I'm done with chew

[Kremerica]

Time to update my quit log.....

82 days free of poison. I feel great. There are days when my mood is less stable but for the most part I am in a good mood and embracing my new lifestyle. I'm finding that the same attitude of self control and discipline have carried over into other areas of my life. My eating is healthier and I'm more conscious about being active. Quitting chew seems to instill a desire to use control in all things. Not just in my addiction. I'm becoming a stronger man all the way around. Before I quit Nic, my average daily blood pressure was around 150/95. For the last several weeks its been around 117/75. I feel healthier. I have more energy from lack of poison in my veins and the residual blood pressure decrease. I love being a quitter. This isn't a temporary battle. This is who I am now. It's a permanent lifestyle. The hard craves are gone. I have fleeting thoughts of chew but I've learned that attitude dictates the intensity of craves. I do not glorify my past addiction. I embrace my addiction as an opportunity to daily deny myself an evil. Looking at being a quitter as a good thing instead of a "chore" makes it easier to push away those fleeting moments. I will continue to post with my brothers EVERY DAY because I know that as an addict I am always gonna be to close to losing the freedom I've earned. It takes one bad moment. I have the tools. I have a large network of brothers watching my back. Today I am quit. KTC and my daily promise will ensure I stay that way for tomorrow.

QLF with all of you!

Your killing it JJ!
New identity.... New life.... New reason to live ODAAT.
Also respect the help you are always giving others.
I quit with you EDD.
Rawls 151

JJ your a good man. You will defeat this you have the will and the mentality to get it done! Keep up all the advice and support you give to others, not only are you strengthening there quit but you're also strengthening your's! Enjoy reading your post strengthens my quit! Damn proud to be quit with you today my friend!

Some pretty inspiring shit here

[pab1964]

Time to update my quit log.....

82 days free of poison. I feel great. There are days when my mood is less stable but for the most part I am in a good mood and embracing my new lifestyle. I'm finding that the same attitude of self control and discipline have carried over into other areas of my life. My eating is healthier and I'm more conscious about being active. Quitting chew seems to instill a desire to use control in all things. Not just in my addiction. I'm becoming a stronger man all the way around. Before I quit Nic, my average daily blood pressure was around 150/95. For the last several weeks its been around 117/75. I feel healthier. I have more energy from lack of poison in my veins and the residual blood pressure decrease. I love being a quitter. This isn't a temporary battle. This is who I am now. It's a permanent lifestyle. The hard craves are gone. I have fleeting thoughts of chew but I've learned that attitude dictates the intensity of craves. I do not glorify my past addiction. I embrace my addiction as an opportunity to daily deny myself an evil. Looking at being a quitter as a good thing instead of a "chore" makes it easier to push away those fleeting moments. I will continue to post with my brothers EVERY DAY because I know that as an addict I am always gonna be to close to losing the freedom I've earned. It takes one bad moment. I have the tools. I have a large network of brothers watching my back. Today I am quit. KTC and my daily promise will ensure I stay that way for tomorrow.

QLF with all of you!

Your killing it JJ!
New identity.... New life.... New reason to live ODAAT.
Also respect the help you are always giving others.
I quit with you EDD.
Rawls 151

JJ your a good man. You will defeat this you have the will and the mentality to get it done! Keep up all the advice and support you give to others, not only are you strengthening there quit but you're also strengthening your's! Enjoy reading your post strengthens my quit! Damn proud to be quit with you today my friend!

[Rawls]

Time to update my quit log.....

82 days free of poison. I feel great. There are days when my mood is less stable but for the most part I am in a good mood and embracing my new lifestyle. I'm finding that the same attitude of self control and discipline have carried over into other areas of my life. My eating is healthier and I'm more conscious about being active. Quitting chew seems to instill a desire to use control in all things. Not just in my addiction. I'm becoming a stronger man all the way around. Before I quit Nic, my average daily blood pressure was around 150/95. For the last several weeks its been around 117/75. I feel healthier. I have more energy from lack of poison in my veins and the residual blood pressure decrease. I love being a quitter. This isn't a temporary battle. This is who I am now. It's a permanent lifestyle. The hard craves are gone. I have fleeting thoughts of chew but I've learned that attitude dictates the intensity of craves. I do not glorify my past addiction. I embrace my addiction as an opportunity to daily deny myself an evil. Looking at being a quitter as a good thing instead of a "chore" makes it easier to push away those fleeting moments. I will continue to post with my brothers EVERY DAY because I know that as an addict I am always gonna be to close to losing the freedom I've earned. It takes one bad moment. I have the tools. I have a large network of brothers watching my back. Today I am quit. KTC and my daily promise will ensure I stay that way for tomorrow.

