I want to be better

[lighty7]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Thank god someone said this. After the first 2 responses to that garbage intro were "Welcom Back Whiggs" I almost threw up and closed the thread. Glad I kept reading AJ.

As for Whiggs - there is a playbook that works. It's your fucking job to find it, not to be coddled and provided links to apologize to your old groups and where to find your "new group".

[DWEIRICK]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

Whiggs 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

Blanket PC disclaimer: everyone deserves to be quit. I mean that.

That doesn't mean everyone deserves my support or respect. Not by a fucking long shot.


Whiggs, you spent your last ounce of credibility on your second go around here. The way you took a shit on your original group, came back with both middle fingers raised, and then promptly and totally unsurprisingly caved again was the last straw. No such thing as a third chance.

This place doesn't exist to suit you. I don't care what your answers to the 3 questions would be this time around. You could type the holy scripture and I'd just as soon line a birdcage with it.

Even if there was a path back for you here, I don't think you're even remotely close to seeing it. You're sick of being an addict? So what? That hasn't stopped you from going right back to the shit after a few days or weeks of convincing yourself otherwise.

'Popcorn'

He don't have the balls to come in here and face the music. I agree AppleJack, it's gotten softer around here. Has he even been approached with the 3 questions? Time to man up or GTFO if he hasn't.

I myself guard my quit every damn day. I post daily and I keep my fucking promise. That's how this works. I don't half ass it and feel like oh well I didn't post roll so fuck it. Even if I was to miss roll, which I haven't in 602 consecutive days, my word is still there with my brothers and sister in June 14 as well as the rest who give a shit about being quit.

Your fucking problem is you don't give a rats ass about being quit. This is not a try try again program.

Anyone who says "This shit is easy" and turns out to be a serial caver needs to have their ass handed to them. Softness has no place here so get in here take the beating and man up this time for once make it the last time you quit...

'B.S.'

[Raider]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

Whiggs 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

Blanket PC disclaimer: everyone deserves to be quit. I mean that.

That doesn't mean everyone deserves my support or respect. Not by a fucking long shot.


Whiggs, you spent your last ounce of credibility on your second go around here. The way you took a shit on your original group, came back with both middle fingers raised, and then promptly and totally unsurprisingly caved again was the last straw. No such thing as a third chance.

This place doesn't exist to suit you. I don't care what your answers to the 3 questions would be this time around. You could type the holy scripture and I'd just as soon line a birdcage with it.

Even if there was a path back for you here, I don't think you're even remotely close to seeing it. You're sick of being an addict? So what? That hasn't stopped you from going right back to the shit after a few days or weeks of convincing yourself otherwise.

'Popcorn'

He don't have the balls to come in here and face the music. I agree AppleJack, it's gotten softer around here. Has he even been approached with the 3 questions? Time to man up or GTFO if he hasn't.

I myself guard my quit every damn day. I post daily and I keep my fucking promise. That's how this works. I don't half ass it and feel like oh well I didn't post roll so fuck it. Even if I was to miss roll, which I haven't in 602 consecutive days, my word is still there with my brothers and sister in June 14 as well as the rest who give a shit about being quit.

Your fucking problem is you don't give a rats ass about being quit. This is not a try try again program.

[Its_Got2Happen]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

Whiggs 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

Blanket PC disclaimer: everyone deserves to be quit. I mean that.

That doesn't mean everyone deserves my support or respect. Not by a fucking long shot.


Whiggs, you spent your last ounce of credibility on your second go around here. The way you took a shit on your original group, came back with both middle fingers raised, and then promptly and totally unsurprisingly caved again was the last straw. No such thing as a third chance.

This place doesn't exist to suit you. I don't care what your answers to the 3 questions would be this time around. You could type the holy scripture and I'd just as soon line a birdcage with it.

Even if there was a path back for you here, I don't think you're even remotely close to seeing it. You're sick of being an addict? So what? That hasn't stopped you from going right back to the shit after a few days or weeks of convincing yourself otherwise.

'Popcorn'

[Its_Got2Happen]

'Popcorn'

[Tuco]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

Whiggs 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

Blanket PC disclaimer: everyone deserves to be quit. I mean that.

That doesn't mean everyone deserves my support or respect. Not by a fucking long shot.


Whiggs, you spent your last ounce of credibility on your second go around here. The way you took a shit on your original group, came back with both middle fingers raised, and then promptly and totally unsurprisingly caved again was the last straw. No such thing as a third chance.

This place doesn't exist to suit you. I don't care what your answers to the 3 questions would be this time around. You could type the holy scripture and I'd just as soon line a birdcage with it.

Even if there was a path back for you here, I don't think you're even remotely close to seeing it. You're sick of being an addict? So what? That hasn't stopped you from going right back to the shit after a few days or weeks of convincing yourself otherwise.

[Idaho Spuds]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

Whiggs 'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger'

[zam]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

Man, I assumed that I could lay back and be the ass-patting guy after this many days. sigh.

