Miloh Intro

[jzzyzag01]

Miloh Update,


Well its day 88. Just thought I summarize the nerve ride for others that maybe experience the same thing.

'Crazy' Days 1-3: Numb elbows to fingertips. Bad nerves like limbs asleep. Arms feel like they are going to fly off my body. The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy. Have to jump up and down at work and shake arms/hands.

:wacko: Days 4-11: Cravings, irritability, cant concentrate, headache, nerves in arms (very creepy feelings in arms)

'help' Sometime around day 50: Have hot spots on balls of feet. Legs painfull and numb at same time. Running makes them feel a little better, but harder to stay motivated. Feeling of the pain is like when blood flow comes back after a limb falling asleep. Very creepy like it was in my arms. Have to jump/twitch legs to keep from going crazy. Worse in my right leg. Still have off/on brain fog. Went to doctor and was given low dose of the nerve blocker Gabapentin. Low dose helps some but dont like that it makes me tired and doesnt address root cause.

'bang head' Day 80: Have reduced gabapentin dose slowly back down to zero (cause I hate it). Hand numbness/pain slowly coming back. Have the creepy feeling in arms/hands/legs/feet off/on (mostly on) all day every day, but not as intense as the earlier days. Just part of the body learning to live without nicotine or something more serious?

:o Day 88: Started 1 Gabapentin a day again because feet/hand nerves still a little too creepy for me. Off to doctor tomorrow for some bloodwork. Will update if they find anything. Brain fog still there, maybe some dizzyness. Low key, but hard to concentrate. Nerves always feel the best when I first wake up, then slowly get worse throughout the day. Sitting at computer or driving is the worse. Throughout all of this though I have been sleeping like a baby. Get 8-9 hours straight every night. This is some fun stuff !!

Never heard this one before Miloh, but I will tell you one thing: Nic can't make it any better. Even if the two are somehow shown to be related, wouldn't you rather have your arms flying off your body than no tongue? How about tingling instead of a feeding tube? How about the fog instead of 6 feet under?

I'm not trying to be overly simplistic or to diminish what sounds like a tough condition you're going through. All I'm saying is nic won't make it any better. Period. I quit with you today and thoughts and prayers with you tomorrow at the doc.

[Miloh]

Miloh Update,


Well its day 88. Just thought I summarize the nerve ride for others that maybe experience the same thing.

'Crazy' Days 1-3: Numb elbows to fingertips. Bad nerves like limbs asleep. Arms feel like they are going to fly off my body. The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy. Have to jump up and down at work and shake arms/hands.

:wacko: Days 4-11: Cravings, irritability, cant concentrate, headache, nerves in arms (very creepy feelings in arms)

'help' Sometime around day 50: Have hot spots on balls of feet. Legs painfull and numb at same time. Running makes them feel a little better, but harder to stay motivated. Feeling of the pain is like when blood flow comes back after a limb falling asleep. Very creepy like it was in my arms. Have to jump/twitch legs to keep from going crazy. Worse in my right leg. Still have off/on brain fog. Went to doctor and was given low dose of the nerve blocker Gabapentin. Low dose helps some but dont like that it makes me tired and doesnt address root cause.

'bang head' Day 80: Have reduced gabapentin dose slowly back down to zero (cause I hate it). Hand numbness/pain slowly coming back. Have the creepy feeling in arms/hands/legs/feet off/on (mostly on) all day every day, but not as intense as the earlier days. Just part of the body learning to live without nicotine or something more serious?

:o Day 88: Started 1 Gabapentin a day again because feet/hand nerves still a little too creepy for me. Off to doctor tomorrow for some bloodwork. Will update if they find anything. Brain fog still there, maybe some dizzyness. Low key, but hard to concentrate. Nerves always feel the best when I first wake up, then slowly get worse throughout the day. Sitting at computer or driving is the worse. Throughout all of this though I have been sleeping like a baby. Get 8-9 hours straight every night. This is some fun stuff !!

[Dougie]

I think a common mistake we all made, or are making, early in our quits is not eating enough corn nuts.  How many corn nuts should a person eat?  Trick question, I say.  More is better when it comes to corn nuts.

