General Discussion - 2019

[Dipper Dan Man]

well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time)....

Lot of people lost a lot of things 10 years ago. Thems were hard times and it seems like we're out of the woods. Be glad you didn't lose your jaw, you didn't lose your larynx or your tongue .........the job, wife and farm can be replaced.

Follow Chris's advice. Post in your quit group and get some people other than yourself to be accountable to.

[chris2alaska]

well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time)....

Hi Uncle Pat,

Here at KTC we quit One Day at a Time (ODAAT) posting our promise in our respective quit groups early each day to abstain from any form of nicotine for the next 24 hours.  If you believe you can keep your word to remain nicotine free for 24 hours and you are doing this for you and you alone, then you are in the right place.

Your Quit Group is December 2019 Pre-HOF Quit Group.  You can click that and it will take you right to it.  Posting roll consists of you typing your name, day count and your promise to remain nicotine free.  Find the most recent roll post, hit quote in the top right corner of the post, go to the last name under the header "New Bad Ass Quitters Post your promise here", click under the last person and type your name, day count and promise and then hit "Post" in the bottom right corner.

You can come in here and vent all you want.  We can take, we've been where you are at.  No reason to take it out on family, friends or co-workers, they did not do this to you, you did.  Learn about your addiction in these halls, there is a wealth of knowledge and knowledge is power.  Reach out to fellow quitters for support in times if need (this means exchanging phone numbers with other people on this forum and using those numbers to actually talk to people and build the bonds of brotherhood.  Exchanging numbers also helps keep you and your brothers accountable as now, we can get a hold of you if you forget to post one morning.

One more thing, you didn't quit ten years ago.  You had a stoppage of nicotine use for a while.  Now is the time you are quitting, and your addict brain will now that you are serious too, because it will fight you all the way.  You must be stronger than the addict in you.  Your addict brain will come up with the best damn excuses for you to use nicotine, but that is all they are, excuses and excuses are like ass holes, everyone has one and they all stink.

So go post roll, then start getting to know your quit brothers and sisters.  Exchange numbers through the Private Message feature of this forum only.  If you want my digits, send me a PM ans they will be yours, but I expect your in return.

chris2alaska 601 days nicotine free

[Uncle Pat]

Controlling urges

I've learned that if you ignore the craving, it just goes away, sometimes immediately. If you take even step towards giving in or don't dismiss the thought right then, your mind takes advantage and that's when the excuse making and justifications start coming.

With that in mind, how do you guys deal with the sudden urges? I've got sunflower seeds and Grinds to keep my mouth busy. I also reward myself with food or candy. You can't quit dip and lose weight at the same time.

Another strategy is I go play with my kids, take them out somewhere or sit down in my studio with my guitar ( lead singer of a band, working on a solo album ).

I've been fortunate, it's been a pretty easy road for me the past few weeks by using lessons I learned from previous failures. Let's here from you guys.

  Couldn'y agree more on the hobbies Dan..  Have aGuitar myself, a great alternate focus....

[Uncle Pat]

well fellas...  here goes my day three...   and i haven't told a soul i work with or any family...   it's a private thing for me...  i live alone and family all grown..   

I quit ten years ago, for one year....  i don't wanna scare anybody but in that year i lost my marriage, our farm property, and i also lost a full-time government job....   

I'm thinking, was it them or was it me??   Hmmm   quitting again, I know it can be done....   (Just trying not to be an arse hole to everyone i care about this time).... 

[Robisdone]

Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try exercising and being more active, it has always helped me through my problems whether nic related or not. As for the sex I had lost a bit of initiative with my girl when I quit initially but it has come back to me since then, I’m sure this will pass just like the fog if you need anyone to talk or vent to pm me or any of the guys here for our numbers

[chewie]

This topic is so awesome and well to read.

Oh boy... this smells spammy. I hope I'm wrong.

Dammit... I hate when I'm right. 

[chewie]

This topic is so awesome and well to read.

Oh boy... this smells spammy. I hope I'm wrong.

[Roman866]

This topic is so awesome and well to read.

[chewie]

I can't even remember what it's like to not dip everyday, or what my attitude is like without tobacco.  I'm looking forward to experiencing things without it.  I think this forum will be super helpful.

This right here stood out to me...

1) It'll take a LONG time for you to forget dipping... but it WILL happen.

2) It'll take a LONG time for you to learn to live again without dipping... but it WILL happen.

3) Getting here daily, developing relationships and posting daily WILL be super helpful.

Proud to be quit with you today!

Chewie

[2legit2quit]

Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try to keep yourself busy. Force yourself to do things.

Not sure what to tell you about depression other than it will likely wane at some point. Another poster said the nicotine high could have been covering up underlying depression.

What I can promise you for sure is this: In 2 years or 5 years or 10 years, a dip free version of you will be much happier than a version who decided to go back to the can. Hang tough, make a list of shit to do and keep busy.

Thanks for the responses.  I actually feel a little better today.  I appreciate the advice and will be checking in here each morning for roll call.  I can't even remember what it's like to not dip everyday, or what my attitude is like without tobacco.  I'm looking forward to experiencing things without it.  I think this forum will be super helpful.

