Red Seal

[Thumblewort]

I see TROLL people (and Bruce Willis made footprints in my jello).

[soxfnnlansing]

Anyone that leaves a 1/2 can sitting on the mantle to 'sniff the nice aroma' every once in a while is just asking for trouble. I don't know, but there must be something in the water lately; Caleb, Caverwhiggs, and now this guy.

[Sajax]

Hey Snowflake,

I hope you're Quit. I hope you can take from this site what you need to keep yourself clean from this addiction, but in the light of KTC, you don't get it.

You tried to submit a HOF speech, which was turned into an Intro, becuase, well, we don't know where you are as far as Quit goes. I combined that Intro with your original Intro, becuase, well...we like to keep everything out in the open here.

Quitting is dirty work. There is no sanitizing it. There are no do-overs here.

I would support you in your Quit if you got on board, started posting roll and got involved here. If you're just going to lurk, and pop in here from time to time, thinking you have something profound to say...I say keep it to yourself.

Jump in tits deep, or move along. Please.

How did his travesty of a "Hall of Fame" speech end up front page KTC.org? I am dumbfounded.

[Nolaq]

Hey Snowflake,

I hope you're Quit. I hope you can take from this site what you need to keep yourself clean from this addiction, but in the light of KTC, you don't get it.

You tried to submit a HOF speech, which was turned into an Intro, becuase, well, we don't know where you are as far as Quit goes. I combined that Intro with your original Intro, becuase, well...we like to keep everything out in the open here.

Quitting is dirty work. There is no sanitizing it. There are no do-overs here.

I would support you in your Quit if you got on board, started posting roll and got involved here. If you're just going to lurk, and pop in here from time to time, thinking you have something profound to say...I say keep it to yourself.

Jump in tits deep, or move along. Please.

[tarpon17]

If the grudge fuels you so be it....I just know I wouldn't be 201 days quit without my quit brothers and KTC. If I was trying this alone I know I would fail every time because I did. It took becoming a part of this site/brotherhood to gain that knowledge.

Luck and trying are for those who hope they can endure being an addict. Quit is a state of mind. Quit is walking tall with a big fucking stick, slaying craves, temptations and addict speak in your path. Quit is realizing you can never have another, if you don't realize that are you really quit in a state of mind sense? I don't think so. Being quit, is like a snake (except for how Gmann uses them) you grow and outgrow your skin constantly. Learning things along the way, helping others, paying it back to the new guys/gals. Quit is all or nothing. Failure is not an option.

[lighty7]

If the grudge fuels you so be it....I just know I wouldn't be 201 days quit without my quit brothers and KTC. If I was trying this alone I know I would fail every time because I did. It took becoming a part of this site/brotherhood to gain that knowledge.

[Wt57]

Well Jr. Fan I congratulate you on lucking out and going it alone. I hope you enjoy looking at that can. Sorry you got butthurt and enjoyed having you coming and sticking us in the eye. A hundred day grudge, time to let go man. 'tease'

[Tuco]

That's the thing about special butterflies - their wings are paper thin.

I went back and read your original intro. No name calling, no harshing, none of it. Just a bunch of people telling the truth and shooting you straight. If that jazz hurts your tender sensibilities, so be it.

I hit 100 days a month ago the only way I know how: cold turkey. You're still somewhere around day 80 by my definition. But hey, at least you proved us all wrong.

[Skoal Monster]

This only makes a few posts out of me, but I have a reason for making it. When I joined the forum I didn't realize this was a no nicotine website. At the time, I was using nicotine gum to help from hurting people. I was subsequently harshed out when I made my introduction post for not quitting right. I would like to have posted roll and made a few friends but it just wasn't the right atmosphere. If anything, it created the kind of sting in my mind that made me want tobacco. So I layed low until now.

That is why I am making this post, for anyone out there who may end up in a similar situation; there is no right way, or hard and fast way to do it. I stayed on nicotine gum for three weeks until I was able to give it up too, but I thank God it exists because it made the transition smooth, where earlier attempts at Cold Turkey had failed or felt like I was only biding my time until....

Another thing I did that many condemn the practice of was leaving a half full can sitting on the bookshelf by the desktop. Now and then, I still pull it down and breathe the wintergreen finecut. Although, it is getting quite dry now losing it's allure... and hold.

It really hasn't been that bad. 27 years on, now a 100 days off. I put on 10 lbs. that's probably the worst of it. Good luck if you decide to quit.

G'bye. Good luck. I hope you try again if this doesn't work out.

Sheesh.

Congrats on your 100 days..... But.

Luck is for leprachauns. You keep it. Quit is a decision.

You quit inspite of the gum not because of it. There is not a single study that I am aware of that shows NRT to be helpful quitting dip. Secondly over 90% of all successful long term quits are cold turkey. I hope for your sake your in the 10%, but I doubt it.

