Reversing the effects

[Bigdave]

Day 2 sucks...but you will make it. Just be strong. Stay busy and when you get sleepy tonight--go to bed don't force yourself to stay up your normal hours. I know for me I was a night owl because I just enjoyed staying up and had a dip in while I did it. Now I actually feel ok in the mornings because I'm getting more sleep.

Quit with you

[bis-cut]

It's day 2, and this couldn't suck any more at the moment. I'm sitting at work with absolutely zero foucs, the nic bitch just keeps running through my mind, and the funny part is as much as I want to cave right now. I posted roll this morning and will whole heartedly stick to it. I have no idea why, i don't know any of you for shit as yesterday was my first post (that I basically was torn a new one for because i worded it poorly), maybe its just because my story isn't all that far off from a lot of those that I have read.

I never did post my intro yesterday, so here goes. When I think back on it I really have no idea why the fuck I even started. I must have thought it was cool at the time.

I was 15 my buddy on the lax team had stolen a can of cope from the grocery store. He took it home, put in a dip while taking a shit, and proceeded to puke his guts out.

And yet having never done it before and hearing his story. I still took the can off him.

I never did like cope, was more of a skoal man throughout highschool, then went off to college and money for booze was more important so cut back on the expensive shit down to the red seal, timberwolf, and rooster.

Then before I knew it the only thing I was using on a daily basis was wintergreen griz (what i have deemed the absolute scum of the dip world) I mean I might as well have just been sticking straight fiberglass in my mouth.

I've tried to quit numerous times throughout the years, the longest i ever made it was 13 days before a cave. I've read, and read, and read some more and will continue to do so. I have been back and forth on KTC since 2006 (however the last time I was here the site looked nothing like it does today)

I know i'm just rambling at this point, but i oddly feel better from just bitching it all out.

Day by day I plan to honor my roll call. and apprecaite the support i have received so far.



'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head'

Welcome to the quit, hang in there IT will get better. Stay focused and quit one day at a time and you will make it

[JJMARSHALL117]

It's day 2, and this couldn't suck any more at the moment. I'm sitting at work with absolutely zero foucs, the nic bitch just keeps running through my mind, and the funny part is as much as I want to cave right now. I posted roll this morning and will whole heartedly stick to it. I have no idea why, i don't know any of you for shit as yesterday was my first post (that I basically was torn a new one for because i worded it poorly), maybe its just because my story isn't all that far off from a lot of those that I have read.

I never did post my intro yesterday, so here goes. When I think back on it I really have no idea why the fuck I even started. I must have thought it was cool at the time.

I was 15 my buddy on the lax team had stolen a can of cope from the grocery store. He took it home, put in a dip while taking a shit, and proceeded to puke his guts out.

And yet having never done it before and hearing his story. I still took the can off him.

I never did like cope, was more of a skoal man throughout highschool, then went off to college and money for booze was more important so cut back on the expensive shit down to the red seal, timberwolf, and rooster.

Then before I knew it the only thing I was using on a daily basis was wintergreen griz (what i have deemed the absolute scum of the dip world) I mean I might as well have just been sticking straight fiberglass in my mouth.

I've tried to quit numerous times throughout the years, the longest i ever made it was 13 days before a cave. I've read, and read, and read some more and will continue to do so. I have been back and forth on KTC since 2006 (however the last time I was here the site looked nothing like it does today)

I know i'm just rambling at this point, but i oddly feel better from just bitching it all out.

Day by day I plan to honor my roll call. and apprecaite the support i have received so far.



'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head' 'na na' 'bang head'

[Mthomas3824]

Jim,
Just noticed you registered today.  You have to be thick skinned here.  If you're quit you have friends here.  If your not, you will get your ass handed to you. 

Sometimes you may feel under attack.  Take all things in stride.  This is a place where we come to nic rage.  Better to take it out on you and me than our loved ones. 

So your question was innocent but an opportunity for us to let off steam.  You will appreciate it when you nic rage. 

Meaning I know you are here to quit.  Have you posted your promise and are you quit right now?

Thanks MT. I have not posted my promise yet but I will. And yes I am quit

Good on you, if your quit, post asap. That way when the cravings come, you have your sword and shield to fight the battle.

