Coming out of the fog - Day 4

[Idaho Spuds]

Way to stay quit brother. Everyone has different craves and timing but check out this article:
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wha ... t-dipping/
A lot of my quit brothers said that they had tough times at odd milestones.
Don't fall into complacency, that is when the nic bitch will pounce

[mirvin]

Humorous anecdote about my trophy can: Had been replacing ceiling tiles in my basement. Now the phone line doesnÂ’t work. So IÂ’m downstairs, last night, chasing telephone wires through a 48 year old house. I donÂ’t understand how I fixed it, but it worked. So late last night, I sat down, noticed my front left pocket to be filled. Felt to see if my keys were the problem.

cue “The Twilight Zone” music

My trophy Red Seal can is in my pocket ..Â… Wait a minute here Â….. I wasnÂ’t anywhere near my dresser drawer.

Stood up Â…. Pulled it out Â…. It was the roll of electrical tape I used to wrap up the extra telephone wire.

BTW, on day 25 and IÂ’m still quit. Every once in a while, I still want to go outside and chew on a small tree to take care of the oral fixation, but still haven't.

[mirvin]

"Have you tried any fake chew? It sounds like you might need to get a couple cans to have handy.
Some people use, gum, candy, seeds and/or fake. I myself found that mint toothpicks are good.
Get some fake and don't cave, do whatever it takes to stay quit."

No. It seems that everything is going OK. By reading other quitter's comments, I feel that I should be experiencing much worse withdrawals. Not that I'm complaining, but I have pretty much chewed 16 hours a day for 35 years. After the first 5 days, the need seemed to drop way too quick. I still reach for my back pocket at times, but the "ache/freak out" seems to have subsided.

My fear is that the craving will come back and hit me like a ton of bricks. I know there will always be a desire, but will I experience this nic rage?

Maybe, I'm putting way too much thought into it. Just worry about it day by day. I'm not a "glass is half empty/full" kind of person. I'm a "the glass is the wrong size" person.

[Idaho Spuds]

Welp folks, I'm still here and still quit on my tenth day. Trophy can and all. 'na na'

Everything be OK. In truth, I'm kind of concerned. As I mentioned earlier, I've pretty much had a dip in my mouth, during my waking hours (and some while sleeping), since I was 18. The 5 years leading up to 18 was just practice, I guess. I did try to stop once 22 years ago. In fact, I did for 6 months. My fellow surveyors and engineers begged me to start up again. It wasn't until softball season tricked me into believing I could just do a little wad tobacco.

Anyway, my concern: After the first three days of hell, then two days of purgatory, it's really been rather painless. I don't like using the word "painless", because the desire is always there. My gums still call out for snuff. But, for the most part, it's not driving my every thought. I'm not angry. I am grouchy, but hey, that's every day. I still reach to my back pocket every time a trigger is met: wake up, finish a meal, finish a drink, sit back down at my desk, etc.

My fear: Is the craving going to hit me like a tractor-trailer when I least expect it? I know the "want" will always be there, but I feel guilty that I haven't been going through the same thing my fellow quiters have been.

Or .... is this all nicotine screwing with me? Try to get me let my guard down.

What are your triggers? Many veteran quitters say it takes a full year to experience all of the "normal" triggers. Here is my example:

I quit in April at the end of a my super busy work cycle, so that trigger was beaten. The next one was yardwork, which starts in May here. I was still 30 days in, so shaky, but stuck to the plan and made it. Then came poker, vacation, golf, weekend alone w/o wife and kids, football, hockey, holidays, etc. Do you see my point?

10 days is great my friend, but you need to recognize what makes you crave nicotine, and how you will be prepared to squash it. Do you have fellow quitters phone numbers, even for just a text?

A crave WILL hit you like a freight train from out of nowhere. Thats why you are here... to gain the strength and the tools to beat the cravings down and not cave.
and NO, the want will not always be there. I fucking hate nictotine and the "want" diminishes with the adding up of the +1's. The mental healing is a slow but steady process. Close the door, or as some say, burn your boat.

Mirvin,
Have you tried any fake chew? It sounds like you might need to get a couple cans to have handy.
Some people use, gum, candy, seeds and/or fake. I myself found that mint toothpicks are good.
Get some fake and don't cave, do whatever it takes to stay quit.
Idaho Spuds

[rdad]

Welp folks, I'm still here and still quit on my tenth day. Trophy can and all. 'na na'

Everything be OK. In truth, I'm kind of concerned. As I mentioned earlier, I've pretty much had a dip in my mouth, during my waking hours (and some while sleeping), since I was 18. The 5 years leading up to 18 was just practice, I guess. I did try to stop once 22 years ago. In fact, I did for 6 months. My fellow surveyors and engineers begged me to start up again. It wasn't until softball season tricked me into believing I could just do a little wad tobacco.

