Flushing the shit b4 sleeping one last time

[DizzyDude]

The lesson I'm taking away is that stress will come and go but chewing as a coping mechanism only adds more stress. Also, what works as a substitute for some can be a reason to stop at the store for others and buy that last can you intend to stretch out over a month but consume in a day and a half.

Feel the Burn - come on back - dump the can...don't add to the stress!!! If at all possible run, bike, swim do whatever you can do to let that stress burn out through excercise. PM me if you need my number and need to yell at someone for 5, 10 or 15 minutes...every hour or two. Lets look back on this day as one full of crap, but with one silver lining. You told nic. you are smarter then it, you don't need it, it can go rot!! -- Your in my prayers bro -- December wants you back.. but needs you quit!

LoveTheBurn - You said "I'm definitely a cold turkey or nothing personality..." Cold Turkey starts now. I haven't seen you post roll. What you waiting on? You can't start until you eject all the fuckin' shit from your face, destroy all your cans, and fucking post roll.

We want you on this December Kiss Ass Quitters train. Get off your ass and get Quit, NOW!!!

[WAKEBRDN]

The lesson I'm taking away is that stress will come and go but chewing as a coping mechanism only adds more stress. Also, what works as a substitute for some can be a reason to stop at the store for others and buy that last can you intend to stretch out over a month but consume in a day and a half.

Feel the Burn - come on back - dump the can...don't add to the stress!!! If at all possible run, bike, swim do whatever you can do to let that stress burn out through excercise. PM me if you need my number and need to yell at someone for 5, 10 or 15 minutes...every hour or two. Lets look back on this day as one full of crap, but with one silver lining. You told nic. you are smarter then it, you don't need it, it can go rot!! -- Your in my prayers bro -- December wants you back.. but needs you quit!

[Kdip]

Thanks to those who checked in with me. I owe you an update and I won't lie about falling off the wagon.

I really should have expected the unexpected. Right after I quit my employer fizzles out, the bank decides to fuck up my mortgage modification, my dad runs a chainsaw into his leg, etc. etc. The universe is a weird place!

I never began to think about how I'd react if the shit hit the fan. Now I'm the definition of a backslider. Although I didn't go any further than sucking on mint bandits. I tried the fake stuff but it makes me feel like my head's exploding. Probably because my body is conditioned to actually get a fix when I stuff my lip.

The lesson I'm taking away is that stress will come and go but chewing as a coping mechanism only adds more stress. Also, what works as a substitute for some can be a reason to stop at the store for others and buy that last can you intend to stretch out over a month but consume in a day and a half.

I'm definitely a cold turkey or nothing personality and life is very cold right now. Just focusing on freelance projects hour by hour to stay distracted. If anybody needs a bunch of traffic driven to their website let me know. It's what I do and I'm available.

Sorry you have having a lot of shit going on in your life BUT that is NO EXCUSE for putting shit in your mouth!!! :angry: Mint Bandits or Copenhagen Fine Cut - NIC is NIC!!!! Come back when you are really READY to Quit!!! Caving is for Pussies!!!!

[davenc]

If anybody needs a bunch of traffic driven to their website let me know. It's what I do and I'm available.

Holy crap, we need to have a meeting sometime. I'd be interested in that.

[LoveTheBurn]

Thanks to those who checked in with me. I owe you an update and I won't lie about falling off the wagon.

I really should have expected the unexpected. Right after I quit my employer fizzles out, the bank decides to fuck up my mortgage modification, my dad runs a chainsaw into his leg, etc. etc. The universe is a weird place!

I never began to think about how I'd react if the shit hit the fan. Now I'm the definition of a backslider. Although I didn't go any further than sucking on mint bandits. I tried the fake stuff but it makes me feel like my head's exploding. Probably because my body is conditioned to actually get a fix when I stuff my lip.

The lesson I'm taking away is that stress will come and go but chewing as a coping mechanism only adds more stress. Also, what works as a substitute for some can be a reason to stop at the store for others and buy that last can you intend to stretch out over a month but consume in a day and a half.

I'm definitely a cold turkey or nothing personality and life is very cold right now. Just focusing on freelance projects hour by hour to stay distracted. If anybody needs a bunch of traffic driven to their website let me know. It's what I do and I'm available.

[labmanlance]

dumbasschewer - i think you picked the one username - isn't that ironic - "user name" since we're all fuckin drug "users", that applies to everyone quittin the dip on this site. nice call on the name choice.
You got this man, sounds lke you want it bad enough. my oldest daugter is half the age of yours. in the spring i was playing catch with her with a fuckin lipper in. way to make some memories huh. your 16 year old will remember your quit and probably be the best support you'll ever get. my 8 year old is for me....way more than my wife. one of the best lines of advise i've found on this site is this: "quitting can be the easiest hard thing you'll ever do or the hardest easy thing you'll ever do."
take it minute by minute, then hour by hour, then day by day. im 45 days in and i handle it just like that becasue i've found if I can break the craves down into small blocks of time, I can handle them...the idea of forever is still too big for me. but, i know i can beat this absurd drug addiction by staying on this site and taking it day by day. You can do the same, Man, you can do the same. just don't make it harder than it has to be.