Can't get enough corn nuts!

MMM NUTS

[Mike from AB]

I think a common mistake we all made, or are making, early in our quits is not eating enough corn nuts. How many corn nuts should a person eat? Trick question, I say. More is better when it comes to corn nuts.

Can't get enough corn nuts!

[Mike from AB]

I'm 47 and have been dipping since I was around 14. Every time I try and quit, dipping is so much a part of me that I really struggle. I quit for about a two year period when I was 35, but other than that it has been dip during all waking hours. Most of the time it was Cope, Skoal, Kodiak, but recently it was pouches, which seamed to help my throat a lot, but not the other issues from the nicotine.

I read a lot about nicotine levels and started to use Skoal Bandits, which was a smaller amount of nicotine and for me it was the best of both worlds. I had some chew satisfaction, and health wise I still felt a lot better. Problem is, Bandits are not popular, and few places carry them. I then thought, no problem, I'll just order online, but then found out about the recent restrictions in 2010 law making it a lot harder. So everytime I would run out of Bandits, I would buy stronger pouches, and BAMMMM full fledged addiction again and then have to repeat the whole $*#$# thing again.

About a month ago I quit dip coming back from a fishing trip cold turkey in the car. I made it to day 19, but then caved, because I was starting to do some things with my life that I didnt think would be good for me. Well after 2 days of pouches, BAAAMMMM full fledged addiction again.

Well I found the killthecan site and started reading, because I really want to quit, and found the description of what the first 100 days look like and it was helpful for me to see that others go through the HORRIBLE feelings that I go through when I try and quit. This is no doubt the hardest thing I have done, failed to do, and am trying again to do.

Now I am on re-do day #2 and my arms feel like they are going to fly off my body. The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy. I know a couple more days and it will be ok, but this feeling is the worst and just needed a quick vent.

Anyway, looks like a good site and glad I found it. I think it will help me stay sane.

Miloh

Congrats on making it to day #2! I can't say I ever really got onto bandits, I was always a Cope guy, but I "limited" myself. I was in control of it  never ingested any more than I absolutely had to of course. Which meant I never had to try quitting...

Believe me yes we all go through this horrible track, some moreso than others,  every guy will experience it a little differently. But we all get through it together ODAAT. The nerves feeling like your joints are numb/tingling isn't fun for sure so yeah come on here  vent if you need to.

[Bean]

I think a common mistake we all made, or are making, early in our quits is not eating enough corn nuts. How many corn nuts should a person eat? Trick question, I say. More is better when it comes to corn nuts.

[ParadigmDawg]

"I know a couple more days and it will be ok"

I want you to look at this statement you made and then realize that this is likely a false security.

Sure, nicotine takes about 72 hours to leave you body but guess what....your body is use to living on nicotine so it is about to fight you and fight you hard.

I am not trying to scare you or make things sound too hard to do, I just want you to be geared up and prepared.

The next 50-100 days are going to be difficult and you will have many bad days and a few good days. Use those good days to recharge your batteries and prepare for the next round of the fight. Quit one hour at a time, if that's too difficult, quit for one minute at a time.

When you think about it 100 days isn't very long but it can seem like forever when you are in the middle of it. You can do this and I will stand right beside you while you do it.

I need you to be successful so I know that I can stay successful in my quit.

Let's kick this nasty little thing together.

[Reaper]

Hang in there no matter how tough it gets there are people in here that will carry you through this just let them know and they will help. You can do this and i am proud to be quitting with you. let me know if i can help in any way.

[Punkin]

Ok, thanks everybody!

I posted quit today. Posted it slightly wrong, but I see what I did.

Arms feel a little better than they did an hour ago.

Been eating corn nuts, pringles, beef jerkey, corn nuts, corn nuts, corn nuts.

Have you been eating corn nuts? Lol

[Miloh]

Ok, thanks everybody!

I posted quit today. Posted it slightly wrong, but I see what I did.

Arms feel a little better than they did an hour ago.

