Closet Dipper 20+ years

[gatorade]

That sounds like things I used to do for sure. As much Kodiak as I could put in the suitcase and extra in the carry on. Never again is right!

[Thumblewort]

Day 32 and 33, living hell, internal body pain like it was day 1 all over again, pushed thru and day 34 and 35 have been great days. Such a rollercoaster when you think all is good and then out of nowhere it just hits you.

Yes, the nic bitch is strong! Way to fight through it! I just went on my 2nd major vacation since I quit, and the freedom of not hiding a roll of 10 cans in the suitcase from my wife is wonderful! I actually spent $25 on a cab at Disney to buy a can in 2008 because I ran out, lied to my wife that i was getting something else. Never again!

[gatorade]

Day 32 and 33, living hell, internal body pain like it was day 1 all over again, pushed thru and day 34 and 35 have been great days. Such a rollercoaster when you think all is good and then out of nowhere it just hits you.

[gatorade]

Thanks all, day 14 and it has been a good day without the nic.

[Idaho Spuds]

^^^ great advice from quitters who are doing it right.
I will add, replace it with something positive, exercise, reading, hobby, spending time with your kids.
There are a lot of physiological factors in quitting, I had really bad anxiety and depression. be open with your wife and you can't control the past only the present and future.
Idaho Spuds 1157 days free

[Skoal Crusher]

Gatorade - Congrats on your decision to quit, you have found the right place. Your story sounds familiar, a lot of ninja (closet) dippers around here that did the same deceitful stuff you did just to hide your addiction from others. I am on day 38 myself so not much further along than you but trust me when I say that it gets a little better everyday.

[Dundippin]

gatorade, welcome to the quit.

I can totally relate. In fact, I would never travel over seas for that reason.

Further, I hated to go to family parties because if I went more than 2 hours without a dip I would go beserk. I had to sneak away and get something from my car or go the bathroom for extended periods.

Had to bring a toothbrush or an apple to clean my teeth afterwards. I was a whole mouth dipper, not just in the lower gum.

I was a 2 can a day dipper for 40 years and I finally did it. Looks like you did as well.

The main way to be successful is to just decide that you have quit. Once you stop the negotiating in your head as to whether you will do one more or not the rest becomes far more simple.

Next, you will learn to distract your attention from your desire for a dip to anything else that interests you. This ability to change your focus will guarantee your success and make your quit that much easier.

When you place a dip in your mouth, your brain releases sugars. Well, those sugars are now going to be gone.

However, you can replace them with OJ or other fruit juices with sugar. This will provide some comfort, especially in your initial quit days.

Make sure to exercise with weights and cardio when you feel that nagging tension in your muscles, you feel that rage, when you can not sleep and when you can not focus. Exercise really helps.

Here is one that most people overlook. Get at least 3 square meals a day. Hunger can really bring on those urges so squash those urges before they come. Eat full healthy meals and do not let yourself get excessively hungry. You will see this helps a great deal.

I waited until I was 59 quit after using tobacco for 40 years. You are wise to quit now.

I quit with you today. Dundippin day 746.

[Quittolive]

Nice job on 13 days, for the next ?? days your quit has to be more important than anything\anyone in your life, because everything\everyone is worth you breaking this addiction. Nothing easy about quitting nicotine, but just quit today!! Don't worry about tomorrow, it will still be there tomorrow with all the same ups\and downs it had today. Day 737 today for me, not bragging just showing it can be done from a fellow ninja dipper of over 30 years. Drink the KTC cool-aid, make your promise early everyday and repeat!! Reach out on here (chat),your group, etc.. Get some numbers for the rough times when the nic bitch comes hard (because its not if, its when?) PM me for digits, I quit with YOU today SiR!!

[gatorade]

Been dipping Kodiak since college, stopped for awhile but when I hit my late 20's and early 30's it was non-stop. If I am awake and not eating or at work Kodiak was in my lip. My wife calls my can of Kodiak, my mistress. The thing is there are very few people in my life that know I was dipping. I would go thru 3 cans a day because if I had to get out of the car, go in a store, anything in public I would take it out of my lip. Moment I got back in the car, more Kodiak. Daily routine, Kodiak when I wake up, brush my teeth, go to work, Kodiak on the way to work, sunflower seeds and Monster Energy drinks all day long. Day 30 of quitting Monster (was having all kinds of health issues like a creepy, crawling feeling inside and when I quit my 3-4 monsters a day habit to zero that went away) Lunch time I would go park somewhere and spend my hour lunch alone, 10 minutes eating and 50 minutes with dip and watching videos on my iPhone.

I have spend most of my life wasted and not doing things because I didn't want to be without my dip. My family knows I dip, the wife complains if it's on the floor and has asked me to quit for awhile. I just ignored it. Pain in my gums, hopefully it goes away if I move it around. I have no friends. The reason is anytime someone asks me to do something I would come up with an excuse. Didn't want to hear anyone tell me what a dirty and disgusting habit it was. I already knew it and didn't want to hear it. Oh and the bad breath from dipping. Who wants to talk to you when you are spitting and your mouth stinks? I kept reading posts here but didn't join. I quit for 2 weeks cold turkey and where I am at only 1 store, yes only 1 and no where else even remotely close has dip ran out of Smokey Mountain Mint and Wintergreen. All they had left was straight and classic which to me are just horrible. So I made an excuse to buy Kodiak again. Worse part is they put the fake stuff right next to all the real stuff. I have to stare at the 5 pack rolls of Kodiak while grabbing the Rocky Mountain fake stuff. Told myself just one can while I wait for the fake stuff in the mail. Well when that nicotine rush hit me I thought why did I quit. After the 3rd dip, my gums hurt. That is when I knew I need to start over and this time join this page and just talk about everything I have gone thru.

Hopefully my story will help others understand not only are you hurting yourself, but really hurting the people around you. I travel internationally now and where I go doesn't have Kodiak. So what is the first thing I pack for vacation, you guessed it and I need to make sure I don't run out. If you really want to quit just move to another country that doesn't have it :) Depression for me was when I had to use Grizzly because my one store ran out of Kodiak. I actually went on a vacation with my family to meet my parents and sisters and spent more time avoiding my parents and sisters and just spending time with my wife and kids because I needed a dip and didn't want them to know. One vacation I used the patch only to get through the day with other family members and then when it was night time, ripped off the patch and had my Kodiak.

Well I joined the group, I am on day 13 with the horrible fake stuff straight Rocky Mountain in my mouth as I type this. One lesson I learned is when you quit and go thru the first 3 days of hell (the fog) and it was REALLY bad for me, then you cheat and start over, now you have to go thru the fog again and boy does that suck. This time it was a 2 day fog hell and I was doing fine and then day 10 hit. OMG, it was a bad day. Nothing bad happened it was a normal day but I had this feeling in the front of my head like I just wanted to start crying for no reason what so ever. The depression and anxiety were so bad and my wife wanted me to go here and there and even when I tell her, look I am having a REALLY bad day she doesn't understand what I am going thru. I buried my head in the pillow and when to sleep at 6pm. Next day, I was fine and things were back to normal. I owe my family big time putting up with me for those first 3 days because I was just mean and cranky. There have been days I get mad at the kids for no reason and my thinking is irrational and later that night I start thinking why did I act like that it made no sense. Before I quit I told them look I might be mean and a complete ass but I don't mean it and I am trying to fight an addiction that is a bitch to quit. I'm done for now and going to spend time with the family dip free and look forward to day 14 and getting away from the oral fixation some day in the future.