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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2016, 11:28:00 AM »
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Day 7 and Day 8- did not get a chance to post yesterday and it was a big mistake. I had the worst day for anxiety. My mood was worse. I didn't fight with any of my family really, but I could tell I was a sarcastic asshole. Was really struggling to cope with anxiety. Tried a number of things, nap, doing chores, relaxing and watching football, playing with the little kids, using the fake stuff. Not much helped. I wasn't at all interested in going back to the can to help me cope. I had posted roll.

Today I feel a lot better, probably because it's a work day, probably because I'm not really in the fog and feel like I'll actually be productive at work this week, probably because the oral fixation is starting to subside some, probably because I feel significantly better from not having nicotine in my body.

It's interesting the timeline of nicotine for me, which went something like:

Age 18-22, this is fun, I get a buzz, not really a big deal that I chew because I can quit any time, I'm young and healthy and athletic, I'm invincible, numbers show there is almost no way of getting too sick from this

Age 22-25, I'm starting to date a lot more now, I really need to hide this from girls because they think it is disgusting, but, it'll be okay, I'll just use when I'm not around them, I'll quit when I get a serious woman, I start the habit of altering my life to accommodate chew. I am a slave. My freedom has left me and I don't even know it.

Age 25-29, Now I've got a serious woman, I said I'd quit, but now I'm going to hide it. Then she busts me, accepts it, and hates it. This happens with several relationships. I'm starting to get worried that I'll never quit because I need it every time I'm stressed out, I'm short of breath when I exercise, and scoring hot chicks isn't enough to get me to quit, what will get me to quit? Ah, I'll quit when I'm married. I'm still a slave.

Age 29-35, I get married, i have kids but I still don't quit. I'll hide it from the kids though, because I'm ashamed of my habit. My wife hates it, but at least I'm keeping it away from the kids. Then I get lazy and start doing it around the kids. You talk about quitting to the kids, how you should have never started, how ashamed and embarrassed you are, yet you keep going to pick it up at the c-store. You finally realize now, that when you were 18-22, this became a part of your identity and it has been your identity, but you failed to admit it. Still slaving away to chew.

Age 36- I'm 8 days into my quit. Taking it one day at a time. My eyes are open to the above, I'm admitting this, that I'm an addict, that I was a slave, and that I wish I would have found KTC years ago. But it's not too late.

I quit today. I quit with all my KTC brothers and sisters today.
Good stuff Viking! I appreciate you sharing this journey. You don't realize but, you are helping me and I thank you for that. One day at a time every damn day. Eyehatecope
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2016, 10:34:00 AM »
Day 7 and Day 8- did not get a chance to post what was on my mind yesterday and it was a big mistake. I had the worst day for anxiety. My mood was worse. I didn't fight with any of my family really, but I could tell I was a sarcastic asshole. Was really struggling to cope with anxiety. Tried a number of things, nap, doing chores, relaxing and watching football, playing with the little kids, using the fake stuff. Not much helped. I wasn't at all interested in going back to the can to help me cope. I had posted roll. I wish I would have posted something like this though, as this is what has been helping so much. Getting all this shit out of my head.

Today I feel a lot better, probably because it's a work day, probably because I'm not really in the fog and feel like I'll actually be productive at work this week, probably because the oral fixation is starting to subside some, probably because I feel significantly better from not having nicotine in my body.

It's interesting the timeline of nicotine for me, which went something like:

Age 18-22, this is fun, I get a buzz, not really a big deal that I chew because I can quit any time, I'm young and healthy and athletic, I'm invincible, numbers show there is almost no way of getting too sick from this

Age 22-25, I'm starting to date a lot more now, I really need to hide this from girls because they think it is disgusting, but, it'll be okay, I'll just use when I'm not around them, I'll quit when I get a serious woman, I start the habit of altering my life to accommodate chew. I am a slave. My freedom has left me and I don't even know it.

Age 25-29, Now I've got a serious woman, I said I'd quit, but now I'm going to hide it. Then she busts me, accepts it, and hates it. This happens with several relationships. I'm starting to get worried that I'll never quit because I need it every time I'm stressed out, I'm short of breath when I exercise, and scoring hot chicks isn't enough to get me to quit, what will get me to quit? Ah, I'll quit when I'm married. I'm still a slave.