The fact that your keeping a trophy tin and sticking your sniffer in it is simply stupid. You romanticize your addiction. You've learned little in your time on these boards. Your an addict, just like a heroin addict. Keeping the substance your addicted to in arms reach? Idiot.

Your still biding your time until..............

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

This only makes a few posts out of me, but I have a reason for making it. When I joined the forum I didn't realize this was a no nicotine website. At the time, I was using nicotine gum to help from hurting people. I was subsequently harshed out when I made my introduction post for not quitting right. I would like to have posted roll and made a few friends but it just wasn't the right atmosphere. If anything, it created the kind of sting in my mind that made me want tobacco. So I layed low until now.

That is why I am making this post, for anyone out there who may end up in a similar situation; there is no right way, or hard and fast way to do it. I stayed on nicotine gum for three weeks until I was able to give it up too, but I thank God it exists because it made the transition smooth, where earlier attempts at Cold Turkey had failed or felt like I was only biding my time until....

Another thing I did that many condemn the practice of was leaving a half full can sitting on the bookshelf by the desktop. Now and then, I still pull it down and breathe the wintergreen finecut. Although, it is getting quite dry now losing it's allure... and hold.

It really hasn't been that bad. 27 years on, now a 100 days off. I put on 10 lbs. that's probably the worst of it. Good luck if you decide to quit.

G'bye. Good luck. I hope you try again if this doesn't work out.

Sheesh.

Sorry for the harsh treatment there buddy. Hopefully you stay quit. Good job and good luck!

[AppleJack]

This only makes a few posts out of me, but I have a reason for making it. When I joined the forum I didn't realize this was a no nicotine website. At the time, I was using nicotine gum to help from hurting people. I was subsequently harshed out when I made my introduction post for not quitting right. I would like to have posted roll and made a few friends but it just wasn't the right atmosphere. If anything, it created the kind of sting in my mind that made me want tobacco. So I layed low until now.

That is why I am making this post, for anyone out there who may end up in a similar situation; there is no right way, or hard and fast way to do it. I stayed on nicotine gum for three weeks until I was able to give it up too, but I thank God it exists because it made the transition smooth, where earlier attempts at Cold Turkey had failed or felt like I was only biding my time until....

Another thing I did that many condemn the practice of was leaving a half full can sitting on the bookshelf by the desktop. Now and then, I still pull it down and breathe the wintergreen finecut. Although, it is getting quite dry now losing it's allure... and hold.

It really hasn't been that bad. 27 years on, now a 100 days off. I put on 10 lbs. that's probably the worst of it. Good luck if you decide to quit.

G'bye. Good luck. I hope you try again if this doesn't work out.

Sheesh.

[hankjrfan]

This only makes a few posts out of me, but I have a reason for making it. When I joined the forum I didn't realize this was a no nicotine website. At the time, I was using nicotine gum to help from hurting people. I was subsequently harshed out when I made my introduction post for not quitting right. I would like to have posted roll and made a few friends but it just wasn't the right atmosphere. If anything, it created the kind of sting in my mind that made me want tobacco. So I layed low until now.

That is why I am making this post, for anyone out there who may end up in a similar situation; there is no right way, or hard and fast way to do it. I stayed on nicotine gum for three weeks until I was able to give it up too, but I thank God it exists because it made the transition smooth, where earlier attempts at Cold Turkey had failed or felt like I was only biding my time until....

Another thing I did that many condemn the practice of was leaving a half full can sitting on the bookshelf by the desktop. Now and then, I still pull it down and breathe the wintergreen finecut. Although, it is getting quite dry now losing it's allure... and hold.

It really hasn't been that bad. 27 years on, now a 100 days off. I put on 10 lbs. that's probably the worst of it. Good luck if you decide to quit.

[Scowick65]

That's correct WT. I haven't had any tobacco since 30 July. There's zero chance of me going back to it, although I understand everyones justified demonization of nicotine. I'm concentrating on killing the can foremost and killing the nicotine slowly. I definitely don't feel safe from cancer, probably more paranoid than anyone here at the moment. That's why I had all the question about when would someone be a little bit out of the woods.
I've spent evenings after everyone goes to bed nowdays trying to see lists of people who got cancer from this stuff. Notable people, Youtube stories, read the stories here. There's not a ton of them out there considering how many people dip.
One thing I noticed about the youtube videos, the "product review" type clips are always younger people in their 20's making them. They remind me of me and my friends 25 years ago.. But I never see older people in their 50's and 60's making them...
So, there's not many older dippers?

Anyway, I'm getting off track back to the nicotine


There's a lot of my crops that have nicotine in them, and it's tomato season so don't expect me not to eat any of them. Thank God for the gum these first few days is all I feel like saying. I may have misunderstood the meaning of this site, I apologize.