Anyway, my concern: After the first three days of hell, then two days of purgatory, it's really been rather painless. I don't like using the word "painless", because the desire is always there. My gums still call out for snuff. But, for the most part, it's not driving my every thought. I'm not angry. I am grouchy, but hey, that's every day. I still reach to my back pocket every time a trigger is met: wake up, finish a meal, finish a drink, sit back down at my desk, etc.

My fear: Is the craving going to hit me like a tractor-trailer when I least expect it? I know the "want" will always be there, but I feel guilty that I haven't been going through the same thing my fellow quiters have been.

Or .... is this all nicotine screwing with me? Try to get me let my guard down.

What are your triggers? Many veteran quitters say it takes a full year to experience all of the "normal" triggers. Here is my example:

I quit in April at the end of a my super busy work cycle, so that trigger was beaten. The next one was yardwork, which starts in May here. I was still 30 days in, so shaky, but stuck to the plan and made it. Then came poker, vacation, golf, weekend alone w/o wife and kids, football, hockey, holidays, etc. Do you see my point?

10 days is great my friend, but you need to recognize what makes you crave nicotine, and how you will be prepared to squash it. Do you have fellow quitters phone numbers, even for just a text?

A crave WILL hit you like a freight train from out of nowhere. Thats why you are here... to gain the strength and the tools to beat the cravings down and not cave.
and NO, the want will not always be there. I fucking hate nictotine and the "want" diminishes with the adding up of the +1's. The mental healing is a slow but steady process. Close the door, or as some say, burn your boat.

[Vinmoore83]

This shit Is tricky man. Yes its different for everybody. It hit me hard for about 30 days. My mental armor was full on the whole time(it still is).
Keep your guard up way up. Be ready for a hardcore crave. They come quick be ready to smash it down. Your brain is very smart its gonna poke and prod you looking for weakness in your armor. The shit is cunning.
I hear you about softball season mine starts up in 3 months and yeah I'm nervous as fuck about playing without dip. But that's a long way away. Let's worry about today. Your doing awesome man keep it up.

[Thumblewort]

Welp folks, I'm still here and still quit on my tenth day. Trophy can and all. 'na na'

Everything be OK. In truth, I'm kind of concerned. As I mentioned earlier, I've pretty much had a dip in my mouth, during my waking hours (and some while sleeping), since I was 18. The 5 years leading up to 18 was just practice, I guess. I did try to stop once 22 years ago. In fact, I did for 6 months. My fellow surveyors and engineers begged me to start up again. It wasn't until softball season tricked me into believing I could just do a little wad tobacco.

Anyway, my concern: After the first three days of hell, then two days of purgatory, it's really been rather painless. I don't like using the word "painless", because the desire is always there. My gums still call out for snuff. But, for the most part, it's not driving my every thought. I'm not angry. I am grouchy, but hey, that's every day. I still reach to my back pocket every time a trigger is met: wake up, finish a meal, finish a drink, sit back down at my desk, etc.

My fear: Is the craving going to hit me like a tractor-trailer when I least expect it? I know the "want" will always be there, but I feel guilty that I haven't been going through the same thing my fellow quiters have been.

Or .... is this all nicotine screwing with me? Try to get me let my guard down.

What are your triggers? Many veteran quitters say it takes a full year to experience all of the "normal" triggers. Here is my example:

I quit in April at the end of a my super busy work cycle, so that trigger was beaten. The next one was yardwork, which starts in May here. I was still 30 days in, so shaky, but stuck to the plan and made it. Then came poker, vacation, golf, weekend alone w/o wife and kids, football, hockey, holidays, etc. Do you see my point?

10 days is great my friend, but you need to recognize what makes you crave nicotine, and how you will be prepared to squash it. Do you have fellow quitters phone numbers, even for just a text?

[mirvin]

Welp folks, I'm still here and still quit on my tenth day. Trophy can and all. 'na na'

Everything be OK. In truth, I'm kind of concerned. As I mentioned earlier, I've pretty much had a dip in my mouth, during my waking hours (and some while sleeping), since I was 18. The 5 years leading up to 18 was just practice, I guess. I did try to stop once 22 years ago. In fact, I did for 6 months. My fellow surveyors and engineers begged me to start up again. It wasn't until softball season tricked me into believing I could just do a little wad tobacco.