[Dipper Dan Man]

Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Try to keep yourself busy. Force yourself to do things.

Not sure what to tell you about depression other than it will likely wane at some point. Another poster said the nicotine high could have been covering up underlying depression.

What I can promise you for sure is this: In 2 years or 5 years or 10 years, a dip free version of you will be much happier than a version who decided to go back to the can. Hang tough, make a list of shit to do and keep busy.

[chris2alaska]

Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

Hey @2legit2quit ,

Congratulations on making the best decision of your life.  To answer your question about sex, yes you can definitely experience a lack of desire to have sex while dipping and more so while quitting.  Your brain is so f'ed up from all the nicotine you've feeding it for the last 20 years that it doesn't know what to do with itself. It will take some time to rewire your neural pathways.  In the meantime, to keep your wife happy, do what you can to perform and seek medical treatment if you need to.  Be honest with your wife about what is going on with you and let her hep if she offers. (Could be fun for both of you, if you know what I mean). 

Next, you should start posting roll in the November quit group.  We quit here one day at a time (ODAAT).  To do that, we post roll call every morning in our quit groups.  Posting roll consists of putting your name, day count and your promise to abstain from nicotine in any form for the next 24 hours.  Then just keep your word,  rinse and repeat. 

Your quit group is November, becasue everyone in that group will hit HOF (Hall of Fame 100 Days Quit) during the month of November.  Everyone in there is going through the same shit as you at the same time so they are a great resource to talk things over with.  The vets in here have been through everything you are going through and can offer insight that other newer quitters might not think of yet.

I hope this helps and I am sure others will chime in with their own bits of wisdom as well.  So, now, go post roll in November, keep your word for the rest of the day, come back here again tomorrow after you wake up, take a piss and then post roll again (WUPP). Do that every day.

Get to know your fellow quitters by exchanging phone numbers through the Private Message feature here.  Those numbers will be your life line during bad craves provided you actually use them.  They are also the beginning of you web of accountability and brotherhood.

Send me a PM if you would like my digits, I am always happy to oblige.

Proud to quit with you,

Chris

[2legit2quit]

Hello -

I'm sorry if this has already been asked at some point in the past, but I've looked around and couldn't find anything related to the subject.  I'm 7 days quit, which is very early in the process and HOF.  Prior to quitting I had chewed probably about a can every 1 or 2 days (sometimes more) for about 20 years. 

Long story short, I've been having little to no desire to do anything, and by anything, I mean everything.  I feel very depressed in the mornings and most of the day, have to work through the fog, and my desire to live life is little to none.  What worries me the most is I'm 35 years young and happily married, yet I find my self with little desire to even have sex.  Has anyone else ever had issues with their sex life during quitting (or even while they were dipping)? 

I've seen a therapist and a doctor about depression, and I just started taking lexapro for anxiety, which is probably why I dipped in the first place - to mask my anxiety/depression.  Anyway, I wanted to pose this question because I'm curious if it's related to quitting or something else. 

Thanks and I'm glad I found this forum.

[DonkeyMN]

Controlling urges

I've learned that if you ignore the craving, it just goes away, sometimes immediately. If you take even step towards giving in or don't dismiss the thought right then, your mind takes advantage and that's when the excuse making and justifications start coming.

With that in mind, how do you guys deal with the sudden urges? I've got sunflower seeds and Grinds to keep my mouth busy. I also reward myself with food or candy. You can't quit dip and lose weight at the same time.

Another strategy is I go play with my kids, take them out somewhere or sit down in my studio with my guitar ( lead singer of a band, working on a solo album ).

I've been fortunate, it's been a pretty easy road for me the past few weeks by using lessons I learned from previous failures. Let's here from you guys.

To quote myself and a dude around here who's got a few days quit under his belt - Do something else.

It seems like a simple thing to say but it's truth.  Go for a walk, bike, shit just drop and give me 20 pushups.  Water and excercise are the best for getting rid of craves, followed by stuffing something else in your mouth.  I did fake, beef jerky, mints, it didn't really matter.  That and having a big ol sack to be held accountable from people here, your kids, your wife, whomever.

Nicotine and tobacco are always going to be there.  YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT SHIT IN YOURSELF.  Its a choice, do something else.

[Dipper Dan Man]

Controlling urges

I've learned that if you ignore the craving, it just goes away, sometimes immediately. If you take even step towards giving in or don't dismiss the thought right then, your mind takes advantage and that's when the excuse making and justifications start coming.

With that in mind, how do you guys deal with the sudden urges? I've got sunflower seeds and Grinds to keep my mouth busy. I also reward myself with food or candy. You can't quit dip and lose weight at the same time.

Another strategy is I go play with my kids, take them out somewhere or sit down in my studio with my guitar ( lead singer of a band, working on a solo album ).

I've been fortunate, it's been a pretty easy road for me the past few weeks by using lessons I learned from previous failures. Let's here from you guys.