Hello

[ParadigmDawg]

Once again, thanks for everything.

Last night was fine and fun, we headed downtown for Sushi and a couple of Martinis and then met some family members in a different town for live music and a couple of beers. The only parking spot at the second joint was directly in front of a Tobacco Shop, I just laughed and said "this must be a tester".

A couple of mild craves at the second bar but nothing too bad. A little hung over feeling today which I find strange as I can normally drink and I had a total of 4 last night.

Funny Work mentioned food tasting better, 8 years ago, when I quit, I remember that too but this time nothing has a taste. I am putting Jalapenos on everything just to taste something. Maybe it's just "off" since it is still early.

Greg

BTW...The Jayhawks do suck....

[Wedge]

Me thinks paradigm is going to be a great addition to this site and go on to do good things here.

[worktowin]

Thanks for all the kind words guys, it means a lot.

Yesterday I was a lot more edgy and anxious than normal, my temper was flying off the handle, at the drop of a hat.

I feel like even simple tasks are overwhelming.  Just doing my sales reports and expense report yesterday had me very stressed out and I normally don't even notice I am doing them.

I also feel a little depressed like nothing really excites me right now. I don't care much about my job or anything right now. My wife said I am not talking to her but I just kind of feel like being left alone.

Today is much better, craves haven't been bad at all and my outlook is brighter. I did spend a couple of hours, out in the woods, on my bike which seems to be the only thing that helps me.

The symptoms I have are also signs of over-training so I'm not sure if it's that or the quit but I only feel good while I am riding so I am going to keep doing that.

Anyway, I am taking the wife out for Sushi tonight and we have giving our self's a two drink max so that shouldn't play into feeding the Nic Bitch but can a couple of you PM me your number just to be safe?

I'm also freaked out about Dipping Dave's cave.


Greg

Hey Bro, I know what you are dealing with. I had trouble even reading an expense report... I would just stare at it, not really knowing what the hell I was looking at!

Keep up the good quit my man. Face that bitch down and just resolve to beat the crave.

I don't know if your wife knows, or understands but you bring your venting bullshit here and lay it out on us. We can deal with it. Hey, if you want to be a pouting little bitch about it, we can understand!

Your wife may not know, she may not understand. But, this isn't something she brought about. She didn't start dipping for you. This is your fight. Lucky for you (and your wife) you have us to help you fight it.

Come in here and vent. Tell me that Jayhawks suck, or that Alabama is a bunch of cheating bitches. We get it and we can deal with it. Don't freak on your mate. I suspect she doesn't know. I will bet my ass if she did know, she would walk the ends of the Earth to support you.

Keep on going brother. We are right here with you.

^^^^listen to this guy. 80 days ago he probably couldn't find the shoes on his feet. 222 days ago I was like a walking zombie. Document all of this shit here in your intro. Post roll every morning first thing, and then be a man if your word. Don't build a quit on others - you are a man of integrity and you'll get a ton of support on here. The documentation will help you look back in the near future and allow you to see clearly what nicotine took from you, and what you allowed it to take.

Jayhawk and I are furious about what nicotine did to us. My first post on this site said something about my good friend the Kodiak bear. Well, now I see that the bear was the kind of friend that puts a few drops of antifreeze in your food every day and takes $20 bills out of your wallet, all while stealing time from your family. What a goddamn joke.

You are a man of your word. You can do this. The men and women on this site will moved mountains to help you. Reach out to us if we can help. Gather numbers. Build contacts. Take back your life. Food tastes so much better without prestone...

[Jayhawk]

Thanks for all the kind words guys, it means a lot.

Yesterday I was a lot more edgy and anxious than normal, my temper was flying off the handle, at the drop of a hat.

I feel like even simple tasks are overwhelming. Just doing my sales reports and expense report yesterday had me very stressed out and I normally don't even notice I am doing them.

I also feel a little depressed like nothing really excites me right now. I don't care much about my job or anything right now. My wife said I am not talking to her but I just kind of feel like being left alone.

Today is much better, craves haven't been bad at all and my outlook is brighter. I did spend a couple of hours, out in the woods, on my bike which seems to be the only thing that helps me.

The symptoms I have are also signs of over-training so I'm not sure if it's that or the quit but I only feel good while I am riding so I am going to keep doing that.

Anyway, I am taking the wife out for Sushi tonight and we have giving our self's a two drink max so that shouldn't play into feeding the Nic Bitch but can a couple of you PM me your number just to be safe?