QLF with all of you!

Your killing it JJ!
New identity.... New life.... New reason to live ODAAT.
Also respect the help you are always giving others.
I quit with you EDD.
Rawls 151

[I'm done with chew]

Time to update my quit log.....

82 days free of poison. I feel great. There are days when my mood is less stable but for the most part I am in a good mood and embracing my new lifestyle. I'm finding that the same attitude of self control and discipline have carried over into other areas of my life. My eating is healthier and I'm more conscious about being active. Quitting chew seems to instill a desire to use control in all things. Not just in my addiction. I'm becoming a stronger man all the way around. Before I quit Nic, my average daily blood pressure was around 150/95. For the last several weeks its been around 117/75. I feel healthier. I have more energy from lack of poison in my veins and the residual blood pressure decrease. I love being a quitter. This isn't a temporary battle. This is who I am now. It's a permanent lifestyle. The hard craves are gone. I have fleeting thoughts of chew but I've learned that attitude dictates the intensity of craves. I do not glorify my past addiction. I embrace my addiction as an opportunity to daily deny myself an evil. Looking at being a quitter as a good thing instead of a "chore" makes it easier to push away those fleeting moments. I will continue to post with my brothers EVERY DAY because I know that as an addict I am always gonna be to close to losing the freedom I've earned. It takes one bad moment. I have the tools. I have a large network of brothers watching my back. Today I am quit. KTC and my daily promise will ensure I stay that way for tomorrow.

QLF with all of you!

[flrednek28]

58 days in and I have to say I am happier today to be a quitter then I have ever been. Today things are good. I have my life challenges just like anyone else, but I am free of nicotine. And THAT makes me feel good. I will never be free of my addiction, but I get a great pride in knowing that the simple act of being involved with this brotherhood has given me everything I need to beat the bitch down on a daily basis. I've gotten to know some solid people here and those relationships have made me stronger. 59 days ago I thought that I was starting something impossible. Each day it has gotten better and each day I'm amazed at how long I let the bitch lie to me. I'm nowhere near safe ground in this battle, but I sure as hell am in the right camp with the right people. Thank you to all of my brothers in the trenches.

Proud to quit with you brother. enjoy your freedom. Rely on us for strength when you need it, help guide others to freedom when youre feeling strong.

x2. You're a BAQ and getting stronger every day. Keep on honing those tools that have gotten you this far, and never be afraid to use them. You've got the right mindset and all of the support/accountability you could ever need. Keep it up and those days Quit will stack up like cordwood.

Proud to be in this battle with you, together with our fellow quit brothers we can win this war one hill at a time!

[Tuco]

58 days in and I have to say I am happier today to be a quitter then I have ever been. Today things are good. I have my life challenges just like anyone else, but I am free of nicotine. And THAT makes me feel good. I will never be free of my addiction, but I get a great pride in knowing that the simple act of being involved with this brotherhood has given me everything I need to beat the bitch down on a daily basis. I've gotten to know some solid people here and those relationships have made me stronger. 59 days ago I thought that I was starting something impossible. Each day it has gotten better and each day I'm amazed at how long I let the bitch lie to me. I'm nowhere near safe ground in this battle, but I sure as hell am in the right camp with the right people. Thank you to all of my brothers in the trenches.

Proud to quit with you brother. enjoy your freedom. Rely on us for strength when you need it, help guide others to freedom when youre feeling strong.

x2. You're a BAQ and getting stronger every day. Keep on honing those tools that have gotten you this far, and never be afraid to use them. You've got the right mindset and all of the support/accountability you could ever need. Keep it up and those days Quit will stack up like cordwood.

