Greetings

[Thumblewort]

Dustin, I came to this site March 4 looking for a magical way to be quit, as if these fine quitters could whisk away my fear and pain of quitting. There is no easy way to be quit, after 100+ days I still need the support I get here, and posting roll is where I start. Quitting dip is one of the hardest things I have done in my 45 years, but also worth every headache and crave I had, and will have going forward. I hope you can re-focus and stay quit this time, get some phone numbers and use them. This is your life we are discussing, this shit will kill you.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

DJ,
I myself didn't embrace the system. I came in here posted roll, did the minimums and got the fuck out. My opinion was that KTC was filled with keyboard cowboys that were great at typing their mind. I didn't need that bullshit when I was in the fog. However, I finally walked from the fog and started reading not only the posts from others but even my own BS.

That is when I learned that embracing the system here was not the goal but rather posting roll, understanding that was a promise to myself and others. Get to meet other quitters, make a net of accountability, so I have many people ready to support me when I need it. I even started meeting quitters face to face, talk about making shit real then. I will put it to you like I do my kids, if you help out around here from time to time your parents (KTC Admins  Mods) don't have to do all the work; work stresses people out and you will not like a bunch of stressed, quitters.

I dare you to commit yourself this time, do more than the minimum of posting roll. Read your original intro and see the arrogance and douchiness that exudes from that post. I am willing to bet that is not the real DJ but rather a false DJ typed by nicotine addiction.

Do it or do not, this is all on you. We are here to support you but without your own commitment you are doomed to a life of addiction until that addiction decides to finish or mutilate your body.

The choice is yours,

P

Will do. I would agree with the notion that my douchiness is a mask. I dipped whenever I was alone, so the other 90% of the day that I'm around people I was anxious to get away and get a nic fix. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that my addiction to nicotine and my social anxiety are connected. I have headaches constantly. I went to a c-store today and the clerk motioned behind him to the dip case.I politely turned it down and told him that I quit. He said that was great, and that he would not sell me any even if it was my dying wish. I thanked him and he said that he quit smoking cold turkey after smoking a carton a day for 15 years. He recommended the local Nicotine Anonymous and gave me the number, so I'm going to pay a visit next time they have a meeting.

Read this: http://web-profile.com.ua/wp-content/up ... moking.pdf

And this: http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html

[dustinjackson]

DJ,
I myself didn't embrace the system. I came in here posted roll, did the minimums and got the fuck out. My opinion was that KTC was filled with keyboard cowboys that were great at typing their mind. I didn't need that bullshit when I was in the fog. However, I finally walked from the fog and started reading not only the posts from others but even my own BS.

That is when I learned that embracing the system here was not the goal but rather posting roll, understanding that was a promise to myself and others. Get to meet other quitters, make a net of accountability, so I have many people ready to support me when I need it. I even started meeting quitters face to face, talk about making shit real then. I will put it to you like I do my kids, if you help out around here from time to time your parents (KTC Admins  Mods) don't have to do all the work; work stresses people out and you will not like a bunch of stressed, quitters.

I dare you to commit yourself this time, do more than the minimum of posting roll. Read your original intro and see the arrogance and douchiness that exudes from that post. I am willing to bet that is not the real DJ but rather a false DJ typed by nicotine addiction.

Do it or do not, this is all on you. We are here to support you but without your own commitment you are doomed to a life of addiction until that addiction decides to finish or mutilate your body.

The choice is yours,

P

Will do. I would agree with the notion that my douchiness is a mask. I dipped whenever I was alone, so the other 90% of the day that I'm around people I was anxious to get away and get a nic fix. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that my addiction to nicotine and my social anxiety are connected. I have headaches constantly. I went to a c-store today and the clerk motioned behind him to the dip case.I politely turned it down and told him that I quit. He said that was great, and that he would not sell me any even if it was my dying wish. I thanked him and he said that he quit smoking cold turkey after smoking a carton a day for 15 years. He recommended the local Nicotine Anonymous and gave me the number, so I'm going to pay a visit next time they have a meeting.

[Pinched]

DJ,
I myself didn't embrace the system. I came in here posted roll, did the minimums and got the fuck out. My opinion was that KTC was filled with keyboard cowboys that were great at typing their mind. I didn't need that bullshit when I was in the fog. However, I finally walked from the fog and started reading not only the posts from others but even my own BS.