[dumbasschewer]

Thanks for the welcomes so far. I was glad to see some activity. It gives me a distraction for a few minutes.

minuteofangle - You got it right. I'm not just trying to quit. I am quit. I had to. My body couldn't take any more. I'll let you know if I need your number. Appreciate the offer.

BlahBlah - Joining the December group today. My birthday happens to be then too. Nice coincidence.

Tarheel - It's good to realize others can relate.

kb81 - It's cool you've interacted with Jenny. That makes her story even more real and touching. I'll look for her site. There's a crazy reason her story hit me hard.

Five years ago I'd went without chew for about 16 months. Then the doctor found a large tumor in my chest between the bronchial tube and coronary artery. It couldn't be typed but showed all the signs of malignancy. Surgery was performed and they removed my left lung and all lymph nodes they could find. Three days after leaving the hospital a lab determined the tumor was a rare, freakish, benign type. So my family and I dealt with the possibility of a cancer battle. It was a relief to be cleared but I was out a lung without the benefit of health insurance. I got stressed out and started chewing again. A year later I had treatment for years of acid reflux and another surgery to tighten my stomach opening.

My strategies to get everything in my life back on track haven't gone the best. As I was re-thinking my approach for this new month I suddenly re-remembered what it was like to think I might be dying. I realized I was still in denial over it. The fact is I am going to die - eventually. Whenever it happens will be too soon. When acceptance hit me I was incapacitated. I owe my wife 20 years for doing something that could only hurt our marriage. She's taken great care of herself and it feels like she's been more true/committed to the relationship than me. That sucks ass.

Dudes (and maybe chicks), we're all going to die. Our brains are just wired with a bunch of defense mechanisms to deal with this fact. We use these powerful mental tools to consciously do a habit we know will kill us. It's fucking stupidity. I'm not stupid and I don't want to die!

I am now on Day 2. Did a few "reusers" Thursday and Friday morning and then nothing for the rest of the day. Feel pretty good. It was time. Dipped off and on for almost 30 years-mostly on. Can't believe I was 3 years away from 50 and still doing this crap. Started in HS-w/the other football players and it has followed me since. Interesting to read that we are all in the same boat-looking for a bottle/staying up to do that last chew of the day, hiding the tin in some weird places. My wife and kids did not sign up for this. Was thinking today that I can't believe I stopped dipping at the start of football season and then started thinking-start of football season/start of hockey season/golf season blah blah blah. Having some trouble navigating around the site (maybe the "Fog" that I've read about but have found it useful. It is a great place to turn to so we know what to expect along the way.

[LoveTheBurn]

Thanks for the welcomes so far. I was glad to see some activity. It gives me a distraction for a few minutes.

minuteofangle - You got it right. I'm not just trying to quit. I am quit. I had to. My body couldn't take any more. I'll let you know if I need your number. Appreciate the offer.

BlahBlah - Joining the December group today. My birthday happens to be then too. Nice coincidence.

Tarheel - It's good to realize others can relate.

kb81 - It's cool you've interacted with Jenny. That makes her story even more real and touching. I'll look for her site. There's a crazy reason her story hit me hard.

Five years ago I'd went without chew for about 16 months. Then the doctor found a large tumor in my chest between the bronchial tube and coronary artery. It couldn't be typed but showed all the signs of malignancy. Surgery was performed and they removed my left lung and all lymph nodes they could find. Three days after leaving the hospital a lab determined the tumor was a rare, freakish, benign type. So my family and I dealt with the possibility of a cancer battle. It was a relief to be cleared but I was out a lung without the benefit of health insurance. I got stressed out and started chewing again. A year later I had treatment for years of acid reflux and another surgery to tighten my stomach opening.

My strategies to get everything in my life back on track haven't gone the best. As I was re-thinking my approach for this new month I suddenly re-remembered what it was like to think I might be dying. I realized I was still in denial over it. The fact is I am going to die - eventually. Whenever it happens will be too soon. When acceptance hit me I was incapacitated. I owe my wife 20 years for doing something that could only hurt our marriage. She's taken great care of herself and it feels like she's been more true/committed to the relationship than me. That sucks ass.

Dudes (and maybe chicks), we're all going to die. Our brains are just wired with a bunch of defense mechanisms to deal with this fact. We use these powerful mental tools to consciously do a habit we know will kill us. It's fucking stupidity. I'm not stupid and I don't want to die!