Been eating corn nuts, pringles, beef jerkey, corn nuts, corn nuts, corn nuts.

[Punkin]

I can't say anything that these guys haven't said already but I will say welcome to the NIC KILLERS. Post roll early everyday and keep that promise everyday. Your word is your bond here and there are lots of quitters here who pledge to quit with you. I'll be sending you a PM with my number so be checking your inbox. Welcome aboard!

[Bean]

Congrats on a great choice, Miloh. Not much to add because Slim and 30 have you headed in the right direction...posting roll and staying quit. But I did have a couple of other thoughts...

Read everything you can about addiction (also in the Welcome Center). Read other intros, HoF's, and other entries. YOU can do this...YOU just don't know it yet.

Skoal Bandits...really? Think about it. The life of an addict is about lying, self-deceit, rationalizing, excuse-making, etc. The first person an addict fools is his/herself. Ex: I actually considered myself a "light dipper"...as if that were a lesser form of addiction and, therefore, not quite as bad. And, I actually believed that...and it makes me want to cringe. 'Crazy'

Skoal Bandits is just putting a smaller caliber gun to your temple. The more you read and understand more addiction, the more "Holy Shit, I used to say that too" moments you will come across. Embrace those moments.

One thing that used to defeat all of my previous "attempts" was being overwhelmed by the idea of "quitting forever." Like you said, it was part of me. What helped me was understanding that NOBODY expects you to quit forever here. Quitting forever is hard...too hard, really. In fact, it is so hard to do that we don't do that. We just quit each day. You can make it one day, right? Well that is all you have to do...give your word that come Hell or high water you won't dip today, then keep your word. Drink water, exercise, mints, chat room, phone-a-friend...whatever. But keep your word like your life depends upon it...because it does. Then, wake up the next day and do it again.

YOU CAN DO THIS, BROTHER!!!

[30isEnuff]

I'm 47 and have been dipping since I was around 14.    Every time I try and quit, dipping is so much a part of me that I really struggle.  I quit for about a two year period when I was 35, but other than that it has been dip during all waking hours.      Most of the time it was Cope, Skoal, Kodiak, but recently it was pouches, which seamed to help my throat a lot, but not the other issues from the nicotine.   

I read a lot about nicotine levels and started to use Skoal Bandits, which was a smaller amount of nicotine and for me it was the best of both worlds.  I had some chew satisfaction, and health wise I still felt a lot better.  Problem is, Bandits are not popular, and few places carry them.  I then thought, no problem, I'll just order online, but then found out about the recent restrictions in 2010 law making it a lot harder.    So everytime I would run out of Bandits, I would buy stronger pouches, and BAMMMM full fledged addiction again and then have to repeat the whole $*#$# thing again.

About a month ago I quit dip coming back from a fishing trip cold turkey in the car.  I made it to day 19, but then caved, because I was starting to do some things with my life that I didnt think would be good for me.  Well after 2 days of pouches, BAAAMMMM full fledged addiction again.

Well I found the killthecan site and started reading, because I really want to quit, and found the description of what the first 100 days look like and it was helpful for me to see that others go through the HORRIBLE feelings that I go through when I try and quit.  This is no doubt the hardest thing I have done, failed to do, and am trying again to do.   

Now I am on re-do day #2 and my arms feel like they are going to fly off my body.    The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy.  I know a couple more days and it will be ok, but this feeling is the worst and just needed a quick vent.

Anyway, looks like a good site and glad I found it.  I think it will help me stay sane.   

Miloh

Welcome. You have a quitters drive. Now, get involved here, and you will have the tools to get this done.
First thing: go to that pink Welcome Center button to the top left. Read everything there. Pay particular attention to how and why we post roll. That is the foundation of everything. It is your commitment to us and yourself that you will not use nicotine today.
Go to Pre HOF January 2014 and post roll.

Let's clear up one thing. DOn't try to quit. That leaves a way out. Just quit. You are quit, post roll promising to stay quit today. Then, Tomorrow, wake up and post again.

One day at a time. You can do this.
I chose to quit today too, I have made that choice 117 times, and life it soo much better.