I'm also freaked out about Dipping Dave's cave.


Greg

Hey Bro, I know what you are dealing with. I had trouble even reading an expense report... I would just stare at it, not really knowing what the hell I was looking at!

Keep up the good quit my man. Face that bitch down and just resolve to beat the crave.

I don't know if your wife knows, or understands but you bring your venting bullshit here and lay it out on us. We can deal with it. Hey, if you want to be a pouting little bitch about it, we can understand!

Your wife may not know, she may not understand. But, this isn't something she brought about. She didn't start dipping for you. This is your fight. Lucky for you (and your wife) you have us to help you fight it.

Come in here and vent. Tell me that Jayhawks suck, or that Alabama is a bunch of cheating bitches. We get it and we can deal with it. Don't freak on your mate. I suspect she doesn't know. I will bet my ass if she did know, she would walk the ends of the Earth to support you.

Keep on going brother. We are right here with you.

[ParadigmDawg]

Thanks for all the kind words guys, it means a lot.

Yesterday I was a lot more edgy and anxious than normal, my temper was flying off the handle, at the drop of a hat.

I feel like even simple tasks are overwhelming. Just doing my sales reports and expense report yesterday had me very stressed out and I normally don't even notice I am doing them.

I also feel a little depressed like nothing really excites me right now. I don't care much about my job or anything right now. My wife said I am not talking to her but I just kind of feel like being left alone.

Today is much better, craves haven't been bad at all and my outlook is brighter. I did spend a couple of hours, out in the woods, on my bike which seems to be the only thing that helps me.

The symptoms I have are also signs of over-training so I'm not sure if it's that or the quit but I only feel good while I am riding so I am going to keep doing that.

Anyway, I am taking the wife out for Sushi tonight and we have giving our self's a two drink max so that shouldn't play into feeding the Nic Bitch but can a couple of you PM me your number just to be safe?

I'm also freaked out about Dipping Dave's cave.


Greg

[Jayhawk]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro.  Just thought I would post it here to.  You guys are doing it man.  Keep it up.  Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

I also put a response for both of you and slid it over.

Good advice from jayhawk. Paradgmdawg, Don't worry about your fake intake. Its crazy what an addict will worry about while in the first stages of quit. Just worry about keeping the poison out. I took fake until I got in the 40's, trashed it and never looked back. The fake is the least of your concerns right now. Staying quit one day at a time is high priority.

Jayhawk is right,, ya'll are in the thick of it. Where you guys are will last a minute or two. Believe it or not, your brains are rejoicing. Finally the healing that it's wanted to do for years.

You are making your way to a door that is hard to get to and hard to open. You will like what's on the other side. Keep pushing through. Glad to be quit with both you guys.

Hot damn, I bet naked big boob girls are on the other side of the door!!!!!!lol....

In all seriousness, I greatly appreciate all the support.

I'm still saying that something good is going on with my heart rate. My average HR per ride is down by almost 3% and it recovers quicker between hard efforts.

Bro... You're knocking on the door of TRUE health! You may have been in shape before but think of the poison your body was polluted with. Now? Damn! All that shit is gone and your body is tasting and using oxygen like never before and... It thanks you. It's pretty freaking amazing! I went to the doc the other day because I cracked a rib at work. I don't like doctors/hospitals... They geek me out. Needless to say I'm always a little jacked up from anxiety when I go even if its routine. Especially when I dipped. Heart rate would be in the upper 80s give or take. Last week... injured rib, anxiety and all - my heart rate was 62. The benefits of my quit continue to flow. Quit on brother... Enjoy it!

Awesome PDawg... this is what I was interested in seeing is if your body would perform even better without the poison...I find it so interesting that athletes or people working out dip...its almost an oxymoron. I will be staying tuned to see where you can push this quit too along with your body. Keep on kickin ass PDawg

Way to be brother. I'm no doc, but I would think that your cardiovascular system works better in the natural habitat, not polluted with nicotine/chemicals.

Anyway - keep it going bro. You are doing great. Get that shit on the bike when you feel a crave and work it out. If you can't bike, just stand up to the crave and face it down.

I'm right here with you bro.

-Jayhawk

[traumagnet]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro.  Just thought I would post it here to.  You guys are doing it man.  Keep it up.  Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

I also put a response for both of you and slid it over.

