Starting the QUIT for my

[HamminCheeseinacan]

Thumblewort-Why should it matter. You offer yourself as a support group for people like you and myself that are trying to quit. Why chastize someone for doing what so many other people have done. You joined and then a month later quit. whats your deal. Pleases explain.

[HamminCheeseinacan]

Stopped then caved. Nuff said

[Thumblewort]

Yeah, here it is.

[Thumblewort]

Wait, you said you quit on the 16th, let me dig that up. We only get one intro.


EDIT, so you stopped on the 16th and caved? Please explain.

[HamminCheeseinacan]

So, I'm about 4 hours now into my first quit day. Its been an interesting morning thats for sure. For the past maybe 2-3 years I've woken up in the morning, done my routine, and tossed a lipper in on my way to work. First day without it, and I actually enjoyed my car ride to work this morning. I even got to enjoy a morning rock session and sang along the entire way to work. Something that wasnt possible before with a dip in. As usual work is alway stressful for me, but this morning seems to be going better than most. I'm a little more tired than usual, but that doesnt really bother me. I know that is going to be a long day and Im fully prepaired to work through this. Im just not looking forward to the shit that I'll have to put up with during the quit. 'flush'

[canless2014]

First hardest thing is taking the plunge and quitting.

Second one is keeping your word and posting Day 2. And Day 3. And Day 4. Don't see that "Day 2" on roll Ham, what gives?

[Mogul]

Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.

Yes you are better than that crap. And your life is worth an immeasurable amount to the people who love you and count on you. Keep that killer attitude about nicotine, just make the final decision that you are done with it, and never look back. I'm quit today and so are you. Awesome decision.

Mogul

[Thumblewort]

Post roll, you should be on Day 2. Make a promise and dive into the system.....it only saves lives ya know.

[Southpaw32]

Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.

You're damn right your are! Now go post in December and post every day! Research the site get your knowledge base built. Get phone numbers from your group and from other groups too. Check your pm for mine.

[HamminCheeseinacan]

Alright the quit has started. Got home from work and tossed all cans n stoons. I appreciate the "tough love". I'm better than this shite and it's time to start acting like it.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:

1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.

2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.

ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.

Well, being the dick that I am. I think Hambone needs to go check his underwear to make sure he still has two balls. Then when he is ready to realize that United States Tobacco has a big cock up his ass and no lube maybe he will use those said balls to come on here and quit. Up until that point I think we are done here.

Mogul

Grab your sack Ham! Don't be a puss.

[Mogul]

PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:

1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.

2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.

ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.

Well, being the dick that I am. I think Hambone needs to go check his underwear to make sure he still has two balls. Then when he is ready to realize that United States Tobacco has a big cock up his ass and no lube maybe he will use those said balls to come on here and quit. Up until that point I think we are done here.

Mogul

[canless2014]

PS — if it sounds like I'm being harsh it's only because I thought I could do the same thing for a while. Many of us did. Thought we were stronger and could easily wean themselves off. The problem with the weaning strategy is as follows:

1. (I'm really liking numbered bulletpoints today) Ask yourself when do you stop weaning and quit? So let's say you start off at a can per day. And then you spread that out over two days. And then again. Now you're at one can every four days. Awesome! Well let's split that in half. One can every eight days? Nice. Well, where do you stop? If you keep "weaning" yourself down you'll never have that realization that "one more" is NOT okay. You'll always have that nagging urge that says, "you haven't dipped in ages. you weaned yourself off ... you're not even addicted anymore." And that's a serious problem.

2. Say you're having just one dip per day. Well that's pretty great. EXCEPT, it means you're going through the first 24 hours of withdrawal EVERY DAY. Why the hell would you want to do that to yourself? Life will be awful. You'll be in a constant haze for weeks. And your mind will convince you that you couldn't handle this quit and that you need to go back to dipping.

ADMINS / VETS: Does anyone know of a good link that talks about the, uhh, "special butterfly" effect? I've read some good stuff but can't remember. Think this might apply here.

[canless2014]

Ham,

Nolaq is right. If you wait until you're comfortable, it'll never happen. The things you have to know straight off the bat:

1. It will be hell. You never hear a drug addict say "Wow, that was a breeze!". What you hopefully hear them say is "Thank God I did it. It was the toughest thing I ever did, but I saved my life." Same goes for nicotine, because it's a drug and we're addicted to it.

2. You're right about the oral fixation. Different things work for different people. I chewed jerky and am now transitioning to coffee grinds. After I hit 100 days I'm hoping to keep some fake around just for emergencies. But others never touch it.

The moral of the story: by the time your birthday rolls around, now you'll have one day fewer quit. And if you don't do it today, it'll be the same story tomorrow. And when your birthday gets here you'll still be a dippin mofo! And then, well hell now you don't have that deadline anymore so you can just do it whenever, right?

WRONG. We're here for support man, but you gotta take that first step. Let us know when you're ready.

[30isEnuff]

I thank you all for your words of wisdom. I see the fact that starting the quit on my bday would be a bad idea. And as of now I am struggling with the addict side. The reasoning and bargining and all that jazz. I intend to go to Wally World and see if they do infact carry the tobacco less chew. I dont know if picking up a can of that would be such a good idea though. It takes care of the oral fixation but I feel like it may also just push me right back down that damn hole. As for starting so abrubtly, its not something I'm comfortable with. I would like it to be possible that I would wein myself slowly to that date and then just cut if off completly but I also know that the addict in me will reason and bargin again. tobacco is a hell of a drug.

Of course you're uncomfortable with Quitting. It's uncomfortable. You're an addict.

But I'm nothing special. If I can do this, so can you.

Someone once said, "The Possible...is boring."

Do or Do Not, there is no Try.

It's your decision ODAAT.

You're not here by accident.