That is when I learned that embracing the system here was not the goal but rather posting roll, understanding that was a promise to myself and others. Get to meet other quitters, make a net of accountability, so I have many people ready to support me when I need it. I even started meeting quitters face to face, talk about making shit real then. I will put it to you like I do my kids, if you help out around here from time to time your parents (KTC Admins  Mods) don't have to do all the work; work stresses people out and you will not like a bunch of stressed, quitters.

I dare you to commit yourself this time, do more than the minimum of posting roll. Read your original intro and see the arrogance and douchiness that exudes from that post. I am willing to bet that is not the real DJ but rather a false DJ typed by nicotine addiction.

Do it or do not, this is all on you. We are here to support you but without your own commitment you are doomed to a life of addiction until that addiction decides to finish or mutilate your body.

The choice is yours,

P

[basshaug]

You say you never embraced this system, yet you didn't include following the system (posting roll daily, in the AM, getting involved, etc) in your answer to #3. As for #2, you also didn't post roll Sunday after doing so first thing the two days before. You gave yourself an out, you had doubts, then you gave yourself an out, then you caved.

Quit hoping and do. I'd revise answer 3 a bit before you post your answers in October, you did come in on their last day and take a shit and walked away. They deserve an explanation.

[dustinjackson]

Also, I know that my word doesn't mean shit since I broke a promise. I sincerely apologize for disrespecting you all, but I hope in time that I will earn it.

[dustinjackson]

After 3 days, I caved. I went out and purchased a tin, took one dip, then 5 minutes later I threw it away. I felt guilty and ashamed, so I didn't immediately come forward.

Why did it happen? I gave in to the crave. I was doing alright for the first two days, but was plagued by doubt. Sadly, I made the mistake of making the wrong choice when I should have texted someone and asked for help. In the end, it all came down to not honoring a commitment and feeling ashamed to admit weakness to myself and others. Pride was also a factor. I didn't fully take into account that I needed to approach this humbly and receptively.

What would I do differently? I would be absolutely forthcoming and receptive to any advice and help others are willing to give me. Being humble. Pride and arrogance are my worst traits, and I need to focus on approaching things from a more receptive standpoint. Others saw it right away, given the selfish nature of my initial intro. However, I see the mistake in that, and I need to do things differently. I'm really not a douchey kind of guy, but I armor myself emotionally. That needs to end right now. Also, I need to grow a backbone and learn to accept change in myself. I gave up drinking and drug use in the past, so why am I so stubborn when it comes to nicotine? My best guess is that I've used nicotine as a crutch when I should have learned to walk on my own two feet.

To rehash on what I would go through to achieve this quit, I would do whatever it takes. Sleepless nights, withdrawals, and rewiring my brain to adjust to new habits. I've put off things that would be more beneficial to my overall health (getting active, learning new things and hobbies, etc.), so I wil need to reconfigure the time I used while sitting around with a dip in my mouth by taking up new things to fill that time. I'll always have the urge to use tobacco, as nicotine addiction is sempiternal. When dealing with withdrawals, I just need to accept the fact that I'm going to have a hard time and better prepare myself. Right now, I'm on here and dealing with a headache, but I have some sugar free candy and water handy for whenever the urge to dip strikes. I also have a couple of phone numbers on hand for whenever I need to contact someone.

[AppleJack]

I caved because I just didn't take it seriously.

I wouldn't turn to religion or asceticism.

I wouldn't have bothered with wasting anyone's time.

You wanna move forward?

These answers are complete crap.
Dig deep and do better.

1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again?

[dustinjackson]

I'm quit, but I cannot post roll. You all assume that I am actively using again. It was one single occurence. If I have to stick around and be bullied by you people just to prove something, then I'd rather do it alone. I've overcome a lot of things on my own. This has been the hardest, but I'll keep at it until I succeed. I just don't know how to on my own.

First of all nobody is bullying you. You fucking chose to come on here and you chose to "quit." Hell two fucking days ago you posted "quitting is the best feeling in the world." From what I could tell, you aren't a total dipshit, so I won't treat you like one unless you continue to prove it is warranted.