My thinking was that even if I had to stay on the gum the rest of my life, I wouldn't be getting the cancer causing carcinogens in the tobacco. I only wanted to be on it a couple weeks tops because of the price.

Thank to the rest. Yes 27 years use with very few breaks of any kind. Started out reasonable and ended up with more and heavier use. The very first dabble in tobacco would put it back further than that even. At age 12, we had a stash of Hawken and Beech Nut (and some playboys). We used to build bicycle ramps, load up on the Beech Nut, get screeming down the hill and right before we'd go over the ramp say, I'm a Beech Nut nut, patterened after the commercials at the time. But after getting room spinning sick, I didn't use tobacco again until high school. Basic military training was about the only break in the action after that. I'll be back possibly when I'm nicotine free.

Hankjr, come back to KTC when you're ready to face reality. NRT is bullshit.

I'll second your motion Wolfe.

Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

[Air Force ADDICT]

That's correct WT. I haven't had any tobacco since 30 July. There's zero chance of me going back to it, although I understand everyones justified demonization of nicotine. I'm concentrating on killing the can foremost and killing the nicotine slowly. I definitely don't feel safe from cancer, probably more paranoid than anyone here at the moment. That's why I had all the question about when would someone be a little bit out of the woods.
I've spent evenings after everyone goes to bed nowdays trying to see lists of people who got cancer from this stuff. Notable people, Youtube stories, read the stories here. There's not a ton of them out there considering how many people dip.
One thing I noticed about the youtube videos, the "product review" type clips are always younger people in their 20's making them. They remind me of me and my friends 25 years ago.. But I never see older people in their 50's and 60's making them...
So, there's not many older dippers?

Anyway, I'm getting off track back to the nicotine


There's a lot of my crops that have nicotine in them, and it's tomato season so don't expect me not to eat any of them. Thank God for the gum these first few days is all I feel like saying. I may have misunderstood the meaning of this site, I apologize.

My thinking was that even if I had to stay on the gum the rest of my life, I wouldn't be getting the cancer causing carcinogens in the tobacco. I only wanted to be on it a couple weeks tops because of the price.

Thank to the rest. Yes 27 years use with very few breaks of any kind. Started out reasonable and ended up with more and heavier use. The very first dabble in tobacco would put it back further than that even. At age 12, we had a stash of Hawken and Beech Nut (and some playboys). We used to build bicycle ramps, load up on the Beech Nut, get screeming down the hill and right before we'd go over the ramp say, I'm a Beech Nut nut, patterened after the commercials at the time. But after getting room spinning sick, I didn't use tobacco again until high school. Basic military training was about the only break in the action after that. I'll be back possibly when I'm nicotine free.

Hankjr, come back to KTC when you're ready to face reality. NRT is bullshit.

I'll second your motion Wolfe.

[thewolfe]

That's correct WT. I haven't had any tobacco since 30 July. There's zero chance of me going back to it, although I understand everyones justified demonization of nicotine. I'm concentrating on killing the can foremost and killing the nicotine slowly. I definitely don't feel safe from cancer, probably more paranoid than anyone here at the moment. That's why I had all the question about when would someone be a little bit out of the woods.
I've spent evenings after everyone goes to bed nowdays trying to see lists of people who got cancer from this stuff. Notable people, Youtube stories, read the stories here. There's not a ton of them out there considering how many people dip.
One thing I noticed about the youtube videos, the "product review" type clips are always younger people in their 20's making them. They remind me of me and my friends 25 years ago.. But I never see older people in their 50's and 60's making them...
So, there's not many older dippers?

Anyway, I'm getting off track back to the nicotine


There's a lot of my crops that have nicotine in them, and it's tomato season so don't expect me not to eat any of them. Thank God for the gum these first few days is all I feel like saying. I may have misunderstood the meaning of this site, I apologize.

My thinking was that even if I had to stay on the gum the rest of my life, I wouldn't be getting the cancer causing carcinogens in the tobacco. I only wanted to be on it a couple weeks tops because of the price.

Thank to the rest. Yes 27 years use with very few breaks of any kind. Started out reasonable and ended up with more and heavier use. The very first dabble in tobacco would put it back further than that even. At age 12, we had a stash of Hawken and Beech Nut (and some playboys). We used to build bicycle ramps, load up on the Beech Nut, get screeming down the hill and right before we'd go over the ramp say, I'm a Beech Nut nut, patterened after the commercials at the time. But after getting room spinning sick, I didn't use tobacco again until high school. Basic military training was about the only break in the action after that. I'll be back possibly when I'm nicotine free.

Hankjr, come back to KTC when you're ready to face reality. NRT is bullshit.