Day 623.... my previous posts to my introduction can be found here.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/qs_xtreme/introductions-t11711.html
I don’t feel like I want to pull all that information here... but I do know that I want to remember it always.
Day 623.... my previous posts to my introduction can be found here.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/qs_xtreme/introductions-t11711.html
I don’t feel like I want to pull all that information here... but I do know that I want to remember it always.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ASSHOLE!
No, not that batdad....Welcome to the board. My name is Jim; my quit date is 11/11/2016.
Anyway... I have let nicotine control my life for far to long. I picked up my first tin when I was 15 and never looked back, that was over 25 years ago. I started smoking when I was 16, because it's just another way to feed that ugly monster. 2 years ago I quit smoking, it smelled bad and wasn't social like it used to be and honestly I don't miss it.
I have been slowly cutting down on my dipping for a bit. Then on Monday I was getting ready to go to bed and took the last dip from the tin. I got up Tuesday morning and it was so cold I didn't want to stop to pick up more. So I challenged myself to make it the work day without one, and I did. Then I went on a 3 hour road trip to drop my kids off to their mother, once again I challenged myself to not dip the whole way. When I got home I challenged myself again. So now I'm on day 3 of challenging myself not to dip.
The cravings suck... As all of you know. I have gum, sunflower seeds, mints and shredded beef jerky, and it still sucks.
So I choose to embrace the suck and continue to challenge myself one day at a time!
^^^^^^ Totally agree. But "never again" and "quitting forever" are big statements. So big, in fact, that new quits can get defeated just by the thought of those. So, that's why POSTING ROLL has nothing to do with "never again" or "quitting forever."Quote from: batdad911No, not that batdad....Welcome to the board. My name is Jim; my quit date is 11/11/2016.
Anyway... I have let nicotine control my life for far to long. I picked up my first tin when I was 15 and never looked back, that was over 25 years ago. I started smoking when I was 16, because it's just another way to feed that ugly monster. 2 years ago I quit smoking, it smelled bad and wasn't social like it used to be and honestly I don't miss it.
I have been slowly cutting down on my dipping for a bit. Then on Monday I was getting ready to go to bed and took the last dip from the tin. I got up Tuesday morning and it was so cold I didn't want to stop to pick up more. So I challenged myself to make it the work day without one, and I did. Then I went on a 3 hour road trip to drop my kids off to their mother, once again I challenged myself to not dip the whole way. When I got home I challenged myself again. So now I'm on day 3 of challenging myself not to dip.
The cravings suck... As all of you know. I have gum, sunflower seeds, mints and shredded beef jerky, and it still sucks.
So I choose to embrace the suck and continue to challenge myself one day at a time!
I must say, I like your attitude. Your challenges will become all the easier by this time next week. Posting roll in your home group will prove useful in keeping quit. Why, you ask? Because without this accountability, relapsing (what we call 'caving') increases exponentially. There have been a few occasions in my own quit where posting roll that morning was the only thing that kept me from caving.
There is one pressing point - nicotine addiction never dies; it merely becomes dormant. In other words, we remain addicts, even after the cravings die off entirely. In essence, we are on lifetime parole from Nicotine Prison. The only term for that parole is that we never use nicotine ever again, period. Just one hit of nicotine revokes that parole and sends us back to the dungeon.
That should be it for now. Be well.
We surely agree on ODAAT. The beauty behind this is that it's always today; when tomorrow comes, it'll still be today, only then. So that works out to 'never again' taken in bite-size form.Quote from: Frobozz^^^^^^ Totally agree. But "never again" and "quitting forever" are big statements. So big, in fact, that new quits can get defeated just by the thought of those. So, that's why POSTING ROLL has nothing to do with "never again" or "quitting forever."Quote from: batdad911No, not that batdad....Welcome to the board. My name is Jim; my quit date is 11/11/2016.
Anyway... I have let nicotine control my life for far to long. I picked up my first tin when I was 15 and never looked back, that was over 25 years ago. I started smoking when I was 16, because it's just another way to feed that ugly monster. 2 years ago I quit smoking, it smelled bad and wasn't social like it used to be and honestly I don't miss it.
I have been slowly cutting down on my dipping for a bit. Then on Monday I was getting ready to go to bed and took the last dip from the tin. I got up Tuesday morning and it was so cold I didn't want to stop to pick up more. So I challenged myself to make it the work day without one, and I did. Then I went on a 3 hour road trip to drop my kids off to their mother, once again I challenged myself to not dip the whole way. When I got home I challenged myself again. So now I'm on day 3 of challenging myself not to dip.
The cravings suck... As all of you know. I have gum, sunflower seeds, mints and shredded beef jerky, and it still sucks.
So I choose to embrace the suck and continue to challenge myself one day at a time!
I must say, I like your attitude. Your challenges will become all the easier by this time next week. Posting roll in your home group will prove useful in keeping quit. Why, you ask? Because without this accountability, relapsing (what we call 'caving') increases exponentially. There have been a few occasions in my own quit where posting roll that morning was the only thing that kept me from caving.
There is one pressing point - nicotine addiction never dies; it merely becomes dormant. In other words, we remain addicts, even after the cravings die off entirely. In essence, we are on lifetime parole from Nicotine Prison. The only term for that parole is that we never use nicotine ever again, period. Just one hit of nicotine revokes that parole and sends us back to the dungeon.
That should be it for now. Be well.
Nicotine addiction is a big problem. So you gotta cut it down to size if you're going to have a chance at controlling it. All we are promising when we post roll is that we won't use nicotine TODAY. I don't plan on starting dipping again tomorrow, next week or next year. But I never said I won't. All we promise each other is that we will make it through TODAY without nicotine. And anybody can make it one short-ass day, right?
ONE DAY AT A TIME is how we control addiction. We'll deal with tomorrow, next week, next month, year...whatever...the same way too. We'll post roll and give our word that come hell or high water we will not break it. Our word is our bond. You have my word. And I guaran-fucking-tee you I'm going to keep it.
Posting roll one day at a time and keeping your word. That's all you got to do.
The 70Â’s sucked Donkey BallsÂ…. The 80Â’s have been really awesome for me. I havenÂ’t had many craves, and if I did they were mild. I have been eating less and only having a few mints a day. No seeds, no fakeÂ… Until last nightÂ…. I went out for some beers and cheese curds. Before heading out the door I did stock up on mints and fake. Boy, am I glad I didÂ… I was sitting there basically done with the curds, slurping down my 3rd of 4th beer (my gal was sober cab last night, love that woman!) And out of the blue WHAM!!! A huge crave!! One I havenÂ’t felt since the teens or 20Â’s!! All I could think about was getting a dip. Even my gal looked at me and asked what was wrong. I took a deep breath, remembered I promised you all that I would not do that today. Grabbed my fake and in a few minutes the crave was gone.Thanks.. as you were
I share this, because I fear what would have happened if I let my guard down? What if I had been there without my gal? What if I didnÂ’t grab that fake on my way out the door? My phone battery was dead, so I didnÂ’t even have you guys with me! It was a reminder to me to not get complacent. Always be on guard, because that Nic Bitch is waiting quietly for you. SheÂ’s waiting for you to be without your tools.
Glad to quit with you all today!