You know what is/was expected of you on this site. It's posting roll every fucking day that you wouldn't use nicotine one day at a time. You chose to not post roll Sunday morning, then you chose to cave.

Now it's pretty fucking simple, you either want to quit or you don't. This place is for people who want to quit. If you want to quit answer the questions and get to quitting. Nobody is going to quit for you and nobody is going to coddle your balls and tell you it's OK, get em next time. That shit is for Lite

This has gone on long enough. Now can I please resume posting roll starting at day one, or am I blackballed from doing so? I'm willing to move forward with my quit if you all are still willing to accept me. If not, I'm moving forward on my own. Either way, I'm going to do my best to keep from dipping.

[Doc2quit4good]

Learn something here folks..... It takes a lot to make this commitment to quit. You can't come in here with an agenda. You just have to want to be quit. Save your quits first of all, then go try to help guys like this..... Then if you can't, go protect your quits again and stand with your quit bros in your group that deserve your attention... Celebrate being quit!!!

[lighty7]

I'm quit, but I cannot post roll.

I think this sums it up. I don't give a shit what the reason is. Me - I post roll every day and I'm quit and caving is not even an option.

Maybe it will work out for you but you obviously don't get it and I've wasted enough time/keystrokes.

[basshaug]

I'm quit, but I cannot post roll. You all assume that I am actively using again. It was one single occurence. If I have to stick around and be bullied by you people just to prove something, then I'd rather do it alone. I've overcome a lot of things on my own. This has been the hardest, but I'll keep at it until I succeed. I just don't know how to on my own.

First of all nobody is bullying you. You fucking chose to come on here and you chose to "quit." Hell two fucking days ago you posted "quitting is the best feeling in the world." From what I could tell, you aren't a total dipshit, so I won't treat you like one unless you continue to prove it is warranted.

You know what is/was expected of you on this site. It's posting roll every fucking day that you wouldn't use nicotine one day at a time. You chose to not post roll Sunday morning, then you chose to cave.

Now it's pretty fucking simple, you either want to quit or you don't. This place is for people who want to quit. If you want to quit answer the questions and get to quitting. Nobody is going to quit for you and nobody is going to coddle your balls and tell you it's OK, get em next time. That shit is for Lite

[dustinjackson]

I'm quit, but I cannot post roll. You all assume that I am actively using again. It was one single occurence. If I have to stick around and be bullied by you people just to prove something, then I'd rather do it alone. I've overcome a lot of things on my own. This has been the hardest, but I'll keep at it until I succeed. I just don't know how to on my own.

[basshaug]

I just read this intro for the first time and I wish I never did in the first place. What a hot mess of a wannabe quitter. From epic douche to revelation light going off to epic fail of a cave. You know what this is to me...a waste of time. A waste of time for you and everyone who responded to your initial douchebaggery and subsequent revelation. Why continue wasting your time and ours. Clearly this really isn't all that important to you. I've called out newbies and quitters for bullshit and have been gracious when they make me eat my words...why? Because at the end of the day they were badass quitters and the quit was Trump to everything else. I don't see you being one of these people and I'm not going to waste my time waiting to see if you are. Prove me wrong.

Already tried that, but the physical withdrawal was just too much for him. That tells me he doesn't have the balls to quit. He is blaming it on "not taking it seriously" because he is too big of a pussy to just grow the fuck up and deal with being slightly uncomfortable for a few days. Let's see how uncomfortable chemo and surgery to remove part of your jaw/tongue makes you.

Quit or fuck off. No asceticism required, just not being a bitch.

[Steakbomb18]

I just read this intro for the first time and I wish I never did in the first place. What a hot mess of a wannabe quitter. From epic douche to revelation light going off to epic fail of a cave. You know what this is to me...a waste of time. A waste of time for you and everyone who responded to your initial douchebaggery and subsequent revelation. Why continue wasting your time and ours. Clearly this really isn't all that important to you. I've called out newbies and quitters for bullshit and have been gracious when they make me eat my words...why? Because at the end of the day they were badass quitters and the quit was Trump to everything else. I don't see you being one of these people and I'm not going to waste my time waiting to see if you are. Prove me wrong.