AJ is right. WTF is this BS? Number one, the guy's averaging about 50 posts per failure. That says he isn't putting anything in the kitty, or even bothering to make a bet. He's signed up...that's all. Now he's sitting back waiting for a miracle. And it will be, literally, a miracle if he succeeds doing the same thing that led to failures #1 and #2. I'm sure there is a promise to be more active here. But I'll pause to look at his activity on the boards recently.....there it is....3 posts since his latest day 1. One roll post after 2pm, one early (yeah!), and one post saying how shitty it is to realize you are a slave to nicotine (whaaaaaaat? That's deeeeeep.).

But I'll bite and assume that he's ready to put in some effort here. I'd love to ask him about the language he uses in the initial intro post above. Because, to me, that kind of language is NEVER used by those that are successful here. Did you really enjoy dipping...ever? Did you enjoy giving the playground bully your lunch money? Think about that. Think about the process of nicotine and if you really "enjoy" ingesting nicotine.

[AppleJack]

The fact that you haven't really had your ass handed to you is a testament to how much the climate at KTC has changed over the last few years. There's an edge that I miss. This "hop back on the horse" or "way to man up and give it another try" bullshit is stupid and ineffective.

When I first quit 2+ years ago, you would have been stomped on, chewed up, and spit out. Deservedly. It was hardcore and unforgiving and I loved/needed every part of it and.... agreed with every bit of it. Y'see... I need to be held to a standard higher than my addiction. I don't need a 2nd or 3rd chance because the addict in me knows that's an open door and given the chance... I will dance through that fucker never to be seen again. If I'm not held to a zero failure policy in this quit... I'll be a dead man. I have it in me to quit once. Once. KTC is not a "try and try again" place for a reason. It breeds weakness and we can't afford that here. We don't need that taint.

This is your 3rd go 'round?

You need to be gone. This is not the place for you. I know I'm probably not earning popularity points but... I really don't care. I'm here to Quit and I've steamrolled that for 919 days 100%. Once and done. It's not even about posting roll anymore. It's about me. My integrity. My life. My self respect. My freedom. I earned that here by upholding a standard that was bigger than me. You... keep pissing on it and I'm not cool with that.

At all.

[Thumblewort]

Whiggs-Day 8- This shit is easy

Anyone else hear alarms and whistles..


Whiggs...becareful, when you are comfortable, complacent and think this shit is easy...the nic bitch will strike. ODAAT...clear eyes, full heart, can't lose.

i understand

[Thumblewort]

Did you have an original intro? I looked at some of your posts............Day 8, this shit is easy...........are you gonna change that cockyness? See below.

[chrisTKE1982]

"Last but not least, this train rolls into West Palm Beach, Florida to pick up a former slave of 5 years. Whiggs77 may be a wifeless and kidless, but that didn't stop him from quitting for himself. 100 days ago he gave a big ol' fuck you to the Nic Whore after he tired of craving a poisonous cat turd after a long night of drinking. While he admits posting a daily roll can be annoying as "fuck", but he recognizes the commitment it takes to quit this shit for good and he appreciates the accountability mat and schaff gave him as well as Tarpon being the guy who forced him to sign up."

This was your Introduction when you hit the HOF with us in November last year. Interesting that you find posting roll, which is the foundation of why this place works, annoying as "fuck". Taking a few minutes a day to solidify your quit and quite possibly save your life is annoying as fuck??? You specifically called out accountability from Mat and Schaef, but you didni't think about that when you took that accountability and flushed it down the toilet? You don't have to worry about Schaef anymore, but I can assure you that Mat won't be providing you with any accountability.

So Whiggs, please tell us why anyone should trust you after you've shit on two groups here? Why would anyone from your new group want to throw in with you, when you'll most likely puss out and cave again? I don't even fucking care what your answers to the 3 questions are at this point. You could say anything I won't believe a word of it.

BTW - your old group (November '14) still has 29 guys who go through the annoying as fuck daily grind that is posting roll every fucking day. Most of us are right around the 450 day mark. You could've been too.

[Stranger999]

Hello, I'm going into day 48 here - around half the number of days that you threw away at least once.

I think it is simple. I am here to quit nicotine and I have chosen to do it one day at a time, every damn day. That means no dip, no cigs, no cigars, no patches, no nicotine gum, and we post roll here every day to ensure that none of the above is used. Do whatever you can to keep your promise.

Is that your plan too? Can you do it? Do you have anyone from your former groups or January to help you do it?

If you didn't get support the last two times get it this time. Reach out with PMs. The January 16 D.O.G. group has a lot of great quitters. Make connections and build a support group. Watch someone's back and have someone watch your back. There is no reason for you to wind up in a 4th group here....

[Raider]

Third time around. That there makes you a serial caver. Why the hell should anyone believe it when you say you want to be quit? You have already lied to yourself and others at least two times. What the fuck makes this time different? You have a long way to go to earn anyone's trust here. Prove me wrong.

[fowlmouth]

Welcome back whiggs. You can be better. That stuff never did anything for you.

What happened last time? Why did you let it happen? What are you going to do differently this time?

You've answered these questions before.

You have some extra hurdles to jump then most:

1. Post roll EDD.
2. Answer to the March 2015 group.
3. Answer to the November 2014 group.
4. Answer to the January 2016 group.

You are an addict. You will always be an addict. If you haven't realized that yet, then you'll fail again.

When you wake up tomorrow, I hope you jump back in with both feet: own your addiction, post roll, and answer the questions.

I'm rooting for you.