I posted this in my April group.. but I would like it here, because I feel I may need this reminder later in my quit.That's awesome! Take stock in these small victories.Quote from: BatdadThe 70Â’s sucked Donkey BallsÂ…. The 80Â’s have been really awesome for me. I havenÂ’t had many craves, and if I did they were mild. I have been eating less and only having a few mints a day. No seeds, no fakeÂ… Until last nightÂ…. I went out for some beers and cheese curds. Before heading out the door I did stock up on mints and fake. Boy, am I glad I didÂ… I was sitting there basically done with the curds, slurping down my 3rd of 4th beer (my gal was sober cab last night, love that woman!) And out of the blue WHAM!!! A huge crave!! One I havenÂ’t felt since the teens or 20Â’s!! All I could think about was getting a dip. Even my gal looked at me and asked what was wrong. I took a deep breath, remembered I promised you all that I would not do that today. Grabbed my fake and in a few minutes the crave was gone.Thanks.. as you were
I share this, because I fear what would have happened if I let my guard down? What if I had been there without my gal? What if I didnÂ’t grab that fake on my way out the door? My phone battery was dead, so I didnÂ’t even have you guys with me! It was a reminder to me to not get complacent. Always be on guard, because that Nic Bitch is waiting quietly for you. SheÂ’s waiting for you to be without your tools.
Glad to quit with you all today!
Nicky done being prepared BD. Better (more stable) days are in the very near future, keep it up!Quote from: batdadI posted this in my April group.. but I would like it here, because I feel I may need this reminder later in my quit.That's awesome! Take stock in these small victories.Quote from: BatdadThe 70Â’s sucked Donkey BallsÂ…. The 80Â’s have been really awesome for me. I havenÂ’t had many craves, and if I did they were mild. I have been eating less and only having a few mints a day. No seeds, no fakeÂ… Until last nightÂ…. I went out for some beers and cheese curds. Before heading out the door I did stock up on mints and fake. Boy, am I glad I didÂ… I was sitting there basically done with the curds, slurping down my 3rd of 4th beer (my gal was sober cab last night, love that woman!) And out of the blue WHAM!!! A huge crave!! One I havenÂ’t felt since the teens or 20Â’s!! All I could think about was getting a dip. Even my gal looked at me and asked what was wrong. I took a deep breath, remembered I promised you all that I would not do that today. Grabbed my fake and in a few minutes the crave was gone.Thanks.. as you were
I share this, because I fear what would have happened if I let my guard down? What if I had been there without my gal? What if I didnÂ’t grab that fake on my way out the door? My phone battery was dead, so I didnÂ’t even have you guys with me! It was a reminder to me to not get complacent. Always be on guard, because that Nic Bitch is waiting quietly for you. SheÂ’s waiting for you to be without your tools.
Glad to quit with you all today!
Thanks guys!! ODAAT!!Quote from: FISHFLORIDANicky done being prepared BD. Better (more stable) days are in the very near future, keep it up!Quote from: batdadI posted this in my April group.. but I would like it here, because I feel I may need this reminder later in my quit.That's awesome! Take stock in these small victories.Quote from: BatdadThe 70Â’s sucked Donkey BallsÂ…. The 80Â’s have been really awesome for me. I havenÂ’t had many craves, and if I did they were mild. I have been eating less and only having a few mints a day. No seeds, no fakeÂ… Until last nightÂ…. I went out for some beers and cheese curds. Before heading out the door I did stock up on mints and fake. Boy, am I glad I didÂ… I was sitting there basically done with the curds, slurping down my 3rd of 4th beer (my gal was sober cab last night, love that woman!) And out of the blue WHAM!!! A huge crave!! One I havenÂ’t felt since the teens or 20Â’s!! All I could think about was getting a dip. Even my gal looked at me and asked what was wrong. I took a deep breath, remembered I promised you all that I would not do that today. Grabbed my fake and in a few minutes the crave was gone.Thanks.. as you were
I share this, because I fear what would have happened if I let my guard down? What if I had been there without my gal? What if I didnÂ’t grab that fake on my way out the door? My phone battery was dead, so I didnÂ’t even have you guys with me! It was a reminder to me to not get complacent. Always be on guard, because that Nic Bitch is waiting quietly for you. SheÂ’s waiting for you to be without your tools.
Glad to quit with you all today!
Congratulations on Day 100, The HOF!! One badass quitter.Way to go Batdad, you have been a great contributor to a lot of quit on here.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Congrats BD! The first of many floors yet to come.Quote from: BrianGCongratulations on Day 100, The HOF!! One badass quitter.Way to go Batdad, you have been a great contributor to a lot of quit on here.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Look forward to reading your speech - Congratulations again!
Thank you guys!! Been a whirl wind of a day. HoF speech coming soon. It's nothing great, but it's something.Quote from: DonkeyMNCongrats BD! The first of many floors yet to come.Quote from: BrianGCongratulations on Day 100, The HOF!! One badass quitter.Way to go Batdad, you have been a great contributor to a lot of quit on here.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Look forward to reading your speech - Congratulations again!
| Bad-Ass April Roll Destroyers | ||
| Name | Notes | Days quit |
| Nycjetfan | 108 (pick up by text) Jet texted me early today for a pickup | |
| TonyDaQuitter | Day 108 | |
| pbr | 106 | |
| tejanopirate | Pacific | 106 days of freedom. Congrats to batdad and davidbmitchell. (bump fix) |
| bstimmle | 103 | |
| Atown | Pacific | 104 Sorry been so busy, had to get on and thank Batdad for taking the reigns and being the heartbeat of April. 100 days Odaat you did it! And congrats to my favorite dirtbag here David B , call me back if you can stop running long enough... Finally KGO, or Kevbro congrats and I want to thank you for your positivity and quit energy, texting with you gave me a lift when I was getting a bit burned out here. Gratitude to All here 'oh yeah' |
| bc10 | Day 103 - congrats Batdad, KGO, and Davidbmitchell! | |
| Zeviking | Pacific | 102 |
| jmonse | 102. Way to go all the way to the HOF | |
| Cycleman | Day 102 ..Congrats Batdad, Davidbmitchell and KG085! You guys rocked it to 100! | |
| Jason 336 | 103 (bump fix) | |
| Rotax | 102 | |
| econnor | 102 Way to go you HOF'ers! So freaking proud of yall/us each day we have our awesome brothers hit this first goal!! | |
| Jimco | 102 quit, Freedom feels good, although difficult at times!!! (bump fix) | |
| Jdrella17 | 102 | |
| Diesel29 | Day 102 | |
| IFYOURUWHOAMI | At 102. Wishing airborne was her to tell these guys what he thinks of Monitors for me. (pickup via text) (bump fix) | |
| TheJeeper | Pacific | Day 102 |
| Takebackmylife | Day 101. Quit today. Congrats to batdad and all the new HOF'ers! | |
| SemperFry | 101. | |
| GlockTherapy | 101! (bump fix) | |
| davidbmitchell | 100! Thanks for all the support guys. And congrats to Batdad and KGO85 | |
| batdad | '40' | 100 - with joy in my heart! There are to many people to thank on roll!! Thanks Viking, Law, and Bokie for the into! And congrats Davidmitchell and KGO85! Seeing you Gus post every day above and below me helps more than you know. (HOF DAY BUMP FIX!) |