[basshaug]

58 days in and I have to say I am happier today to be a quitter then I have ever been. Today things are good. I have my life challenges just like anyone else, but I am free of nicotine. And THAT makes me feel good. I will never be free of my addiction, but I get a great pride in knowing that the simple act of being involved with this brotherhood has given me everything I need to beat the bitch down on a daily basis. I've gotten to know some solid people here and those relationships have made me stronger. 59 days ago I thought that I was starting something impossible. Each day it has gotten better and each day I'm amazed at how long I let the bitch lie to me. I'm nowhere near safe ground in this battle, but I sure as hell am in the right camp with the right people. Thank you to all of my brothers in the trenches.

Proud to quit with you brother. enjoy your freedom. Rely on us for strength when you need it, help guide others to freedom when youre feeling strong.

[I'm done with chew]

58 days in and I have to say I am happier today to be a quitter then I have ever been. Today things are good. I have my life challenges just like anyone else, but I am free of nicotine. And THAT makes me feel good. I will never be free of my addiction, but I get a great pride in knowing that the simple act of being involved with this brotherhood has given me everything I need to beat the bitch down on a daily basis. I've gotten to know some solid people here and those relationships have made me stronger. 59 days ago I thought that I was starting something impossible. Each day it has gotten better and each day I'm amazed at how long I let the bitch lie to me. I'm nowhere near safe ground in this battle, but I sure as hell am in the right camp with the right people. Thank you to all of my brothers in the trenches.

[I'm done with chew]

This is a tough day! I'm sitting in the ICU talking to my wife's grandma. Well, more like talking at her. She doesn't talk back. My wife's parents died in a house fire when she was little and her grandma raised her. She is essentially her mother. Last week she had a mini stroke and we thought she was gonna be fine but while doing an MRI or some such test, they found a tennis ball sized tumor in her head. On Tuesday they did a craniotomy to remove the tumor and see if it was cancerous. They couldn't get all of it and the testing showed it was cancer. She woke up weds and declined chemo or any other treatment. Doc said she had 6-12 months to live if she did chemo or less without. I can't blame her for wanting to go without being riddled with radiation in her last months. Wednesday night she had another stroke. Post op strokes are even worse then normal ones. She has been on life support from then till last night. She is partially breathing on her own today and she can look at you but she cannot move her body or talk. Hell, I'm not even sure she understands what is happening. Her eyes are kinda blank. Doc just told me her prognosis for living much longer is poor. No time frame, just a caution to get her affairs in order. At some point tonight I have to tell this to my wife. She has wanted me to talk with the doc because she gets to emotional. But I wish I had never been told this. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. No one in my family has died. My wifes gramma has money and plans for her death but I think her plans have been shot to hell on this one. It's gonna be a hard time. I'm quit regardless. Chewing in the face of a disaster only makes the problem bigger. Gramma smoked for 55 years. Pretty sure I know what I'm gonna blame for her condition.


I haven't updated my intro in awhile. I'm always talking in the quit group. Can't believe my update is a medical one AGAIN. My family life is normally stable. After I quit chewing it seems like my family is getting hit from all angles. Maybe it's just an effect of being older (33). It won't do anything for my quit other then make it stronger. This post folks is what nicotine ultimately leads to. Recognize it. I don't want my family sitting in the ICU wondering what to do now.

We are with you every step of the way. Stay strong brother.
Prayers for you and your family.
Good thing is your thinking more clearly without poison.
Reach out if you need us....EDD ODAAT.
Proud of be quit with you today.

First of all my friend God has plans for this sweet little lady! She's going home to be with some of her other loved ones. I don't know your wife's gramma but just listening to you she's a sweet little woman everyone love's but at least she may not have to suffer! Maybe your wife can rest at ease knowing she will always be watching over her. I believe when you die you always get to keep watch on your loved ones! It can be just as tough on you but be strong for your wife, she needs you. No way can you put poison in your mouth knowing that you could devastate your wife by leaving here early in life! Stay quit my brother! My prayers are with you and yours!

Thank you. All of you. Things are ok. Gramma is improving but that's all relative because she won't make it long. It's sad. My wife is coming to terms with it, though it won't be easy when she does pass. Today is day 52 in my quit. I thought I was tired of chew 52 days ago. But today I have grown to hate it. It's taking my wifes gramma sooner then she should go and I'm seeing my brother and friends enslaved by it. It's amazing to see how all encompassing it is for people once we quit. I really was blinded by my addiction. A weed that kills.... And yet it tricks you into thinking you NEED it. Bullshit bi NEED to be free. I NEED to live. I've never been happier to have quit. Thank you KTC.

