day 1

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Englishbulldog - My name is Tim. I'm from Camden SC. I drive a Chevy Tahoe. Married with 3 boys 39 yes old, started with Levi garret at about 11 yrs old, at some point went to Kodiak then grizzly wintergreen. So I had about 25 years or so chewing and dipping. I'd like to publicly thank stevemc for his support and punching my name beside his .it was my honor and thanks to the rest of kill the can for their support; also, I will not sign on for 200, but I will check in from time to time. And still use the mountain of info and motivation. Keep on quitting guys. One day at a time.

Congrats Tim, and enjoy today.

[Punkin]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.

Did I miss something here???

Ive been wondering the same thing. Shirking your responsibility to answer the questions is chicken shit. 'pump'

[Minny]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.

Did I miss something here???

[englishbulldog]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.
huge test this past Saturday and I passed with greatness,very proud.thanks to this wonderful supportive site !

well here I am at 69 days.never knew it smelled so strong.guys will come near or open a can and I think "did I smell like that ?".I was walking through a parking lot and all of a sudden just smelled it very strong.looked over the bed of a truck and there had to be at least 20-30 spit bottles.

Yep, we all smelled like that. I can spot a packed lip 50 feet away. Still don't even like being near, much less inside, my brother-in-law's truck. Damn wintergreen funk is overwhelming.

That's why I question the guys that say they were true ninjas. I just don't understand how it could work.

im the same with spotting the packed lip.

[Radman]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.
huge test this past Saturday and I passed with greatness,very proud.thanks to this wonderful supportive site !

well here I am at 69 days.never knew it smelled so strong.guys will come near or open a can and I think "did I smell like that ?".I was walking through a parking lot and all of a sudden just smelled it very strong.looked over the bed of a truck and there had to be at least 20-30 spit bottles.

Yep, we all smelled like that. I can spot a packed lip 50 feet away. Still don't even like being near, much less inside, my brother-in-law's truck. Damn wintergreen funk is overwhelming.

That's why I question the guys that say they were true ninjas. I just don't understand how it could work.

[englishbulldog]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.
huge test this past Saturday and I passed with greatness,very proud.thanks to this wonderful supportive site !

well here I am at 69 days.never knew it smelled so strong.guys will come near or open a can and I think "did I smell like that ?".I was walking through a parking lot and all of a sudden just smelled it very strong.looked over the bed of a truck and there had to be at least 20-30 spit bottles.

[englishbulldog]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.
huge test this past Saturday and I passed with greatness,very proud.thanks to this wonderful supportive site !

[CaliforniaSlim]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

That's it, seriously? You have a whole team of serious badass quitters telling you what you need to examine in yourself, and that's all you have?

Come on, buddy, you know that KTC has the tools you need. It is up to you to take them out of the shed and get to building your quit.

[englishbulldog]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

day 22 and doing pretty good.altoids and smokey mountain helps a lot. about a week ago I wasent someone you would want to be around but that's a lot better.i will say that the smokey mountain chew is a lot more messy than real chew seems to me.

[Greg5280]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

:angry:

Let's see some response! You clearly did not have a plan the last time and if you do not have a plan this time you could get similar results.

Answer the questions and look at what you did wrong, make changes, get serious!!

[Scowick65]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

english no substance = sco no happy. 'finger point'

[Radman]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

Did you post those answers somewhere else? Quit group maybe? If so, copy them over here for posterity..... and so your addict brain can find them later as a reminder of what NOT to do.

Looking back through the support in your intro here, there are at least 3 folks asking you for lists or responses. I don't see anything of substance in reply from you. I'm not asking to cause friction or be dramatic. I'm asking because making those lists (or failing to come up with anything) will help you realize a lot of things about your quit.

[englishbulldog]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

thanks for everything guys.ill make it this time.its actually not to bad except at work.the smokey mountain stuff helps a lot with that.

[Evil_Won]

English Bulldog,

I merged your two intros. Now, more importantly, answer the 3 questions related to your cave. Make them better and more honest that the last time you caved.

1. What happened?

2. Why did it happen?

3. What will you do different this time (and different from your last cave)?

[Dougie]

......I dipped for around 25yrs.enjoyed the hell out of it and will miss it.

Man, you really have to fix your way of thinking. Stop romanticizing nicotine and tobacco. I used to think that way, but I now look back on it and there's honestly not one thing that I actually enjoyed. Seriously..... nothing. That's just your addiction fooling you by hijacking your reward systems. If you keep fond memories, you are leaving the door open. You'll at some point accept "just one" to relive those so-called wonderful times. My best advice is to spend some time seeing addiction for what it is..... a pack of lies. If you need a little help, tell us exactly what it was that you think you enjoyed about nicotine addiction.

The constant worry over not running out of dip?
The disgusting spit bottles (unless gutting it).
The burning throat?
Having to avoid kissing family members due to a mouth full of death?
The constant bad breath?
Wasting increasing amounts money you could be using for your family?
I could go on.....

I'm not trying to be a prick here, but this attitude shift strengthened my quit early on. Read my HOF speech. Emotion helps a quitter........ but only if focused correctly. You and I are about the same place in life. I have 3 young kids, a wife, and I'm almost 39. I chewed and dipped for about 20 years.

You can do this. It gets much better.
Let me know if I can help you any way.

Listen to radmen, he speaks the truth. All the POISON ever did for you was take. Stole your freedom while taking your dignity. Costed you 1000,S depending on how long you were An idiot like me.

To be fair let me make a list of things it did for you.



I'm sorry, i got nothing!!!
Start getting your mind right or you won't make it a week...

These are some bad ass quitters in here- listen and learn. Read everything in the welcome center. Read other peoples introductions- You will see that we are all basically the same people with the same problems, learn the path of QUIT.