| KGO85 | Mountain | Day 100! The one we've all been waiting for! Gentleman, I just want to thank you all for a wonderful ride so far. It's been a doozy at times, but damnit here we are! Conductor, to the HOF, please! Thanks to all my brothers. I quit with you all again today. |
| Airborne | 101 (bump fix) | |
| kevinosu | day 99 with Curry (another flipping bump) | |
| Curryb | day 99 | |
| Trevor | day 99 (bumped) | |
| ihatenicotine | Whats up 95! | |
| kjones | Happy 96 ! Congrats HOFamers!!! | |
| bigben47 | 95. Quit with the batdad, kg and Dave today, good work guys. | |
| Weedsta | 94 congrats to batted, kg, and dave...appreciate you guys and all you have done...quit on | |
| Ryan Elson | day 94 | |
| Dan-Man | 94...I'M SO SORRY FOR BEING LATE...I got called into some early meetings just got out. Congrats to all the new HOFer's! | |
| CWard | DAY 94 | |
| Skidwilly | Skidwilly-94 with '40' aka Batdad, David and KGO Kevin! | |
| Samrs | Samrs - Day 93 with David, Batdad, and KGO! Happy HOF day, guys! | |
| Kitkat | Kitkat - 93 with David, Batpadre and KGO. Congrats guys, proud to quit with you | |
| K-WO | 93 day | |
| Bruno79 | Day 93 | |
| Doc468 | Pacific | It's late, but I'm with you on day 93 |
| Medic268 | day? 93 morning everyonegreat day to stay quit | |
| Harn46n2 | Mountain | Day 93 |
| Anthony. | Day 93 | |
| Gauth05 | Day 91 Congrats to the new hall of famers!!! | |
| Randy H | Day 91 (bump fix) | |
| CMac23 | 89 - Day by Day | |
| JeffB | day 90 ODAAT MF (bump fix) | |
| Help The Bear | Day 90. Congrats Batdad, David and KGO!! | |
| cghbuilder86 | day-89 | |
| Brad F | Pacific | Day 89 - Congrats Batdad. KGO85 and David Mitchell! |
| Jambi | Mountain | Day 88 |
| Heliken | Pacific | Day 88 - Way to go batdad, David, and KGO! |
| DaveinMT | Mountain | Day 89. Congrats to the Hall of Famers! |
| rhargett3 | Day 88. Congratulations to Batdad, KGO85, and Davidbmitchell!! Proud to quit with you!! | |
| Chad_Crews | Day 88 Go Earnhardt! | |
| Thowell | Day 87- Congrats HOFers! | |
| BrianG | Day 85. Congrats to David, BatDad and KGO85!! Job Well Done!! (bump fix) | |
| Still Chet | Day 85! Good job guys. I'm proud of you. :) | |
| polishnick79 | Day 84 - Way to show 'em how its done you proud HOF'ers (bump fix) | |
| Fire maker | 83 congrats all (bump fix) | |
| njohns23 | 443, proud to quit with some more HOF'rs today!!! | |
| pab1964 | 837 congratulations batdad! [/color] |
Just going to move some of this post HoF funk stuff here... This is from day 124Quote from: walterwhiteI am also feeling some post HOF funk the last few days. I find solace in reading skoal monster in these times.Quote from: batdadThink about it this way...Quote from: walterwhiteThat "throw in the towel" feeling is all to real. You fuckers are a big reason for sticking it out. Shit... samrs runs around screwing up other rolls still. I'm dedicated to keep fighting this. But for how long?? I can't handle another 20-30-49-100 days of feeling like crap. I understand why the first week sucked. I get it that the 20's are rough. But for fucks sake. It's seriously all in my head at this point. I just want to feel normal.Quote from: bigben47The funk...Quote from: SkidwillyPendulum finally started swinging back down. I think my funk peaked yesterday, I hope. My rage was epic yesterday, rivaled the first few weeks, combined.Quote from: JeffBMine is still present, unmotivated, but this evening I am gaining a nice headache, so maybe I am on theout....thanks brothers for keeping me positive.Quote from: batdadStill battling my funk.... since day 101.Fuck the funk! The last round that I had eased up on Sunday. I thought about how hopeful and at the same time horrible I felt the first week. Keep strong dude; you're kicking ass.
Today I went and read my HoF induction post. I highly recommend you do that! After all the excitement of getting to the HoF it's nice to sit back and see how I have come. Really gave me a much needed boost for the day!!
Glad to quit with you all! And thanks again Viking, Law1358, and Bokie!
'biggun'
I hated it...I felt like throwing in the towel. Some tips that helped me get over it.
Positive Attitude...it goes a long way to improving your mood. Try it out. Start saying to yourself that tomorrow will be a better day. This funk will go away. Tomorrow when you wake up think that you will rock it. Think of all the positives in your life. How quitting is saving your life and that this is funk is temporary.
Exercise...go for a run. Go life weights. Take your dog for a walk. Enjoy mother nature.
Eat right...avoid processed foods. Eat plenty of veggies, fruit and protein.
Come here and write about it. I found that when I wrote about my struggles that it really helped me to move past them.
When all else fails...sit back, lift of your feet and say...fuck it for the day. Relax and try not to put to much pressure on yourself. Tomorrow will be better.
No... I'm not giving up. No, my quit is not in danger. I just don't know how much longer I can carry this feeling around for.
I have my boys this weekend, I hope it helps my brain rewire a bit.
This current funk will probably be the last major (long lasting) one that you get. Oh...there will be a day here or there or maybe a crave that sneaks up on you but that is it. I just read through my introduction...My funk lasted around 2 weeks...some days were ok during that stretch. After that...I was on cruise control for the most part...then around Labor day (250 days) it hit me again for a couple of days. Since then...maybe a couple of craves...but no funks...just enjoying my life dip free.
Keep doing what you are doing ODAAT and it will pass...I promise.
Not sure if it helps with your thoughts, but from a different perspective...
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Ah the coot, yes yes you are feeling some pain, a sense of loss perhaps? You quit for 100 days it was almost fun, a challenge, the community and the brotherhood were exciting and new. But now the first kiss is over and your quit is not so novel eh? Slowly reality sets in that you are really quit and your not going back THIS MY FRIEND IS A GOOD THING. However, Sally Rotten Crotch nic bitch isnt done with you yet, she's starting to whisper in your ear..... "Dean baby enough of these games, you know you can't leave me forever so why don't you just give up?" "Don't you love me anymore?"
I too hit a post Hof funk that was harder than the first two weeks of my quit. Its a gut check boy o .
There is nothing wrong with you a dip could fix, Chew does not fill a void in your life but creates one. You have lost nothing by giving it up. You say you still love it? What did you love you don't have now? Did it enhance your enjoyment of life? I doubt it. Perhaps your spouse found you more attractive, she always liked the pics in National Geographic of the dudes with a plate in their lower lip. Were you a better dad ? constantly hiding from your family or holding your baby in one hand and a spitter in the other? It helps you relax?, yes yes, but medically you know that's bullshit, it raised your bp and heart rate. the relaxation you felt was just getting back to normal because you fed the addiction and removed the withdrawl. Maybe you are secretly in love with Ahmed the gas station attendant, you miss going in and saying. " no not that can the other one,no to your left, no not the fucking peach god dammit the Copenhagen you fucker" All the while wanting to jump behind the counter and kill him cause your fiending.
There is nothing to miss Dean, its a scam.