[pab1964]

This is a tough day! I'm sitting in the ICU talking to my wife's grandma. Well, more like talking at her. She doesn't talk back. My wife's parents died in a house fire when she was little and her grandma raised her. She is essentially her mother. Last week she had a mini stroke and we thought she was gonna be fine but while doing an MRI or some such test, they found a tennis ball sized tumor in her head. On Tuesday they did a craniotomy to remove the tumor and see if it was cancerous. They couldn't get all of it and the testing showed it was cancer. She woke up weds and declined chemo or any other treatment. Doc said she had 6-12 months to live if she did chemo or less without. I can't blame her for wanting to go without being riddled with radiation in her last months. Wednesday night she had another stroke. Post op strokes are even worse then normal ones. She has been on life support from then till last night. She is partially breathing on her own today and she can look at you but she cannot move her body or talk. Hell, I'm not even sure she understands what is happening. Her eyes are kinda blank. Doc just told me her prognosis for living much longer is poor. No time frame, just a caution to get her affairs in order. At some point tonight I have to tell this to my wife. She has wanted me to talk with the doc because she gets to emotional. But I wish I had never been told this. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. No one in my family has died. My wifes gramma has money and plans for her death but I think her plans have been shot to hell on this one. It's gonna be a hard time. I'm quit regardless. Chewing in the face of a disaster only makes the problem bigger. Gramma smoked for 55 years. Pretty sure I know what I'm gonna blame for her condition.


I haven't updated my intro in awhile. I'm always talking in the quit group. Can't believe my update is a medical one AGAIN. My family life is normally stable. After I quit chewing it seems like my family is getting hit from all angles. Maybe it's just an effect of being older (33). It won't do anything for my quit other then make it stronger. This post folks is what nicotine ultimately leads to. Recognize it. I don't want my family sitting in the ICU wondering what to do now.

We are with you every step of the way. Stay strong brother.
Prayers for you and your family.
Good thing is your thinking more clearly without poison.
Reach out if you need us....EDD ODAAT.
Proud of be quit with you today.

First of all my friend God has plans for this sweet little lady! She's going home to be with some of her other loved ones. I don't know your wife's gramma but just listening to you she's a sweet little woman everyone love's but at least she may not have to suffer! Maybe your wife can rest at ease knowing she will always be watching over her. I believe when you die you always get to keep watch on your loved ones! It can be just as tough on you but be strong for your wife, she needs you. No way can you put poison in your mouth knowing that you could devastate your wife by leaving here early in life! Stay quit my brother! My prayers are with you and yours!

[MikePA]

Stay strong man. I can relate to everything you just said. I watched it first hand.

I sent you a PM. Feel free to bug me.

[Rawls]

This is a tough day! I'm sitting in the ICU talking to my wife's grandma. Well, more like talking at her. She doesn't talk back. My wife's parents died in a house fire when she was little and her grandma raised her. She is essentially her mother. Last week she had a mini stroke and we thought she was gonna be fine but while doing an MRI or some such test, they found a tennis ball sized tumor in her head. On Tuesday they did a craniotomy to remove the tumor and see if it was cancerous. They couldn't get all of it and the testing showed it was cancer. She woke up weds and declined chemo or any other treatment. Doc said she had 6-12 months to live if she did chemo or less without. I can't blame her for wanting to go without being riddled with radiation in her last months. Wednesday night she had another stroke. Post op strokes are even worse then normal ones. She has been on life support from then till last night. She is partially breathing on her own today and she can look at you but she cannot move her body or talk. Hell, I'm not even sure she understands what is happening. Her eyes are kinda blank. Doc just told me her prognosis for living much longer is poor. No time frame, just a caution to get her affairs in order. At some point tonight I have to tell this to my wife. She has wanted me to talk with the doc because she gets to emotional. But I wish I had never been told this. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. No one in my family has died. My wifes gramma has money and plans for her death but I think her plans have been shot to hell on this one. It's gonna be a hard time. I'm quit regardless. Chewing in the face of a disaster only makes the problem bigger. Gramma smoked for 55 years. Pretty sure I know what I'm gonna blame for her condition.


