Howdy folks

[rokbanned]

I appreciate the kind words. I don't mean to be douchy, but sometimes ya gotta try to not be abrasive. It's a rough enough process as I think we all know. I quit for a couple yrs before, this time is much worse. I can tell you with utmost certainty I will not cave in and get any nicotine. I'm still finding cans of chew and nic gum all over my house. I'm sure I will be for years. I truly believe not giving in is the only way to go. I also quit drinking at the same time. I didn't drink alot, but even the occasional sip is done for me for a few months. It's all a combination of what's causing my anxiety I'm sure. I feel like that other dude most of the time, but just holding my son seems to calm me. I sure hope my mouth finishes healing soon. That'll be one weight off my shoulders. I'm sure everyone knows the feeling.... why we started worrying about it after we quit is still the baffling part to me. But I'm surprised I have had a friggin heart attack yet...

[pab1964]

Hey rock, you're going through the same shit that 90 percent of us did. Worrying about your mouth, throat,teeth and hell of the suns gonna shine today? Look at it like this all those year's we stuffed are face with poison, are jaw got sore or our lip got a sore we just put it on the other side till it healed. We didn't worry then, IMO this is a powerful tool the nic bitch uses to make you think if I take a pinch I will relax and be fine. That's bullshit, you know it as well as I do. What I finally did was listen to some of the vet's who listened to some of the vet's before them, relax enjoy your quit, worrying creates all kinds of problems. You're fine, your body is healing. Part of your foggy problems is concentrating if you're gonna live till tomorrow. Guess what, none of us know that answer. Enjoy your days free, one day at a time! Deep breaths really do work. I finally manned up and said wow I feel awesome and I really did! Your mind can play real tricks with your head. You being an engineer you know this! We're all here for you, no one's against you, most guys and gals here would do anything for you! Quit on and enjoy all your freedom, your son will thank you some day. Pm me if you want my number

[worktowin]

The plan here really works. At first, it seems lame... Posting roll... One day at a time... Brotherhood... Accountability....

Anxiety is EXTREMELY common when quitting. Some don't have it. Some have almost crippling issues. If you need some meds to deal with it - get some. Even for a few weeks or months. But, one of the things that we hear so often at KTC is... One day at a time. See, we cannot fix our foolish decisions of yesterday. And we cannot worry about what tomorrow will bring. But we can own today.

If you are worried about sores or pain or whatever in your mouth, you aren't crazy. 2 of my closest contacts on this site - one a materials director for a major oil company and the other a pharmacist - were both utterly certain around day 50 that they had throat cancer. They both ended up paying on their own for various tests to confirm that they were fine. Jlud mentioned that you aren't a "special butterfly" and that we've seen and heard it all here. He is right.

My New Years wish is that you throw that trophy can away.

[Jlud007]

Rok I would suggest you take a deep breath.

Then throw that stupid trophy can away before it becomes a cave can. Find your quit group and try posting roll like you've been asked, this is a brotherhood and part of that is posting roll, our daily promise to each other not to use today. Think about why you find it necessary to explain how committed and bad ass your quit is... show us by posting roll daily and keeping your promise. Put the ego aside and give in to what this site has to offer and you might find something special, your quit self.

Trust us, you're not a special snowflake we have seen guys like you come and go. These guys aren't picking on you, we all found what works here and we expect the same from our brothers. Just go and post roll man... you'll thank us later.

[wastepanel]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'

Rok

I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.

Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.


Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.

DBG

I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.

'trainwreck'

Ahhhh....

The old trophy can.

Toss it man. Post roll. You don't need the stuff. Trust me. There's way more than 19 days quit that can be found here.

[Thumblewort]

4 Pm my time Rok, you gonna post roll? I know a few quitters that can do it solo. I also have seen hundreds of caves...........and THOUSANDS of quits. The quitters post roll and never look back.

[Thumblewort]

You got a rock star band of quitters trying to help you, none who is less than a year quit, but you're gonna do it your way? This is the time for humility and learning. I was an angry quitter as well, but once I got the vemon out of my body I realized that those who quit before knew what they were talking about.

I like your anger, it means you are healing. Bring all you anger here and spew it at us. We have big shoulders, and believe it or not, we want you to quit. We not only hate dipping but hate all of Big Tobacco.

Happy New Year Rok.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'

Rok

I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.

Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.


Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.

DBG

I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.

'trainwreck'

[AppleJack]

I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.

This goes in my top 5 of the dumbassiest things I've ever read on this site.

Dude... you are sooo not ready to quit. Addict speak is flowing out of you like puss.

Would you say it's smart for the quit alcoholic to carry around a flask? Would you say it's safe for a quit heroin addict to carry around some product and paraphernalia? Would you think it's pure brilliance for anyone, with any addiction, to carry around the object of their weakness?

Good grief, man... pull your head out.

[KingNothing]

We had a guy like you in our December group for about a week or so. He swore the trophy can was going to help him quit too.

MikeyMcD Intro

Toss that shit out.

Rok this ^^^ guy is for real. So is Pab, so is Thumblewort, so are AJ and DBG. How many guys do you see on this site glorifying the good old days of cramming cancer in your mouth? How many guys that brag about the can in their pockets to show their bravado in the face of addiction?

Stranger is right, they aren't here. Want to know why? The guys and gals that make it here QLF every damn day. Before you can beat your addiction, you have to give into the addiction. See, no matter how bad ass you feel with that can in your pocket, you aren't because that can is in your pocket. You are if you stay quit. A lot of guys come in here thumping their chests with how they have it all figured out. It's natural, you're a guy. BUT, until you can look deep down inside you past all the emotional fronting and even further past your addiction, you'll never see what you're trying to recover.

The quitters that are truly successful know what they are trying to recover. They also know why they're trying to recover it, and finally they know that they will do ANYTHING (including listening to what they would likely consider blowhards babbling nonsense) to never go back to those darkest of days. In the words of Elsa, let it go. Until you surrender, you cannot win.

[Stranger999]

We had a guy like you in our December group for about a week or so. He swore the trophy can was going to help him quit too.

MikeyMcD Intro

Toss that shit out.

[rokbanned]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'

Rok

I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.

Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.


Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.

DBG

I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.

[pab1964]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'

What a dumbass statement! Guy's trying to help you ! Good luck assclowns!

[dipbegone]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'

Rok

I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.

Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.


Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.

DBG

[rokbanned]

I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'