. It is rumored that the stadium is built with special materials that reverberate sound back to the field driving away teams crazy. The crowd knows this, and they are fucking insane in their enthusiasm the entire time.

We at the KTC know what this feels like.

There are days when I just don't feel like strong. There are days when I'm tired, bruised, and sore. There are days when my opponent should have me outmatched mentally and physically.

But then the crowd roars.

I've got the fucking advantage now.

I've got talent without you guys, but your support helps me play to my fullest potential. I'm bigger, stronger, and faster with you at my side. Despite the fact you aren't on the field with me, I can't win without you.

Thank you.

And go Browns.

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Home of the 12th Man

I fucking love football.

And, today, despite stadiums trying to maximize profits by building malls in their stadiums and making it damn near impossible to sit close to the field, a home crowd is a clear advantage.

Ask the Seattle Seahawks.

That team is .500 team on the road. They are inconsistent, and don't seem to be able to finish games when on the road. Hell, their biggest road game I can remember them winning in the last few years is tainted by replacement refs.

But don't fucking mess with them at home.

That team is lights out, no holds barred, fuck you up and you mother too good. They are damn near impossible to beat.

Their crowd drives them on. It is rumored that the stadium is built with special materials that reverberate sound back to the field driving away teams crazy. The crowd knows this, and they are fucking insane in their enthusiasm the entire time.

We at the KTC know what this feels like.

There are days when I just don't feel like strong. There are days when I'm tired, bruised, and sore. There are days when my opponent should have me outmatched mentally and physically.

But then the crowd roars.

I've got the fucking advantage now.

I've got talent without you guys, but your support helps me play to my fullest potential. I'm bigger, stronger, and faster with you at my side. Despite the fact you aren't on the field with me, I can't win without you.

Thank you.