[kb81]

First and foremost, WELCOME to the brotherhood and WELCOME to a new you, and WELCOME to your NEW life.

I'm glad you mentioned the Jenny Kern story, because I too read that story and that was the beginning to my quit for the very last time. I have made a personal connection w/ Jenny and her daughter Kenzi. Tom died years ago, but they still suffer today. I chat online w/ Jenny and Kenzi from time-2-time. Trust me, you do not want your family to suffer the way the Kern family has suffered. If you have found their caring bridge site, you will see that Jenny still posts up there and you will also see she had re-married; however, is still very hurt and saddened by the loss of her husband Tom. Why do I bring this up? It's simple: it made you break down like a bitch (your words) and I want to further bring this home to you. I will let Jenny and Kenzi both know of the impact their story had on you.

You need to make a plan here. Here is a good plan to begin with:

1. Find your quit group

2. Post roll daily -never, ever, ever miss posting roll. Posting roll call is your promise to yourself, to your family, and to us that you will not dip for that day. We don't talk about quitting forever; moreover, we talk about quitting for each day. Then, when tomorrow comes, we post roll again and we quit for tomorrow. Then you will hit double digits, then day 50 comes, then day 100 to the HOF comes....make sense?

3. Make lots of posts -there is a high correlation between being active in this site and being a success.

4. Get phone numbers -quitting is psychologically hard and will probably be the hardest thing you do.

5. Find replacement therapy -nicotine-free dips (hooch, smokey mountain, etc), gum, seeds, whatever it is, keep that shit out of your face. I hated every nicotine-free dip out there except for Hooch. I though Hooch was amazing and the closes thing (in my opinion) to the real deal. www.hoochsnuff.com Replacement therapy does NOT constitute any form of nicotine, i.e. patch, gum, etc.

6. Understand -quitting is hard. I'm on day 135 and I crave almost daily. It does get easier with time. BUT, understand this, you will hit a time in your quit when you think you are cured and then one day...BAM!!!! the nicotine bitch slams you into the ground and you are in a fight for your life again. This is where I'm at now, but I keep a can of Hooch nearby when I get weak.

Please do know you are in a fight for your life. Our bodies are not meant for nuclear waste, arsenic, battery acid, etc. to be placed into our lips day-in and day-out. You also need to understand you will feel like shit. This is normal. Stay in this site and do lots of reading.

[Tarheel]

Lovetheburn,
you can do it. We've all been there. No better time to start than right now.
Tarheel

[BlahBlah]

Welcome in, man. I completely relate to what you are saying. Hope you joined the December quit group with me and the other addicts. I have been overwhelmed with guilt over the past few days for not doing this sooner but I am happy to be writing to you 60 hours free of the evil shit after 30 years of slavery. It can be done. Others have done it. You and I can, too.

[minuteofangle]

Welcome friend. Your story is very similar to many others on the site. After reading your introduction I believe you are starting this journey in the right state of mind. You are not "trying" nor will you "give you best" or any other weak assed shit. You sound like you are fed the fuck up and tired of this shit running your life. You will find you have many allies. Quitting is hard, and thats no bullshit. Get through the first week and you got this bitch by the balls. You can do this and I will help. If you need a number I will gladly PM you mine. Heres to you my brother congratulations on a great decision.

MOA

[LoveTheBurn]

Went to the dentist yesterday morning because every tooth in my head was aching. Had put off my regular cleaning for about 5 years because I couldn't stop long enough to get ready for an appointment. Started to wonder if I could stuff it in my nose. Would have switched to "injecting" it between my toes if possible.

I've been hooked on the sensational burn of a fat wad since I was 13. Turned 40 almost a year ago and promised my wife I'd quite for the ? time. She doesn't even bother to bring it up anymore. And my 16 year old daughter ignores my garbled, didn't spit before she came in the room, speech manner when she's telling me goodnight. That way she doesn't have to ask Mom again when I'm going to kick the nasty habit.

I can't power dip then dump the can before crashing only to drive to the store on autopilot for another last supply again the next day.

Searched online for some horrific photos of cancerous mouths to print out for motivation and came across this site. I read the Jenny  Tom story and broke down like a bitch. Reading some of the other pages caused me to realize that others out there understood all the humorous aspects of the habit as well as all the rationalizations that keep postponing a true quit date.

I'm committed to making my decision stick this time. I see all the people around me going through their day without obsessing about how long it's been since they gave in to a pinch and I want that freedom. Even though it's fun being able to get all the inside jokes on the Top 100 Benefits list.

My plan is to embrace the withdrawal symptoms as proof that I'm doing the right thing by taking control of my body. But it will be good to know I can whine to others who've been down the road ahead of me. I look forward to reporting in to maintain accountability. I'm counting on it making the difference this time. However, I know it's on me to deal with the minute by minute.