Age 29-35, I get married, i have kids but I still don't quit. I'll hide it from the kids though, because I'm ashamed of my habit. My wife hates it, but at least I'm keeping it away from the kids. Then I get lazy and start doing it around the kids. You talk about quitting to the kids, how you should have never started, how ashamed and embarrassed you are, yet you keep going to pick it up at the c-store. You finally realize now, that when you were 18-22, this became a part of your identity and it has been your identity, but you failed to admit it. Still slaving away to chew.

Age 36- I'm 8 days into my quit. Taking it one day at a time. My eyes are open to the above, I'm admitting this, that I'm an addict, that I was a slave, and that I wish I would have found KTC years ago. But it's not too late.

I quit today. I quit with all my KTC brothers and sisters today.

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2016, 09:06:00 PM »
Besides the Vikings thing since my eagles beat you. Stay to the course you are becoming more and more a BAQ around here and I enjoy your intro. If you ever need anything hit me up my digits are always available
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2016, 09:15:00 AM »
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I don't want to sound like a fake chew enabler but use it if you need it. Especially right now during the beginning of your quit. Nothing wrong with it from my eyes. That's what it's there for. You are doing a great job. Proud to quit with you.
Chew on barbed wire or fiberglass or tin foil if it helps you stay quit, all 3 are better for you than Skoal. Nice intro Viking, too bad my Lions will spoil your day tomorrow!
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2016, 08:08:00 AM »
I don't want to sound like a fake chew enabler but use it if you need it. Especially right now during the beginning of your quit. Nothing wrong with it from my eyes. That's what it's there for. You are doing a great job. Proud to quit with you.
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 07:03:00 AM »
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Welcome to Day 6 of the quit!

Every day gets better and better. I feel less pain. I feel more freedom. All the salt in seeds and jerky has my mouth super dry. Going to have to really up the h2o intake today. Have a headache this am from dehydration.

In quits past (last real attempt about 8 years ago and for 1.5 years), the weekend would have absolutely terrified me. I've posted roll today. I'm not worried. I don't want to chew. I have February Furbies who are going through the same shit that posted. I have bad ass quitters with me. Having to be accountable to all these people really makes a huge difference.

Last night, I Had a couple of beers. I would not recommend doing that for most. I definitely felt a little weaker resolve, but as I don't drink to get drunk hardly ever, resisting the urge was not too bad. I was with my wife, I made sure I stayed close to the site, and I have a few digits in case.

Had trouble sleeping last night, but the increase in energy from not chewing is helping me deal with lack of sleep. I did not want to take a sleep aid last night though as it is a weekend and there should be times I can nap unlike the work week. Looking forward to the time when full night sleep shows up minus sleep aid.

I've gone this far without the fake stuff but given that I'll have more autonomy this weekend, I'm thinking I'll go get some and have it just in case. No way I'll get the real stuff. I'm done with it. I don't ever want to go into the fog again.

Here's to a fun and productive weekend without Skoal!
Viking you are doing this the right way. Logging your experience here will remind you later, when life is great, of the lie that nicotine really is. Well done sir.

I hope you are sharing all of this misery with your 17 year old too, I really liked reading how you are sharing with everyone. Very cool and accountable.

Freedom is ahead. It is worth it. One day at a time!

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 06:47:00 AM »
Welcome to Day 6 of the quit!

Every day gets better and better. I feel less pain. I feel more freedom. All the salt in seeds and jerky has my mouth super dry. Going to have to really up the h2o intake today. Have a headache this am from dehydration.

In quits past (last real attempt about 8 years ago and for 1.5 years), the weekend would have absolutely terrified me. I've posted roll today. I'm not worried. I don't want to chew. I have February Furbies who are going through the same shit that posted. I have bad ass quitters with me. Having to be accountable to all these people really makes a huge difference.

Last night, I Had a couple of beers. I would not recommend doing that for most. I definitely felt a little weaker resolve, but as I don't drink to get drunk hardly ever, resisting the urge was not too bad. I was with my wife, I made sure I stayed close to the site, and I have a few digits in case.

Had trouble sleeping last night, but the increase in energy from not chewing is helping me deal with lack of sleep. I did not want to take a sleep aid last night though as it is a weekend and there should be times I can nap unlike the work week. Looking forward to the time when full night sleep shows up minus sleep aid.

I've gone this far without the fake stuff but given that I'll have more autonomy this weekend, I'm thinking I'll go get some and have it just in case. No way I'll get the real stuff. I'm done with it. I don't ever want to go into the fog again.

Here's to a fun and productive weekend without Skoal!

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2016, 03:45:00 PM »
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Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.
Thanks, Rdad. Glad to have you in our corner. It's exciting and scary all at once to be rid of chew.
Glad to read what you are putting in your intro Viking. Proud to see you actually want this and you're sharing with others.

