Just gonna rant - sorry if long winded but i need to get this out there. I was 16 when i had my first dip. passed out cold. Didn't really pick it up that much until college. Smoked cigarettes too, liked that more for a while. But people smell that on you and they see it - there's no hiding it. Eventually realized dipping was easier to hide - i've actually never said that aloud. I'm not supposed to dip - i'm college educated, have a law degree, and a successful practice. This is intended to sound obnoxious. I feel like a fucking hypocritical douche. Guys who dip are redneck fucking hicks without brains. Not me, I'm better than that. Well, apparently not. I woke up the other day to realize I'm 40 years old and go through a tin a day of skoal straight. Sometimes more if my wife is out of town. I dip to and from work in the car where no one can see me. I dip while taking a shit on the toilet. My wife doesn't know i dip, and when she asks, I lie. When she has caught me, I make up some bull shit. I lie to everyone. I hide it from everyone. I'm not telling anyone ever, except on here I guess - and this took some effort. Feels good though. The shame and guilt are awful, but I guess not as awful as the prospect of orphaning my kids. My last dip was this past Monday around 6:30pm. Still have the shakes occasionally, and gained five pounds. I never ask for help, with anything. But I have a feeling this may be tough to do alone. Just knowing someone is reading this is cool.