I haven't updated my intro in awhile. I'm always talking in the quit group. Can't believe my update is a medical one AGAIN. My family life is normally stable. After I quit chewing it seems like my family is getting hit from all angles. Maybe it's just an effect of being older (33). It won't do anything for my quit other then make it stronger. This post folks is what nicotine ultimately leads to. Recognize it. I don't want my family sitting in the ICU wondering what to do now.

We are with you every step of the way. Stay strong brother.
Prayers for you and your family.
Good thing is your thinking more clearly without poison.
Reach out if you need us....EDD ODAAT.
Proud of be quit with you today.

[I'm done with chew]

This is a tough day! I'm sitting in the ICU talking to my wife's grandma. Well, more like talking at her. She doesn't talk back. My wife's parents died in a house fire when she was little and her grandma raised her. She is essentially her mother. Last week she had a mini stroke and we thought she was gonna be fine but while doing an MRI or some such test, they found a tennis ball sized tumor in her head. On Tuesday they did a craniotomy to remove the tumor and see if it was cancerous. They couldn't get all of it and the testing showed it was cancer. She woke up weds and declined chemo or any other treatment. Doc said she had 6-12 months to live if she did chemo or less without. I can't blame her for wanting to go without being riddled with radiation in her last months. Wednesday night she had another stroke. Post op strokes are even worse then normal ones. She has been on life support from then till last night. She is partially breathing on her own today and she can look at you but she cannot move her body or talk. Hell, I'm not even sure she understands what is happening. Her eyes are kinda blank. Doc just told me her prognosis for living much longer is poor. No time frame, just a caution to get her affairs in order. At some point tonight I have to tell this to my wife. She has wanted me to talk with the doc because she gets to emotional. But I wish I had never been told this. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. No one in my family has died. My wifes gramma has money and plans for her death but I think her plans have been shot to hell on this one. It's gonna be a hard time. I'm quit regardless. Chewing in the face of a disaster only makes the problem bigger. Gramma smoked for 55 years. Pretty sure I know what I'm gonna blame for her condition.


I haven't updated my intro in awhile. I'm always talking in the quit group. Can't believe my update is a medical one AGAIN. My family life is normally stable. After I quit chewing it seems like my family is getting hit from all angles. Maybe it's just an effect of being older (33). It won't do anything for my quit other then make it stronger. This post folks is what nicotine ultimately leads to. Recognize it. I don't want my family sitting in the ICU wondering what to do now.

[rdad]

I'm sitting in a hospital right now and I figure I got nothing but time to put a thought out in text. A couple hours ago i got a call from the NYS police saying that my mom was in a head on collision not far from where I work. She was taking my 2yr old niece home when another driver crossed lanes and hit her Ford focus head on. He wouldn't tell me any more other then where the scene was and to get there as soon as I could. My brother (the father of my niece) works near me and I gave him a ride into work today so I picked him up on the way. I didn't know where the accident was so he drove my truck. As I rode with him to the accident I had the thought that if I chewed tonight, no one I know would blame me. My brother chews and it would have been simple to reach over and take his can out of my cup holder. I was ashamed with this thought. I was overwhelmed with the need to get my promise out to someone again today. I figured if I distracted myself with a text or call to someone reaffirming my promise to not chew today, then it would be enough to keep me from caving. So I sent a text to 5 people here who I have contact with. All I said was that my mom was in an accident and I was promising not to cave. I didn't know if it would help but I knew I somehow had to post roll again today with someone. The amazing thing was.... It DID work. In the short minutes it took me to text these guys we had reached the accident scene. My mom had already left the scene as well as two other people in two separate cars. I guess after she was hit by car # 1 she hit car #2. My niece was perfectly fine. Thank God for good car seats. While I waited to be told what hospital she was taken to I took a couple pics of the car. It's definitely totaled. I just bought the car for her 3 months ago. Anyway the hospital was only 5 miles away so we got there fast. My mom has a broken leg and a broken collar bone. And of course some serious looking bruises on her face from the air bag and chest from the seat belt. But shes awake and smiling. When I asked her how she was feeling she said great and then asked me how my quit was going. It made me choke up because in the middle of everything she was feeling she was concerned with my quit. See my mother quit smoking a year ago next week. She smoked my entire life. A year ago I wanted to quit chewing and so we made a pact, we would quit together. I made it a few days, and she never looked back. It took me until 25 days ago to finally quit for good and she has been one of my biggest supporters. She would have been disappointed more then anyone if I had used her accident as an excuse to cave. Funny thing is once I posted roll again via text and took the option off the table, it never came back again. I think roll in the am is good, but maybe a person needs to post it again throughout the day if needed. I'm thankful I took a second to send some texts out and more thankful they all responded. I'm hoping to leave the hospital soon. My mom will stay overnight, but while I'm waiting for her scans to be done I'm gonna sit my Nic free ass here and read on the sight that has helped me do what I can't on my own.