The nic bitch is the mental version of the Sham Wow fag, you need to turn the fucking channel or put in some ear plugs. Honestly what helped me is finding some other poor deluded addict on his day one and watching him struggle like hell. It was almost sadistic at first. I felt satiatied when they hit the fog and the funk and the headaches and first no sleep then can't sleep enough, and the mouth sores and the fear of cancer. Watching them helped me stay quit because I hated that and won't do it again. I remember being desperate to stop and each night laying in bed thinking tomorrow tomorrow I wont dip. Watching guys cave forces me to remember that and not become complacent with my quit. Then it turned from love of dip and a sense of loss to a militant hatred. You have to cultivate that hate. Watching people struggle today pisses me off, not at them, but at the addiction. It is crazy the toll nic takes on us both mentally and physically. Find some strugglers in the new group and try to shepard them thru to the Hof. Don't get discouraged with yourself if they cave, many will. It will only remind you how far you have come and what you left behind. This will strengthen your quit. If they do make it, sharing the struggle with them will strengthen your quit as well.
It's all good! Glad to have you posting with us EDD!!Quote from: batdadGOT IT GUYS. 'facepalm''Quote from: Law1358Bump for HG and GasQuote from: batdadWay to go Underdogs!! It has been quite the exciting month to watch for sure!! Welcome back to the studio. IÂ’m batdad and with me is samrs. And we would like to take a moment to recap this exciting journey.Thank you so much guys..it will be an honor to post with you guys everyday. I expect you guys to hold me as accountable as anyone else in here..proud to be an underdog with you all
It has indeed been an amazing journey this month, batdad. The HOF train has wound its way across all of North America, from east coast to west, from the Gulf Coast to northern Canada. We absolutely could not have made it through this journey if it wasnÂ’t for the amazing efforts of Bokie and Law. Gentlemen - thank you so much for the time and effort you have invested in helping us celebrate the first of many, many milestones in our quits! ItÂ’s been a wild ride, and we owe a lot of that to you!
(Oh - for our brothers in May, I just want to reassure you that despite all thatÂ’s happened on the train this month, I have it on good authority that there is a crack crew working to prepare the train for you even as we speak! Though I understand they canÂ’t absolutely guarantee the train will be 100% goat-free, so you may want to keep an eye out. Just sayinÂ’.)
I couldnÂ’t be more proud of everyone in this group. As I look around at the other groups, this one is and always will be the best fit for me. I want to thank all the other vets for guiding us on our journey of quit, and a special thanks to Law1358 and Bokie for helping us celebrate this entire month!! You guys had a huge task and succeeded beyond expectation. If I could speak for the group, I would like to reach out to Law1358 and Bokie to invite them to post roll on the table with us every day. You two probably know us better than anyone else, and we would be honored to have you here.
Absolutely! In all honesty, I cannot imagine going on without having you two along with us. You have been such a blessing to us all over the past month that we consider you part of our April ‘17 family.
In fact - while Bokie and Law have been the most visible in our group this past month, there are a lot of vets who have invested themselves in our quits. If youÂ’ve been posting roll with us these past months, we would like to extend the same invitation to you. Let us know, and weÂ’ll put you on the table roll with us and let the world know that youÂ’re a Roll-WreckinÂ’ Fool!
You may be asking “what is next?” After this day of celebration, as we continue to the next milestone, be sure to reach out to the new groups and be the vet someone else needs!! Until next time! I'm Batdad and this is Samrs saying good night!
roflmao roflmao
edit: and for anyone else that would like to be added to the table
I'm sorry I suck at life sometimes. roflmao
Thank you for letting me be part of the table.
I promise I'll keep a better eye on Samrs.
Congrats on your 200 days quit batdad!Thanks so very much!!
My 200 day roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=11729146&t=30106725)Congrats BatDad! 2nd floor! Well done sir!
Great job, batdad! 'party' Keep paying it forward!Congratulations on the 2nd floor brother!
I see a lot of people send a goodbye message and leave after HoF. They say "I'll check in from time to time and let you know how I'm doing" or something to that effect.
Can I make a request? Don't. Do not fill me in with how you are doing.
I'm still battling this addiction one day at a time. And while some days are easy, most are tough as hell. I don't want to hear about your smooth sailing on the outside world. And filling me in when things are going great? Save that shit for Facebook or twitter. I want to hear how bad this sucks, how you have beat the nic down one more time. I want the grit, the war story. I don't to romantic shit.
The other reason this bothers me.... if you are not in here posting every day, then you are not here supporting me or any other member of April. Kindly fuck off. The ones that post every day, I know will have my back if I need it. The ones that post up a status update when they are in the mood, I won't help you. Not to be an ass, but because if you aren't here, you won't help me. And this shit is a two way street.
My quit of for me and me alone. But I know there's a shit ton of guys that would help me if I needed it. And there's a shit ton of people I would help in a second in return.
This isn't directed at anyone. I've just noticed a lot of folks getting magically cured the last couple weeks in other groups. And they post the end of summer camp bull shit we all heard as kids. And frankly, it's a line of crap. It takes less than one minute out of your day to say "hey, I'm good! If I need you, I'll let you know. Please do the same"
Folks get hung up on the accountability and forget the brotherhood some days.
/rant
Congrats on hitting the 3rd floor batdad!Thank you very much!! CouldnÂ’t have done it without being surrounded by some awesome quitters!!
Congratulations batdad! YouÂ’re doing a great job!Quote from: ChickDipCongrats on hitting the 3rd floor batdad!Thank you very much!! CouldnÂ’t have done it without being surrounded by some awesome quitters!!
Thanks Pab!!Quote from: batdadCongratulations batdad! YouÂ’re doing a great job!Quote from: ChickDipCongrats on hitting the 3rd floor batdad!Thank you very much!! CouldnÂ’t have done it without being surrounded by some awesome quitters!!
300 days... I remember early in this journey looking down and seeing those 300+ days in the support section and thinking "Wow, if I could only make it there' and here I am. This feels like such a big milestone.300 was one of the key milestones. As good as you feel... it gets so much better from here! Celebrate and enjoy your freedom!
The first 100 was spent getting myself and April to board that train. A good part of the next 100 was spent celebrating June's accomplishments. This last 100, well it's been all about me. I woke up yesterday feeling a bit more quit than usual. I've had ups and downs in this journey. But it took until the 290's before I had my first days of "Hey, I didnÂ’t think of dip all day" The craves are still there, and it serves as a constant reminder of how deep this addiction is. Every new adventure without dip is a crave, but also a victory.
I have also spent the last 30 days without alcohol. Again, a new adventure without dip. I feel like I am finding better ways to cope. I'm not nearly as quick to anger. And I'm not eating or drinking my troubles away, I'm facing them head on! In fact, some of them just get ignored because I'm not looking for a reason to feed my vices. Dare I say, at 40 plus years old, I am actually acting like a grown-up? None of these things change or get better over night. But working on something every day, one day at a time, you can achieve amazing things.
After 300 days, I can look at myself in the mirror and honestly be glad I have quit tobacco. I look at people with 14, 70, 120 days quit and I feel your pain. I feel it so deep, that I never want to go through it again. I know if I were to cave now, I would never be able to quit again. I know IÂ’m not cured, and I know there are plenty more challenges ahead, I also know that I am ready to face them One Day at a Time. Thanks again to all who have helped me get here. Way to many to mention! And that is a good thing!
One year ago, at this very time, I spit out my last dip. I had enough of putting a dead plant in front of everything else. I wondered if I could make it one day without nicotine. IÂ’ve been doing the same thing for the last year.Congrats batdad on your 1 year quit!
Thank you all for the support! I know I wouldnÂ’t be quit if I didnÂ’t put my screen name on roll every day.
You saved my life, and for that I am greatful.
Thank you all!!!
One year ago, at this very time, I spit out my last dip. I had enough of putting a dead plant in front of everything else. I wondered if I could make it one day without nicotine. IÂ’ve been doing the same thing for the last year.Congrats, batdad! I read every one of your posts in batdad's voice. Lol.