Welcome Brother!
Listen to Slim cause he'll steer you to quit!
Cheers.

[CaliforniaSlim]

I'm 47 and have been dipping since I was around 14. Every time I try and quit, dipping is so much a part of me that I really struggle. I quit for about a two year period when I was 35, but other than that it has been dip during all waking hours. Most of the time it was Cope, Skoal, Kodiak, but recently it was pouches, which seamed to help my throat a lot, but not the other issues from the nicotine.

I read a lot about nicotine levels and started to use Skoal Bandits, which was a smaller amount of nicotine and for me it was the best of both worlds. I had some chew satisfaction, and health wise I still felt a lot better. Problem is, Bandits are not popular, and few places carry them. I then thought, no problem, I'll just order online, but then found out about the recent restrictions in 2010 law making it a lot harder. So everytime I would run out of Bandits, I would buy stronger pouches, and BAMMMM full fledged addiction again and then have to repeat the whole $*#$# thing again.

About a month ago I quit dip coming back from a fishing trip cold turkey in the car. I made it to day 19, but then caved, because I was starting to do some things with my life that I didnt think would be good for me. Well after 2 days of pouches, BAAAMMMM full fledged addiction again.

Well I found the killthecan site and started reading, because I really want to quit, and found the description of what the first 100 days look like and it was helpful for me to see that others go through the HORRIBLE feelings that I go through when I try and quit. This is no doubt the hardest thing I have done, failed to do, and am trying again to do.

Now I am on re-do day #2 and my arms feel like they are going to fly off my body. The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy. I know a couple more days and it will be ok, but this feeling is the worst and just needed a quick vent.

Anyway, looks like a good site and glad I found it. I think it will help me stay sane.

Miloh

Welcome. You have a quitters drive. Now, get involved here, and you will have the tools to get this done.
First thing: go to that pink Welcome Center button to the top left. Read everything there. Pay particular attention to how and why we post roll. That is the foundation of everything. It is your commitment to us and yourself that you will not use nicotine today.
Go to Pre HOF January 2014 and post roll.

Let's clear up one thing. DOn't try to quit. That leaves a way out. Just quit. You are quit, post roll promising to stay quit today. Then, Tomorrow, wake up and post again.

One day at a time. You can do this.
I chose to quit today too, I have made that choice 117 times, and life it soo much better.

[Miloh]

I'm 47 and have been dipping since I was around 14. Every time I try and quit, dipping is so much a part of me that I really struggle. I quit for about a two year period when I was 35, but other than that it has been dip during all waking hours. Most of the time it was Cope, Skoal, Kodiak, but recently it was pouches, which seamed to help my throat a lot, but not the other issues from the nicotine.

I read a lot about nicotine levels and started to use Skoal Bandits, which was a smaller amount of nicotine and for me it was the best of both worlds. I had some chew satisfaction, and health wise I still felt a lot better. Problem is, Bandits are not popular, and few places carry them. I then thought, no problem, I'll just order online, but then found out about the recent restrictions in 2010 law making it a lot harder. So everytime I would run out of Bandits, I would buy stronger pouches, and BAMMMM full fledged addiction again and then have to repeat the whole $*#$# thing again.

About a month ago I quit dip coming back from a fishing trip cold turkey in the car. I made it to day 19, but then caved, because I was starting to do some things with my life that I didnt think would be good for me. Well after 2 days of pouches, BAAAMMMM full fledged addiction again.

Well I found the killthecan site and started reading, because I really want to quit, and found the description of what the first 100 days look like and it was helpful for me to see that others go through the HORRIBLE feelings that I go through when I try and quit. This is no doubt the hardest thing I have done, failed to do, and am trying again to do.

Now I am on re-do day #2 and my arms feel like they are going to fly off my body. The feeling of the nerves from my elbows to my fingers is about ready to drive me crazy. I know a couple more days and it will be ok, but this feeling is the worst and just needed a quick vent.

Anyway, looks like a good site and glad I found it. I think it will help me stay sane.

Miloh