Make the promise now and keep your word today. POST ROLL.

[JJMARSHALL117]

Jim,
Just noticed you registered today. You have to be thick skinned here. If you're quit you have friends here. If your not, you will get your ass handed to you.

Sometimes you may feel under attack. Take all things in stride. This is a place where we come to nic rage. Better to take it out on you and me than our loved ones.

So your question was innocent but an opportunity for us to let off steam. You will appreciate it when you nic rage.

Meaning I know you are here to quit. Have you posted your promise and are you quit right now?

Thanks MT. I have not posted my promise yet but I will. And yes I am quit

[mikegooch]

Here..This is how you reverse the effects... I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside  outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off  THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. you head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled  scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it)  my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. Never has a gum graft ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch

[Mthomas3824]

When brushing, brush your gums, tongue, and roof of mouth.  Your time brushing should be a minimum of your favorite song.  Hum the song while you brush.

Never heard that one, M.

I'll be humming T H I S O N E tonight before bed.

I just got rick rolled???? 'dance' never gona give you up! Never gona let your go.

[G]

When brushing, brush your gums, tongue, and roof of mouth.  Your time brushing should be a minimum of your favorite song.  Hum the song while you brush.

Never heard that one, M.

I'll be humming T H I S O N E tonight before bed.

[Mthomas3824]

Jim,
Just noticed you registered today. You have to be thick skinned here. If you're quit you have friends here. If your not, you will get your ass handed to you.

Sometimes you may feel under attack. Take all things in stride. This is a place where we come to nic rage. Better to take it out on you and me than our loved ones.

So your question was innocent but an opportunity for us to let off steam. You will appreciate it when you nic rage.

Meaning I know you are here to quit. Have you posted your promise and are you quit right now?

[LDIDDY]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)

You could skip the whole quit-thing and have your dentist remove all your teeth and replace them with implants.

You're an addict. I'll give you one guess as to what the best solution is....

I can't even believe this question was even asked....QUIT DIPPING!!!! Either that or wear dentures for the rest of your life.

You all are taking my question the wrong way. I'm not looking for something to skate around quitting. I was just wondering if there's anything else I could be doing along with quitting

Get a good restorative dentist and periodontist. Depending on how bad the gum loss is, they may can help......

Or, you can take the route I had to. Pull what's left, and do implants. Should only cost $50 to $70K.

[Mthomas3824]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)

You could skip the whole quit-thing and have your dentist remove all your teeth and replace them with implants.

You're an addict. I'll give you one guess as to what the best solution is....

'crackup'

yeah, you could keep it out of your mouth and shove it up your ass but then you would have your proctologist bitching too.

Well shit. The only solution is to quit doing the things that cause the problem in the first place.

All kidding aside, I hope you are asking for things to do in addition....Brush and floss after meals. Water pics and motorize tooth brushes are great. Regular dental check ups every 6 months. Lay of sugar and soda with high fructose corn syryp.

When brushing, brush your gums, tongue, and roof of mouth. Your time brushing should be a minimum of your favorite song. Hum the song while you brush.

[JJMARSHALL117]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)

You could skip the whole quit-thing and have your dentist remove all your teeth and replace them with implants.

You're an addict. I'll give you one guess as to what the best solution is....

I can't even believe this question was even asked....QUIT DIPPING!!!! Either that or wear dentures for the rest of your life.

You all are taking my question the wrong way. I'm not looking for something to skate around quitting. I was just wondering if there's anything else I could be doing along with quitting

[kstampfly]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)

You could skip the whole quit-thing and have your dentist remove all your teeth and replace them with implants.

You're an addict. I'll give you one guess as to what the best solution is....

I can't even believe this question was even asked....QUIT DIPPING!!!! Either that or wear dentures for the rest of your life.

[Leahy16]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)

You could skip the whole quit-thing and have your dentist remove all your teeth and replace them with implants.

You're an addict. I'll give you one guess as to what the best solution is....

[JJMARSHALL117]

Just curious anyone been told anything to do by their doctor/dentist to reverse/stop the effects of wear on your teeth and gums (other then getting off the stuff for good of course)