216v2 if you need help please ask one of us.
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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2016, 02:00:00 PM »
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On day 5. 40 year user. Got my mind right for staying off forever. Hope it is not too late after 40 years of use.
216v2, happy to help. You might want to connect with Palpatine, rDad, EyeHateCope, JPET, Pabs, or one of the other vets to help you with how to work the site.

I want to see your name, 216v2, posting roll everyday right with mine. Mine will be there. I will never catch Drome, but I always want to be the exact same number of days behind that crazy SOB that can't spell.

February 2017 will quit together. That's the only way it will work.

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2016, 01:56:00 PM »
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Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.
Thanks, Rdad. Glad to have you in our corner. It's exciting and scary all at once to be rid of chew.

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2016, 01:13:00 PM »
On day 5. 40 year user. Got my mind right for staying off forever. Hope it is not too late after 40 years of use.

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2016, 01:11:00 PM »
Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.

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Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 10:38:00 AM »
Good morning, friends, today is Day 5. I feel great physically. In many ways, mentally too, in other ways not so much. See this quit is so different than others because I'm so motivated to do it for me and I'm not doing it alone. I also have a pledge I make every morning, as a matter of fact, unless the baby is crying, the first thing I've done these last two days is post roll. It really does matter to do it early in the day.

For future quitters, I want to mention a few of the things I have been going through and things that may help.

1. Hot flashes. I have found no cure for this other than to drink water. They suck. They will pass.

2. Anxiety. I have had some incredibly severe bouts with anxiety. Chest getting all tense, choked for breath, the anxiety sucks. A number of things have helped me with this:
- hot chocolate, I know, right? really hot chocolate helps
- some oral fixation, I've been using jerky chew because I like the harsh texture. It really does help temporarily with the anxiety.
- posting on this board or texting with a pal, writing is therapeutic peeps, it's that simple. I feel a hell of a lot better just writing all this shit in my head in this blog

3. Sleeplessness. Benadryl has helped tremendously. I've used it 2 out of 5 nights when I've been real sleepless. I feel a bit groggy in the morning, but that has been going away with a hot shower.

4. Jaw pain- I'm not sure what's causing this one, but I'm not too concerned for the following reasons:
- Many others on this site report jaw pain when quitting
- It feels like a muscle pain, almost like that good sore after a good lift
- Something tells me this is really a healing from all the dip over all the years.

5. Anger. This one really sucks. All I can say is this one takes a ton of self-awareness and in my opinion, will be essential to the success of my quit because I need my wife's support. She sure the hell isn't going to be supportive very long if I'm an asshole to her.

I'm trying to use my extra energy to be more self-aware of when I am angry or when I have less patience than I had when I was chewing. I think this will really help. I read some pretty awful stories on this site about wives who have had to deal with some asshole situations. I get that not all of that can be averted, but I do think that a little self-awareness about our body does when we get angry can go along way.

For example, I don't know about everyone else, but when I get angry, I get an adrenaline rush. That is a recognizable feeling. So is the tightening of the chest, squinting, turning or shaking of the head, gritting teeth, I have to imagine all of us have some physical manifestation of anger that appears before we get out of control angry. I really think it is crucial to think about what that feeling is so we recognize it and can stop ourselves. It will keep your wife or husband in your corner. It will prevent you from running back to the can to deal with the anger. It will prevent you from creating a bullshit justification to go back to the can, like "My wife is such a bitch, I'll show her, I'm not going to quit."

None of us will be perfect with anger, but my hope is that maybe this information will help someone become self-aware, control their temper, and take it easy on loved ones. I brought this up because it happened to me this morning. I started feeling anger this morning toward my wife as she was copping a bit of a tude today (for good reason, it's Friday, she has a stressful job, a husband quitting chew, and 4 busy ass kids), and I was able to avert a significant blow out fight because I recognized my anger. It was tough as hell to keep myself at bay. What did it was that I recognized the adrenaline rush. I love my wife, she's amazing, and I need her in my corner to help me. I think I could have taken a real step this morning in the wrong direction, pushing her away. Were either of us perfect this am, no, but we got through a stressful morning with minor wounds.

Quit on, everyone. I hope new quitters and those who are thinking about quitting will be able to use this information in a productive way to help their quit.

Special shout out to all the bros who have been texting with me and helping me through. You guys have made this so much easier on me. Thanks Palp and JPet.

- Viking, SKOL, not Skoal