Good advice from jayhawk. Paradgmdawg, Don't worry about your fake intake. Its crazy what an addict will worry about while in the first stages of quit. Just worry about keeping the poison out. I took fake until I got in the 40's, trashed it and never looked back. The fake is the least of your concerns right now. Staying quit one day at a time is high priority.

Jayhawk is right,, ya'll are in the thick of it. Where you guys are will last a minute or two. Believe it or not, your brains are rejoicing. Finally the healing that it's wanted to do for years.

You are making your way to a door that is hard to get to and hard to open. You will like what's on the other side. Keep pushing through. Glad to be quit with both you guys.

Hot damn, I bet naked big boob girls are on the other side of the door!!!!!!lol....

In all seriousness, I greatly appreciate all the support.

I'm still saying that something good is going on with my heart rate. My average HR per ride is down by almost 3% and it recovers quicker between hard efforts.

Bro... You're knocking on the door of TRUE health! You may have been in shape before but think of the poison your body was polluted with. Now? Damn! All that shit is gone and your body is tasting and using oxygen like never before and... It thanks you. It's pretty freaking amazing! I went to the doc the other day because I cracked a rib at work. I don't like doctors/hospitals... They geek me out. Needless to say I'm always a little jacked up from anxiety when I go even if its routine. Especially when I dipped. Heart rate would be in the upper 80s give or take. Last week... injured rib, anxiety and all - my heart rate was 62. The benefits of my quit continue to flow. Quit on brother... Enjoy it!

Awesome PDawg... this is what I was interested in seeing is if your body would perform even better without the poison...I find it so interesting that athletes or people working out dip...its almost an oxymoron. I will be staying tuned to see where you can push this quit too along with your body. Keep on kickin ass PDawg

[AppleJack]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro.  Just thought I would post it here to.  You guys are doing it man.  Keep it up.  Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

I also put a response for both of you and slid it over.

Good advice from jayhawk. Paradgmdawg, Don't worry about your fake intake. Its crazy what an addict will worry about while in the first stages of quit. Just worry about keeping the poison out. I took fake until I got in the 40's, trashed it and never looked back. The fake is the least of your concerns right now. Staying quit one day at a time is high priority.

Jayhawk is right,, ya'll are in the thick of it. Where you guys are will last a minute or two. Believe it or not, your brains are rejoicing. Finally the healing that it's wanted to do for years.

You are making your way to a door that is hard to get to and hard to open. You will like what's on the other side. Keep pushing through. Glad to be quit with both you guys.

Hot damn, I bet naked big boob girls are on the other side of the door!!!!!!lol....

In all seriousness, I greatly appreciate all the support.

I'm still saying that something good is going on with my heart rate. My average HR per ride is down by almost 3% and it recovers quicker between hard efforts.

Bro... You're knocking on the door of TRUE health! You may have been in shape before but think of the poison your body was polluted with. Now? Damn! All that shit is gone and your body is tasting and using oxygen like never before and... It thanks you. It's pretty freaking amazing! I went to the doc the other day because I cracked a rib at work. I don't like doctors/hospitals... They geek me out. Needless to say I'm always a little jacked up from anxiety when I go even if its routine. Especially when I dipped. Heart rate would be in the upper 80s give or take. Last week... injured rib, anxiety and all - my heart rate was 62. The benefits of my quit continue to flow. Quit on brother... Enjoy it!

[ParadigmDawg]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro.  Just thought I would post it here to.  You guys are doing it man.  Keep it up.  Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

I also put a response for both of you and slid it over.

Good advice from jayhawk. Paradgmdawg, Don't worry about your fake intake. Its crazy what an addict will worry about while in the first stages of quit. Just worry about keeping the poison out. I took fake until I got in the 40's, trashed it and never looked back. The fake is the least of your concerns right now. Staying quit one day at a time is high priority.

Jayhawk is right,, ya'll are in the thick of it. Where you guys are will last a minute or two. Believe it or not, your brains are rejoicing. Finally the healing that it's wanted to do for years.

You are making your way to a door that is hard to get to and hard to open. You will like what's on the other side. Keep pushing through. Glad to be quit with both you guys.

Hot damn, I bet naked big boob girls are on the other side of the door!!!!!!lol....

In all seriousness, I greatly appreciate all the support.

I'm still saying that something good is going on with my heart rate. My average HR per ride is down by almost 3% and it recovers quicker between hard efforts.