Thank you all for the support! I know I wouldnÂ’t be quit if I didnÂ’t put my screen name on roll every day.
You saved my life, and for that I am greatful.
Thank you all!!!
Stay focused Ryan and stay quit. Proud to be quit with you. Hit me up if you want to vent.Thanks brother. My quit is solid today.
'40'
What a day....Man, I can't think of anything worse than sucking on a cigar. They always made my clothes smell like shit and my mouth taste like shit the next morning. Can't believe that I used to actually PAY for them. :P
- we have a venue picked out for our wedding.... We really like it. The only available dates are weekends I do not have my sons. I emailed their mother, and she won't give me an answer. She keeps putting it off. I'm trying to be optimistic. If the answer was NO, she would have just said that, right???
- Found out a first responder and friend had a stroke this weekend. She is battling cancer for the 4th time. It's in her brain and lungs. They have her on hospice care. We are scrambling to make sure arrangements are set up for the fire department. She has always been a dear friend, her kids have babysat my kids.
- Found out a former fire chief from the area, who was also one of my instructors passed away yesterday....
I'm just emotionally drained. I kinda want to go home and curl up into a ball...
My quit is solid. Had I not posted today, I'm sure I would have went to the store and picked up something with nicotine. Probably a cigar, because the addict in me would have said "it's not the same"
It sucks JeffB caved. It sucks he has to start over from Day 1... But I'm glad today I am reminded of how big the small step of posting roll is to my life.
Thank you all for quitting with me every damn day!!
She passed this morning.Sorry to hear my friend, prayers for the family
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Fuck cancer. Fuck nicotine
Just reading through your (badass) intro and saw this sad post. Prayers going up.Quote from: batdadShe passed this morning.Sorry to hear my friend, prayers for the family
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Fuck cancer. Fuck nicotine
Thank you all. ItÂ’s been a challenging day to say the least....Quote from: pab1964Just reading through your (badass) intro and saw this sad post. Prayers going up.Quote from: batdadShe passed this morning.Sorry to hear my friend, prayers for the family
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Fuck cancer. Fuck nicotine
Congrats and Vibratulations on your 400 Batdad!Thanks chick!!! And thanks for being a huge part of my quit!!
Quote from: batdadGood luck to you. Just remember, it's hard to vape with your lips busted up.Quote from: LeonidasYeah.. Because the non-coddling way worked so well for both of us...Quote from: WeedstaDamn.Quote from: Cyclemanhey brother i have been there with my son...he is still dipping and sadly his GF said that if that is ALL he did she was fine with it since both her parents dip....an uphill battle I have here...kids will be kids and will try stuff...you are setting the right example so just know that and don't own this situation...it was his decision not yours...you be you brother and set that example and love him and it will work out...i have faith in the Lord so say a little prayer and have your conversation...best wishes...ODAATQuote from: batdadMy ex wife called today.Batdad, don't be too hard on yourself. Let's hope that it just adolescent curiosity. Good luck with the discussions toward the end of the week, I'm sure you will know the right things to say. Maybe share some stories from our eternal brothers....that might make it real.
My 14 year old was caught vaping on the bus.
He knows the struggles IÂ’ve gone through for the last 406 days.
IÂ’m disappointed... mostly in myself.
His mom smokes, I smoked and dipped his whole life.
WeÂ’re going to be together Wednesday through Monday... obviously there will be a discussion about it.
Fuck big tobacco
Dads have changed since I was a kid.
I guess coddling his balls might work.....
just kidding...sorta.
Text if you need to vent it out.
No, not that batdad....Yes it sucks but it gets better. I'm on Day 43 and sometimes the cravings come back in waves. You just have to push past them and keep trekking forward. One foot at a time. I used the fake stuff for about two weeks then got off that. Keep pushing through. It's worth the fight.
Anyway... I have let nicotine control my life for far to long. I picked up my first tin when I was 15 and never looked back, that was over 25 years ago. I started smoking when I was 16, because it's just another way to feed that ugly monster. 2 years ago I quit smoking, it smelled bad and wasn't social like it used to be and honestly I don't miss it.
I have been slowly cutting down on my dipping for a bit. Then on Monday I was getting ready to go to bed and took the last dip from the tin. I got up Tuesday morning and it was so cold I didn't want to stop to pick up more. So I challenged myself to make it the work day without one, and I did. Then I went on a 3 hour road trip to drop my kids off to their mother, once again I challenged myself to not dip the whole way. When I got home I challenged myself again. So now I'm on day 3 of challenging myself not to dip.
The cravings suck... As all of you know. I have gum, sunflower seeds, mints and shredded beef jerky, and it still sucks.
So I choose to embrace the suck and continue to challenge myself one day at a time!
It really is worth is SnuggleMonster!!Quote from: batdadNo, not that batdad....Yes it sucks but it gets better. I'm on Day 43 and sometimes the cravings come back in waves. You just have to push past them and keep trekking forward. One foot at a time. I used the fake stuff for about two weeks then got off that. Keep pushing through. It's worth the fight.
Anyway... I have let nicotine control my life for far to long. I picked up my first tin when I was 15 and never looked back, that was over 25 years ago. I started smoking when I was 16, because it's just another way to feed that ugly monster. 2 years ago I quit smoking, it smelled bad and wasn't social like it used to be and honestly I don't miss it.
I have been slowly cutting down on my dipping for a bit. Then on Monday I was getting ready to go to bed and took the last dip from the tin. I got up Tuesday morning and it was so cold I didn't want to stop to pick up more. So I challenged myself to make it the work day without one, and I did. Then I went on a 3 hour road trip to drop my kids off to their mother, once again I challenged myself to not dip the whole way. When I got home I challenged myself again. So now I'm on day 3 of challenging myself not to dip.
The cravings suck... As all of you know. I have gum, sunflower seeds, mints and shredded beef jerky, and it still sucks.
So I choose to embrace the suck and continue to challenge myself one day at a time!
Had a talk with the boy last night.... Made both my sons watch the Sean Marsee Video (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009362/1/#new)Thats a great talk to have with your kiddos...
I feel it went well. He claimed to not know it had nicotine... we talked about what peer-pressure really is, it's not some bully "making" you do it... It's someone asking, and the pressure is in your brain. It's ok to say "no thanks" and you'll never hear about it again
I asked if he was offered a cig, dip or tide pod or beer what he would have said. He told me his answer would have been no. I asked why did he agree to vape? He stated he didn't know it was bad. and everyone else was doing it.
We talked about my friend that just passed from cancer. And what nicotine does to your body and mind. And a bit of how addiction works. It sneaks up on you...
We had this talk in the car, as a family. Both my sons were there, I am glad I chose to keep this very public in our home. I told my son I was 408 days free from one of the most addiction drugs on the planet.. then asked him how far he was... His answer was 5 days, he added.. that it sucked to know he will always have less days than I do.
When I dipped and smoked, I never hid it from my kids. And when I quit I did the same thing. I'm glad I did, for this reason. They both know the daily struggle. The both know how hard that first two day, two weeks, two months were.
The biggest thing that stuck with me, is that he didn't know vaping had nicotine.... It's a fairly new product. Just like cherry skoal... it's sweet and low in nicotine... the perfect thing to get kids hooked. And turn them into future tobacco consumers.
So, talk to your kids about vaping.. or, the kids on their bus will..