Anyway, my concern: After the first three days of hell, then two days of purgatory, it's really been rather painless. I don't like using the word "painless", because the desire is always there. My gums still call out for snuff. But, for the most part, it's not driving my every thought. I'm not angry. I am grouchy, but hey, that's every day. I still reach to my back pocket every time a trigger is met: wake up, finish a meal, finish a drink, sit back down at my desk, etc.

My fear: Is the craving going to hit me like a tractor-trailer when I least expect it? I know the "want" will always be there, but I feel guilty that I haven't been going through the same thing my fellow quiters have been.

Or .... is this all nicotine screwing with me? Try to get me let my guard down.

[pab1964]

This is almost going to be fun, but first thing is first.

I have compromised my promise. At the one week mark, midnight this morning, I threw the remaining tobacco away from the can. I WILL keep the can as a trophy. Technically, I did say I was going to throw the can away.

The next part: For those who believe tough love is the right way Â… I appreciate your concerns with MY method.

The last part: For those who like to puff out their chests and carry a ruler in their pant’s inseam, “simmer down now”. This was MY way and so far it has worked. My gums still beckon the call of wintergreen snuff, but even that is subsiding. Consistency in the message. If you will say, “whatever you need to stop this addiction, we’re behind you brother”, then don’t be “get’n all up in ma face” with the wimp/whiny/whatever stuff. To reiterate: I did this cold turkey with a “Linus Blanket”. No drugs, no substitutes, no replacement nicotine, nothing more than a mere “sniff” every once in a while to get me through another hour. I have no problem with anyone else’s method, and if you want to be consistent, then be consistent.

P.S. when I said originally that I wasnÂ’t addicted Â…. thatÂ’s called sarcasm Â… or is that facetiousness Â… never could remember.

Not beating you up bud been dipping 38 years I hate this shit myself! Quit 100 's of times but this time I've got help and for the first time I really honestly think I have a chance! Put on your big boy pants I quit with you my friend! Day 16 and proud of every damn second of it!

[Dagranger]

Nice work. If I could give advice on cleaning everything up at once. Give quitting dip some time on its own. Quitting is really fucking hard and you need to focus every day if not every hour on staying clean. Sometimes shoving some food in your mouth is the difference between you quitting and you caving. After a couple of month hit your other vices.

[Rawls]

Well done old man.... No need for trophies. Just be that old mature, wise buck, your family needs, keep walking down that Hill ODAAT.

[mirvin]

This is almost going to be fun, but first thing is first.

I have compromised my promise. At the one week mark, midnight this morning, I threw the remaining tobacco away from the can. I WILL keep the can as a trophy. Technically, I did say I was going to throw the can away.

The next part: For those who believe tough love is the right way Â… I appreciate your concerns with MY method.

The last part: For those who like to puff out their chests and carry a ruler in their pant’s inseam, “simmer down now”. This was MY way and so far it has worked. My gums still beckon the call of wintergreen snuff, but even that is subsiding. Consistency in the message. If you will say, “whatever you need to stop this addiction, we’re behind you brother”, then don’t be “get’n all up in ma face” with the wimp/whiny/whatever stuff. To reiterate: I did this cold turkey with a “Linus Blanket”. No drugs, no substitutes, no replacement nicotine, nothing more than a mere “sniff” every once in a while to get me through another hour. I have no problem with anyone else’s method, and if you want to be consistent, then be consistent.

P.S. when I said originally that I wasnÂ’t addicted Â…. thatÂ’s called sarcasm Â… or is that facetiousness Â… never could remember.

[Steakbomb18]

Yup, sounds like you have this all figured out because it's not like you're addicted or anything. I mean, you've only been swallowing dip spit since the age of 18 and you're 53 now. I guess I don't quite get your mojo. You come to this site, seeking help or support I guess and you basically tell each person who has given you some advice to go pound sand.

Your entire intro is a recipe for failure and frankly that's a good thing. Why? Because other newbies need to read this and see what NOT to do? So rather than give you a piece of my advice, I'm just going to sit back and watch the train wreck that is going on. However, should decide to man up toss, toss your tin, and post roll...I'll simply shift my tone to, now prove me wrong because I have zero confidence in your quit. If you do so, I'll be happy to eat my words, but my money is on me right now.

[pab1964]

Man I don't believe I have ever seen so many whiny ass excuses for dipping! Man up throw the shit away! You got this shit! My quit brothers and I will be there!

[Mogul]

I remember a day where I wish I had a round metal file to rub on my gums. This shit is serious, but it gets much better. Sometimes clawing off your chest skin can be healthy, and quitting nicotine is one of those times. Be strong, be subtle, but be a fucking absolute prick to the nic. don't give in.

Mogul