[srans]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro.  Just thought I would post it here to.  You guys are doing it man.  Keep it up.  Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

I also put a response for both of you and slid it over.

Good advice from jayhawk. Paradgmdawg, Don't worry about your fake intake. Its crazy what an addict will worry about while in the first stages of quit. Just worry about keeping the poison out. I took fake until I got in the 40's, trashed it and never looked back. The fake is the least of your concerns right now. Staying quit one day at a time is high priority.

Jayhawk is right,, ya'll are in the thick of it. Where you guys are will last a minute or two. Believe it or not, your brains are rejoicing. Finally the healing that it's wanted to do for years.

You are making your way to a door that is hard to get to and hard to open. You will like what's on the other side. Keep pushing through. Glad to be quit with both you guys.

[ParadigmDawg]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro. Just thought I would post it here to. You guys are doing it man. Keep it up. Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

Thanks Jayhawk,

I had a couple of difficult days in a roll but still kicking just fine. Slept like a baby last night after spending 4.5 hours on my bike first.

I was cleaning out the workbench, in the garage, this morning and found an old empty can. I punched it in the face...

[Jayhawk]

I posted this in response to your post on dippin dave's intro. Just thought I would post it here to. You guys are doing it man. Keep it up. Life gets better.

Dave and Paradigmdawg - you guys are right smack dab in the battle for this. You guys are experiencing exactly what many of us have walked through.

Listen up. Follow us. Do whatever you have to do, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day to stay quit.

Post your roll. It is really important right now that you do that. Give us your word and do what you have to.

Being a little tired is a tiny price to pay for your health and your life. Do it.

Trust me on this... life gets better. Your sleep patterns return. The physical craves go away. You guys just need to keep fighting this good fight because once you get through this and on the other side......... man life is good.

Keep chopin' wood brothers.

We are right here with you.

- Jayhawk

[ParadigmDawg]

Day 6 today....pretty exciting.

Yesterday sucked again. A lot of strong craves but I made it through all of them.

My brain seems to be working pretty well and I am proud to say that my bathroom routine is back on track.

I had an awesome mountain bike ride yesterday. It started out at 96 degrees and ended up 77 degrees and pouring rain. I have never welcomed the rain so much.

I was pushing hard, trying to forget the nic demon and I got severe leg cramps with about 3 miles left to the trailhead. As bad as leg cramps hurt, they felt better than the nagging feeling of my demon the past couple of days. What a powerful addiction when leg cramps make you feel better because they help you forget the suffering from your quit.

Once back on the road, I saw a Der Weinersnitzel and pulled over and ate 3 hot dogs and a large diet coke. I then drove home and ate a meat-lover's pizza. Man, this quit is going to make me fat.

I think I skated through day 2 and 3 but day 4 and 5 has been difficult for me. Hopefully today is a little easier. Through it all, I haven't even considered, actually failing.

[srans]

Yesterday(day 4) was really rough, I think it was the worst I have felt since quitting. Strong craves that lasted 6 hours at a time and very 'on edge' all day. Surprisingly, not as foggy.

Grilling out brought on the worst craves and man I really wanted a beer but I knew better.

I also had "dip dreams" last night and just poor overall sleep. I feel ran-down this morning but it's early yet.

I'm going to blame the whole bad day on the fact that it was a scheduled off-day from the bike. I am just going to go see 2 accounts this morning and then I'm going to go get lost on a mountain bike trail the rest of the day. Nothing like beating suffering by suffering.

Just for the record, although it was a bad day, I never even considered putting a dip in my mouth.

You're doing great bike man. Keep doing what your doing. When you're feeling down go jump on your mountain bike and do 35. I'm glad you cleared that up, i've done mountain biking quite a bit in my life and i thought you was in the deepest darkest fog i've ever seen to ride 35. Unless their isn't any mountains in you mountian biking. I was just going to let you keep riding the 35 though. 'crackup' 'crackup'

All seriousness brother, it's tough sometimes, bottom line. Quitting comes from deep. You got to reeeeeelllly waaaant it and keep on keepen on. In time you will start uncovering all the lies and things will get better and better. You have to believe that. You brain is rewiring as we speak. You screwed your brain for years and now you are letting it heal. Healing takes time. Keep your head on a swivel but don't look back. Nothing back thier for you but slavery. I quit with you.

[ParadigmDawg]

Nice work, Greg. Days 3,4,  5 were the very worst for me. It gets better!

I'm going to have a great day today so F the worm-dirt.