You are a great leader, and father.Quote from: batdadHad a talk with the boy last night.... Made both my sons watch the Sean Marsee Video (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009362/1/#new)Thats a great talk to have with your kiddos...
I feel it went well. He claimed to not know it had nicotine... we talked about what peer-pressure really is, it's not some bully "making" you do it... It's someone asking, and the pressure is in your brain. It's ok to say "no thanks" and you'll never hear about it again
I asked if he was offered a cig, dip or tide pod or beer what he would have said. He told me his answer would have been no. I asked why did he agree to vape? He stated he didn't know it was bad. and everyone else was doing it.
We talked about my friend that just passed from cancer. And what nicotine does to your body and mind. And a bit of how addiction works. It sneaks up on you...
We had this talk in the car, as a family. Both my sons were there, I am glad I chose to keep this very public in our home. I told my son I was 408 days free from one of the most addiction drugs on the planet.. then asked him how far he was... His answer was 5 days, he added.. that it sucked to know he will always have less days than I do.
When I dipped and smoked, I never hid it from my kids. And when I quit I did the same thing. I'm glad I did, for this reason. They both know the daily struggle. The both know how hard that first two day, two weeks, two months were.
The biggest thing that stuck with me, is that he didn't know vaping had nicotine.... It's a fairly new product. Just like cherry skoal... it's sweet and low in nicotine... the perfect thing to get kids hooked. And turn them into future tobacco consumers.
So, talk to your kids about vaping.. or, the kids on their bus will..
Sounds like it was productive. Keep showing them the way. Boys learn from their fathers and you are setting a damn fine example.
IQWYT man.
Thanks guys! I'm just trying, like the rest of us, to do what's right every day... some days you get lucky and do more good than harm...Quote from: DonkeyMNYou are a great leader, and father.Quote from: batdadHad a talk with the boy last night.... Made both my sons watch the Sean Marsee Video (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1009362/1/#new)Thats a great talk to have with your kiddos...
I feel it went well. He claimed to not know it had nicotine... we talked about what peer-pressure really is, it's not some bully "making" you do it... It's someone asking, and the pressure is in your brain. It's ok to say "no thanks" and you'll never hear about it again
I asked if he was offered a cig, dip or tide pod or beer what he would have said. He told me his answer would have been no. I asked why did he agree to vape? He stated he didn't know it was bad. and everyone else was doing it.
We talked about my friend that just passed from cancer. And what nicotine does to your body and mind. And a bit of how addiction works. It sneaks up on you...
We had this talk in the car, as a family. Both my sons were there, I am glad I chose to keep this very public in our home. I told my son I was 408 days free from one of the most addiction drugs on the planet.. then asked him how far he was... His answer was 5 days, he added.. that it sucked to know he will always have less days than I do.
When I dipped and smoked, I never hid it from my kids. And when I quit I did the same thing. I'm glad I did, for this reason. They both know the daily struggle. The both know how hard that first two day, two weeks, two months were.
The biggest thing that stuck with me, is that he didn't know vaping had nicotine.... It's a fairly new product. Just like cherry skoal... it's sweet and low in nicotine... the perfect thing to get kids hooked. And turn them into future tobacco consumers.
So, talk to your kids about vaping.. or, the kids on their bus will..
Sounds like it was productive. Keep showing them the way. Boys learn from their fathers and you are setting a damn fine example.
IQWYT man.
Couple years ago I was lost in the woods. I went for a hike and got distracted. I was about 5 feet off the trail, and totally lost. It happens... It was summer time, and kinda late in the day. See... the plan was a quick hike in the woods and get back in time for supper... I had zero supplies, no food, no water, no watch, no compass, nothing.Did you ever make it out of the woods?
Being lost in the woods is scary, but you have to remain calm. I knew I had to make goals really quick, put a plan together and execute my plan. I've spent enough time in the woods I knew what had to happen. I knew I would need shelter if this was going to be longer than a few hours to find my exit... I knew food and water were going to be an issue by sunrise. I also knew I wouldn't have to worry about either one, if I simply got out of the woods.
I started walking. And in the thick Wisconsin woods, you cannot see very far. So I marked the spot I was standing, then I picked a point I could see and walked towards it. Progress... that is a good thing... Again, I marked where I was standing, looked off in the distance and picked a point to walk towards, but this time I had a reference of where I previously stood. my line could be straighter now.. thus taking me out of the woods quicker...
I repeated this process over and over again, trying to walk as straight of line as I could. There were obstacles in my way, things like downed trees, creeks, animals (Badgers are scary looking things in the wild) I also had to go around many things I would normally go over, I simply couldn't risk a twisted ankle or other injury.. but as long as I knew where I came from and where I was headed, I was on the right path... the path to freedom... the path to out of this woods...
That's kinda how I feel about this quit journey.. I didn't have the knowledge, or the equipment to do this on my own... but I found it here. I knew I wanted out of the "woods" I wanted to be free of my addiction. It started with a simple roll post "Batdad911 - 60 hours and counting." and I knew where I was starting, and where I wanted to go... I had to try... I had to try and get out of the woods! Every day I showed up and repeated the process over and over again. Making my promise, and keeping my word.. There have been bumps in the road, scary cravings, moments of weakness. tears of sadness and joy... plenty of rage days.. times I wanted to throw in the towel.. times I wanted to never be on KTC again... but I kept on, I tried not to do anything that would ruin my quit... I tried to avoid the danger zones... I want to get out of these woods...
My journey isn't over, but I know if I keep moving forward, remember where I have been and mark the spots I am at now, I will get there...
500 days is huge. It is a bigger milestone than I could have ever imagined. I'm not out o the woods yet. I gotta keep pushing, making smart choices and keep moving forward. I'm not out of the woods yet!!
Happy 1/2 dangle day!!Quote from: batdadCouple years ago I was lost in the woods. I went for a hike and got distracted. I was about 5 feet off the trail, and totally lost. It happens... It was summer time, and kinda late in the day. See... the plan was a quick hike in the woods and get back in time for supper... I had zero supplies, no food, no water, no watch, no compass, nothing.Did you ever make it out of the woods?
Being lost in the woods is scary, but you have to remain calm. I knew I had to make goals really quick, put a plan together and execute my plan. I've spent enough time in the woods I knew what had to happen. I knew I would need shelter if this was going to be longer than a few hours to find my exit... I knew food and water were going to be an issue by sunrise. I also knew I wouldn't have to worry about either one, if I simply got out of the woods.
I started walking. And in the thick Wisconsin woods, you cannot see very far. So I marked the spot I was standing, then I picked a point I could see and walked towards it. Progress... that is a good thing... Again, I marked where I was standing, looked off in the distance and picked a point to walk towards, but this time I had a reference of where I previously stood. my line could be straighter now.. thus taking me out of the woods quicker...
I repeated this process over and over again, trying to walk as straight of line as I could. There were obstacles in my way, things like downed trees, creeks, animals (Badgers are scary looking things in the wild) I also had to go around many things I would normally go over, I simply couldn't risk a twisted ankle or other injury.. but as long as I knew where I came from and where I was headed, I was on the right path... the path to freedom... the path to out of this woods...
That's kinda how I feel about this quit journey.. I didn't have the knowledge, or the equipment to do this on my own... but I found it here. I knew I wanted out of the "woods" I wanted to be free of my addiction. It started with a simple roll post "Batdad911 - 60 hours and counting." and I knew where I was starting, and where I wanted to go... I had to try... I had to try and get out of the woods! Every day I showed up and repeated the process over and over again. Making my promise, and keeping my word.. There have been bumps in the road, scary cravings, moments of weakness. tears of sadness and joy... plenty of rage days.. times I wanted to throw in the towel.. times I wanted to never be on KTC again... but I kept on, I tried not to do anything that would ruin my quit... I tried to avoid the danger zones... I want to get out of these woods...