Glad all are ok. Scary stuff.

Just know that chew would have changed NONE of what happened. It does not have that kind of power. Popping a dip in is not the equivalent of Superman flying backwards around the earth to reverse time. It doesn't have that kind of power and Superman was a movie.

As you quot moves along, keep in mind that dip fills no voids in your life, it only creates more. You don't need that crap anymore. You never did...

Quit on...

I'm glad your family is ok. Family and friends is what life is really all about. When yu joined KTC you disn't expect to make new friends, but it is clear that you have gone just that. Congratulations on a job well done. One day at a time it gets better and easier.

Brother that is one of the best posts I have ever read here. Your Mom sounds like an awesome lady! I am so glad everyone is OK and that you are still quit. I promise your quit is stronger now. KTC quitting at its finest. Outstanding job.

[rdad]

Hello! My name is Jacob Johnson. IÂ’m about to turn 33 years old and IÂ’ve chewed for so long I canÂ’t remember what it was like to go through a day without chew. I started chewing when I was 16 years old. ItÂ’s crazy to see how long that is after I type it out. More than half my life! I have wanted to quit for the last several years but always convince myself that I canÂ’t do it. I tell myself that itÂ’s part of who I am and life wonÂ’t be as good without chew.

Recently I watched a movie (I forget the title) where a man who wrote a self awareness book helps a man quit smoking. The way he did it is what finally got me to this point. He made the young man face an ocean and yell out his name followed by the declaration that he DOES NOT smoke. It was about the mindset of this man. Rather than tell himself and others that he was “quitting” smoking, he took all the power of his addiction away by declaring that he DOES not smoke. Period!

My fear of the unknown has kept me from being tobacco free. I have always looked at it as an obstacle I canÂ’t overcome. Well, today I quit. IÂ’m not quitting. I AM NOT A CHEWER! I have finally realized that my mindset is what will make me successful in this new chapter of my life. IÂ’m leaving the negative self talk behind and I am going to move forward with enthusiasm.

I have done some reading and I know this is going to be hard. IÂ’ll probably have moments where I second guess all of this. But right now I am committing to be a non-chewer. And I am going to focus on that. Here goes everything!

I tell myself that itÂ’s part of who I am and life wonÂ’t be as good without chew.

Lie lie lie lie....... Devil talk. Nic B@*h. Call it what you want, but it is a LIE.
What's worse is you believe it, and so did I.
It's poison that a plant produces to kill invading bugs... That same poison will kill you.
And I promise you can't jump higher, run faster, think smarter, enjoy life more with poison.
Capitol letter BULLS#@T!
Sorry man... It just pisses me off when grown men get away from reality. You were not created to need POISON. It has only stolen your time, your potential, your attitude, and your health.

JJ... Learn how to post roll today. Let's go start over where that 16 year old STUD made a bad decision.

New identity.... New life.... New reason to live ODAAT.

I quit with you today.
Rawls

I really can't remember what it was like to not chew. I have a lot to recover from. It's only been a few hours and I already feel out of place in my own body. It's crazy how "off" I feel right now. I posted roll. But it looks like I may have messed it up.

Welcome, man. I screwed up roll two days in a row, so don't sweat it. I had to have two pages open at the same time in order to follow the directions correctly....I'm blaming the fog...hahaah. You've picked a good place to be and a lot of us are trying to correct dumbass decisions we made in our teens. You're smarter than I am by a few years, so hold on tight, enjoy the rage against the nicotine and your stupidity in falling for her bullshit for so long you ARE NOT A USER ANY MORE.

Brother that is one of the best posts I have ever read here. Your Mom sounds like an awesome lady! I am so glad everyone is OK and that you are still quit. I promise your quit is stronger now. KTC quitting at its finest. Outstanding job.