My journey isn't over, but I know if I keep moving forward, remember where I have been and mark the spots I am at now, I will get there...
500 days is huge. It is a bigger milestone than I could have ever imagined. I'm not out o the woods yet. I gotta keep pushing, making smart choices and keep moving forward. I'm not out of the woods yet!!
Oh, and congratulations on 500!!
Gonna be good to put a face with your name in a couple days. Congrats on the 500, half comma club sir!Congratulations on that half dangle my friend! Well done!
534 - been a busy week. After camping this last weekend, we woke up to a wet laundry room Monday morning. As we were cleaning out the laundry room, we noticed we actually had a wet basement.... all the way around, wet basement... EVERYTHING had to go upstairs. We called into work and got started. So much water!!Nice work winning, batdude.
Finally today, I feel like we are ahead of it. I got all the carpet dried out. There are 5 dehumidifiers running in the basement. Tonight I will start putting new pad down. Hopefully by Monday our basement will be back to normal. Then I can get back to putting our camping gear away...
The amazing thing to me - I haven't had a single crave since Saturday... I know 550 days ago I wold have had a cancerous dead plant in my lip the entire time. I also know I would have knocked a spitter over at some point, resulting in a carpet stain that would be a forever reminder of this week. The freedom is amazing!!!
Welcome to The Mod Squad, asshole!Apparently theyÂ’ll let any idiot in.
I received a call yesterday that I thought would never happen...Congrats.
My ex wife is moving back to town... two years ago, she moved 3 hours away... she uprooted my sons and put them into a different school.
My gal and I decided to stay... Because I'm not following someone around the nation every time they decide they are in love... I am in control of my life, she is not...
For two years we prayed that my sons would be able to come back to the school they loved. For two years we prayed my kids could be with the friends that have had since they could walk.. for two years we prayed we wouldn't have to spend 6 hours in the car every other weekend, just to see them for 48 hours..
And after two years those prayers were answered... I just got done dropping off the enrollment papers. I don't want to be over excited. Until we agree on a new custody, anything can happen... but, it looks like I will be able to see my sons at every school function, and have 50/50 placement again. So many tears of joy were shed yesterday and today...
ThatÂ’s frigging awesome! Prayers are sometimes answered a little later than we like but theyÂ’re always heard. God is good my friendQuote from: batdadI received a call yesterday that I thought would never happen...Congrats.
My ex wife is moving back to town... two years ago, she moved 3 hours away... she uprooted my sons and put them into a different school.
My gal and I decided to stay... Because I'm not following someone around the nation every time they decide they are in love... I am in control of my life, she is not...
For two years we prayed that my sons would be able to come back to the school they loved. For two years we prayed my kids could be with the friends that have had since they could walk.. for two years we prayed we wouldn't have to spend 6 hours in the car every other weekend, just to see them for 48 hours..
And after two years those prayers were answered... I just got done dropping off the enrollment papers. I don't want to be over excited. Until we agree on a new custody, anything can happen... but, it looks like I will be able to see my sons at every school function, and have 50/50 placement again. So many tears of joy were shed yesterday and today...
A dangle, a shiny comma.Asshole, can't thank-you enough. Early in the quit you were a constant no nonsense presence, a beacon of stability in the fog of withdrawal.
Ever thunk it was possible.
Also helping thousands along the way.
Well done my friend, well done.
I hope you know how many of us look up to you, how many of us remember you being there in the beginning.
Much love my friend.
Some people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
Batdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
If you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I extend to batdad the same curtesy he has extended to me. Any bias you read into my posts is your own. I work hard to be as clear a I can around here and you always pop up to remind me how much I suck. Why? Why do you follow my posts around like a puppy with his pink thing out.
Frazzled. Let me redirect your attention: Batdad says he's leaving the site. Only Franx and I are trying to get him some accountability. Franx was sweet about it, I wasn't. Works both ways. Is batdad above the accountability here? Is it only a problem because I got involved? None of that matters.
Batdad made a lot of contacts. I know people will call and text him soon. I am posting this here in public because that is the point of this website as far as I understand it.
No one gets free parking, not batdad, not sajax, not frazzled.
Even if you don't post again @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) you've left a ton of content here that can help others. We didn't cross paths that often but I respect the commitment you had to making KTC work. I hope to see you here again soon.
You know.Even if you don't post again @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) you've left a ton of content here that can help others. We didn't cross paths that often but I respect the commitment you had to making KTC work. I hope to see you here again soon.
+1 @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) was a big inspiration and help in my first 100 days
Mine tooYou know.Even if you don't post again @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) you've left a ton of content here that can help others. We didn't cross paths that often but I respect the commitment you had to making KTC work. I hope to see you here again soon.
+1 @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) was a big inspiration and help in my first 100 days
I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I extend to batdad the same curtesy he has extended to me. Any bias you read into my posts is your own. I work hard to be as clear a I can around here and you always pop up to remind me how much I suck. Why? Why do you follow my posts around like a puppy with his pink thing out.
Frazzled. Let me redirect your attention: Batdad says he's leaving the site. Only Franx and I are trying to get him some accountability. Franx was sweet about it, I wasn't. Works both ways. Is batdad above the accountability here? Is it only a problem because I got involved? None of that matters.
Batdad made a lot of contacts. I know people will call and text him soon. I am posting this here in public because that is the point of this website as far as I understand it.
No one gets free parking, not batdad, not sajax, not frazzled.
It does seem a bit hypocritical to not call out batdad when so many others get called out onto the carpet. What is the magical date a quitter can leave the site and not be held accountable?
4+ years is my guess.
-Jeff
I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I extend to batdad the same curtesy he has extended to me. Any bias you read into my posts is your own. I work hard to be as clear a I can around here and you always pop up to remind me how much I suck. Why? Why do you follow my posts around like a puppy with his pink thing out.
Frazzled. Let me redirect your attention: Batdad says he's leaving the site. Only Franx and I are trying to get him some accountability. Franx was sweet about it, I wasn't. Works both ways. Is batdad above the accountability here? Is it only a problem because I got involved? None of that matters.
Batdad made a lot of contacts. I know people will call and text him soon. I am posting this here in public because that is the point of this website as far as I understand it.
No one gets free parking, not batdad, not sajax, not frazzled.
It does seem a bit hypocritical to not call out batdad when so many others get called out onto the carpet. What is the magical date a quitter can leave the site and not be held accountable?
4+ years is my guess.
-Jeff
5 years ago? never. These days? Anytime after about 300, I think. The guys on my group and I were having that convo via text last night actually. One guy said, how many of you guys still post roll daily? Crickets. Turns out, probably only once a month or once a week, or on a milestone, or never. After a couple a years, I turned into that too. Is it right? nope. But I never had a single person call me out for it. Not one. KTC has gotten soft. The same reason a Bsarno can cave a million times and keep coming back. The same reason somebody can cave once and get maybe 3 replies to their answers as we can see on display in July '21 right now. Like the rest of the world, this bastion of accountability is slowly crumbling.
Batdad put a ton of work into this site and I won't call him out for leaving. Sometimes, enough really is enough, and it sounds like he's had enough. Maybe he'll come back, and maybe he won't. I will still be his friend through text and calls, and I will be a lifeline to him in case he gets to that point again. KTC has always been about the relationships made and the friendships forged to me anyway. I've been friends with several admods over the time I've been around and it seems to be a thankless job that everybody is honored to get until they realize the massive work they're going to put in with zero pay, minimal thanks, and all the gripes. So if you guys get bored today, remember to thank your local administrators and moderators. As much as we love to give them crap, they're putting in the work behind the scenes that really make this place work.
I didn't take Sajax's post as bad at all, it seemed like genuine concern. I don't particularly care for the guy, but as with most here, QUIT is the reason we came and it's the reason we stick around in some form or fashion. I do like that about him and calling Batdad out was his way of showing love for a brother. If it wasn't, then I'm glad I'm not callous enough to see his other intent.
Love you guys, love you too batdad although you may never see this. Happy humpday y'all!
-Not Batdad
I completely get the burnout and needing to step back. However, all this site really requires is to: A) Post your Promise B) Keep your Promise. People love to make it more complicated and there is much more value to be had here than the basic roll post, but all this site really asks you to do is just that.I just don't like your approach. Looked like you were trying to grind his nose into.shit. That, to me, is a commonon thread to your posts.So are you here to help him.? Or.trap him?Reminder, Sajax...no one did say anything about this post from bat's group. Like 69 said, it looks like you are here to trap him with his.words. If that is true...you re showing your ass again.But if you are merely trying to help Batdad and care about his quit then I apologize. But It does look to be that you are trying to play the "I gotcha game" though, late at night when not many are around to see itIf you're going to tag me in nonsense to quote or paraphrase me, it would be great if you could get close to what I said. My post was meant to draw attention to his in the hopes that someone in his group that he has been posting with daily for over 4 years would noticeQuoteSome people just never get it.
Guys like this are usually doing the goodbye post for attention. And usually they don't come back until they are posting a new day 1. Can't quit for them.
This isn't quitting for x number of days.... it's quitting for today.
Around my 4 year mark I hit a bump in the road. Some personal and professional things were going on that had me stressed.... I wanted a dip so ducking bad. Like really bad... would I have caved?? Who knows. I even hesitated putting myself on roll that day.... I was called out by people on this forum. I finally made my promise, and took nicotine off the table. I struggled for a few days, then it finally passed.
If I wasn't a daily poster I don't know what would have happened... but as soon as I'm on roll, I know I'm quit for the day.
Will I be posting roll for 10 years? 10 weeks? 10 months??? Again, no idea. But I'll post roll today. And more then likely again tomorrow. And that's enough.
That was two months ago. Today you postedQuoteBatdad 1562 4-13. It's been an honor quitting with you gents for 4+ years. It's time for me to move on. Take care!
@Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) So what's going on? What changed in two months?
@Keith0617 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1356) @chris2alaska (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130) @69franx (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26) You guys seems to have some insight because you posted a "we wish you wouldn't go!" support on his roll. Here is why I even bothered to post any of this.
1) If any addict on this site posted a "Welp, so long and thanks for all the fish" at any day count, especially post HoF or some other "low" number, Guys like Keith and @Batdad (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2) and others would be all over him. Where is the fanfare here?
2) I was around this many days quit when I caved. His post back in Feb mention an almost cave. Now you are leaving? You cave Batdad? You cured now? Where is all that accountability I'm constantly reminded about?
So batdad can just peace out whenever and I'm the ass? @Frazzled (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=190) you only every come out of your cave to call me and asshole. I get it. Help me understand when it's ok to leave the site?
I don't see a lot of love for him here. Sorry to call your asshole, but if that is what you are doing, you said it yourself.
Frazzled. I don't like batdad, but I want him on the site. Both of those are true. Why are we giving him so much space and attacking me? I'm not the one saying he's cured around here. I don't like you either, but you're important to the site and people's quits. As far as I can see, only Franx and I are the one's giving batdad accountability here.
In batdad's own words "I'm not here to give him ass pats and good games. I'm here to quit and be held accountable."
I extend to batdad the same curtesy he has extended to me. Any bias you read into my posts is your own. I work hard to be as clear a I can around here and you always pop up to remind me how much I suck. Why? Why do you follow my posts around like a puppy with his pink thing out.
Frazzled. Let me redirect your attention: Batdad says he's leaving the site. Only Franx and I are trying to get him some accountability. Franx was sweet about it, I wasn't. Works both ways. Is batdad above the accountability here? Is it only a problem because I got involved? None of that matters.
Batdad made a lot of contacts. I know people will call and text him soon. I am posting this here in public because that is the point of this website as far as I understand it.
No one gets free parking, not batdad, not sajax, not frazzled.
It does seem a bit hypocritical to not call out batdad when so many others get called out onto the carpet. What is the magical date a quitter can leave the site and not be held accountable?
4+ years is my guess.
-Jeff
5 years ago? never. These days? Anytime after about 300, I think. The guys on my group and I were having that convo via text last night actually. One guy said, how many of you guys still post roll daily? Crickets. Turns out, probably only once a month or once a week, or on a milestone, or never. After a couple a years, I turned into that too. Is it right? nope. But I never had a single person call me out for it. Not one. KTC has gotten soft. The same reason a Bsarno can cave a million times and keep coming back. The same reason somebody can cave once and get maybe 3 replies to their answers as we can see on display in July '21 right now. Like the rest of the world, this bastion of accountability is slowly crumbling.
Batdad put a ton of work into this site and I won't call him out for leaving. Sometimes, enough really is enough, and it sounds like he's had enough. Maybe he'll come back, and maybe he won't. I will still be his friend through text and calls, and I will be a lifeline to him in case he gets to that point again. KTC has always been about the relationships made and the friendships forged to me anyway. I've been friends with several admods over the time I've been around and it seems to be a thankless job that everybody is honored to get until they realize the massive work they're going to put in with zero pay, minimal thanks, and all the gripes. So if you guys get bored today, remember to thank your local administrators and moderators. As much as we love to give them crap, they're putting in the work behind the scenes that really make this place work.
I didn't take Sajax's post as bad at all, it seemed like genuine concern. I don't particularly care for the guy, but as with most here, QUIT is the reason we came and it's the reason we stick around in some form or fashion. I do like that about him and calling Batdad out was his way of showing love for a brother. If it wasn't, then I'm glad I'm not callous enough to see his other intent.
Love you guys, love you too batdad although you may never see this. Happy humpday y'all!
-Not Batdad
I will say this in batdad's defense, as Broc said sometimes enough is enough. I did the same thing but I did not announce it, just poof. I was tired of getting tied in with folks who did not take this shit serious enough to stay quit. They think it is just a game, hence the retreads that have caved more than 3 times. It does take a toll on you. I used to always take text or call in the middle of the night from someone who needed help only to find out in the morning that they caved. In 13 years of quit, I have walked away 3 times, but I have also came back because I know where my quit home is. I also stay less personable with new quitters for that reason. Now the fact that batdad announced his departure worries me. Over the years that only meant one thing, CAVE. I hope to God that this is not true in this case. So to those who are connected with him, show him your support, be there at anytime. Also if you want PM me and send him my digits if he should ever want to chat about it. I have walked that mile.
Batdad didn't cave. No need for reckless speculation. He found a different place to post roll.
Batdad didn't cave. No need for reckless speculation. He found a different place to post roll.
That's happened before and it will happen again. Some folks justlikedecide to perform for smaller audiences. :P