Intro

[Paul1231]

Honestly, this ^^^^ is maybe the single most important post in my quit.

[Paul1231]

Paul. I originally posted this in vbe931's intro. He reached HOF and I wanted to read it again so I put it in your intro. I hope that is ok.


Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.

I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.

How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?

Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.

That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.

Mogul

Mogul, i actually read this on VBE's intro yesterday. I cant tell you how much this post strengthened my quit. I am glad you posted it in here. I will surely be referreing back to it from time to time. This is powerful stuff right here. If you dont mind I might post this in my group at some point

[Mogul]

Paul. I originally posted this in vbe931's intro. He reached HOF and I wanted to read it again so I put it in your intro. I hope that is ok.


Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.

I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.

How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?

Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.

That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.

Mogul

[Thumblewort]

Thanks again for all the support here fellas...

Day 17 and feeling fucking great. A lot of the rage and fog are gone and I am starting to feel pretty normal...and FREE. However, I promise to myself and all of you that I WILL NOT get complacent in my quit just because I am feeling more myself. I have read many posts, articles, etc and received plenty of advice that people set themselves up for a fail when they feel better and get a little cocky/complacent.
Not here... 'Finger' fuck you nic bitch

QLF EDD

Sounds like a quitter to me! There will be some rough days ahead Paul, but the good days will quickly outnumber the bad days! Proud to be quit with you today.

[Paul1231]

Thanks again for all the support here fellas...

Day 17 and feeling fucking great. A lot of the rage and fog are gone and I am starting to feel pretty normal...and FREE. However, I promise to myself and all of you that I WILL NOT get complacent in my quit just because I am feeling more myself. I have read many posts, articles, etc and received plenty of advice that people set themselves up for a fail when they feel better and get a little cocky/complacent.
Not here... 'Finger' fuck you nic bitch

QLF EDD

[Mogul]

Paul, you help me quit brother. Keep adding the plus ones.

There is no reason to quit quitting.

Mogul

[Paul1231]

Paul,

Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.

Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.

Like a Sultan!

just rock it!

Thanks guys. Finally starting to feel pretty damn good.

[Scowick65]

Paul,

Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.

Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.

Like a Sultan!

just rock it!

[CavMan83]

Paul,

Just a note of encouragement on day 15....I like the days that end in 0's and 5's....gives you a sense of progress. Congrats and celebrate the small victories....they add up into BIG small victories.

Proud to quit with you brother...E.D.D.

Like a Sultan!

[Paul1231]

12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?

And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there

Dude, 12 days is badass. Continue to fucking rock it.

Your body is going through a lot of changes. You were ruining your mouth every day by cutting up your lip and sucking on that poison. It is healing now, and it's a process. The PH in your mouth is changing, and that is causing a ton of things to correct. Sores may have already formed and gone away, and your tongue may start to return to its normal color again. All this is happening right above your throat. The bad part is that it sucks. The good news is that it is temporary and normal. Drink tons of water still, and just do your best to stay quit today. Anything less than quit is unacceptable.

Many of us (myself included) have found that we "self medicated" with the stuff. I was a raging mess that went from anger to tears to laid back in the blink of an eye. This is something that you should deal with. No longer are you regulating chemicals in your body via poisonous drugs. No. You're going to need an outlet. I took up running (all 270 pounds of me). I ran the shit out of the roads here, had some veins in my leg explode, surgery, and ended up running a marathon last year. That was my outlet.

As for the drama...fuck it. You can control one thing and one thing alone in this world: Your actions. The people leaving choose to leave. I can't turn my back on an organization that gave me 3 years of freedom today. This site is a treasure trove of knowledge with thousands of more people posting regularly still. Do I miss them? Yup. But I can't stop them. Ultimately, my enemy is nicotine.

Thanks man. And a huge congrats to you on hitting the three year mark! Now that is fucken badass

[wastepanel]

12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?

And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there

Dude, 12 days is badass. Continue to fucking rock it.

Your body is going through a lot of changes. You were ruining your mouth every day by cutting up your lip and sucking on that poison. It is healing now, and it's a process. The PH in your mouth is changing, and that is causing a ton of things to correct. Sores may have already formed and gone away, and your tongue may start to return to its normal color again. All this is happening right above your throat. The bad part is that it sucks. The good news is that it is temporary and normal. Drink tons of water still, and just do your best to stay quit today. Anything less than quit is unacceptable.

Many of us (myself included) have found that we "self medicated" with the stuff. I was a raging mess that went from anger to tears to laid back in the blink of an eye. This is something that you should deal with. No longer are you regulating chemicals in your body via poisonous drugs. No. You're going to need an outlet. I took up running (all 270 pounds of me). I ran the shit out of the roads here, had some veins in my leg explode, surgery, and ended up running a marathon last year. That was my outlet.

As for the drama...fuck it. You can control one thing and one thing alone in this world: Your actions. The people leaving choose to leave. I can't turn my back on an organization that gave me 3 years of freedom today. This site is a treasure trove of knowledge with thousands of more people posting regularly still. Do I miss them? Yup. But I can't stop them. Ultimately, my enemy is nicotine.

[cbird65]

12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?

And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there

guzzle water until you can't walk past a john w/o pissing and add a 'sweat workout' program to rid your body of toxins.

F the drama and fill the 'holes' in your support tree -

pm me if you want mine but you will have to accept the daily post challenge in the dreaded Glass House of April 12

[Paul1231]

12 days in and still hate the world most of the time. I wouldnt say Im really missing the dip or even really have many craves. As long as I dont drink too much the craves havent been that bad. The fucking irritability is at an all time high still. I become so enraged at such stupid shit that i intentionally dont leave the house unless i absolutely have to because i dont want to beat the hell out of someone. On top of that im still worried about the shit from my last post and having a fucking sore throat all the time. When will this shit get better?

And while im bitching about stuff....i dont know anything about the drama going on in here and honestly i dont give a fuck, but what i do know is that almost my entire Vet support system with exception of wastepanel (and some other bad asses in chat) has been run out of here. Dont want to get involved in the politics but WTF? Lucky for me the Sultans are a badass group and we have a pretty tight brotherhood in there

[Paul1231]

Need some advice...im a little freaked out about something im experiencing and wondering if anyone has dealt with this themselves. First let me say i am planning on a visit to the dentist in a month or so once things kind of return to normal in my mouth. The things im wondering about though are as follows
1) ive been using smokey mountain snuff from time to time to help with cravings when they come up and after taking it out my lip has that wrinkled leathery look to it just as you would get with a real dip from time to time. Is this normal? Anyone elsr had this?
2). My gums were receded pretty significantly before i quit and have grown back little by little to almost normal at times but then when i use the sms it recedes them again just like real dip would. Same questions...is it normal? Anyone been through this?
Maybe i am a little patanoid and looking in my mouth a bit too much but none the less im a little freaked out, nothing major. Just wamt to throw it out there and get some feedback.

Quit is strong. Going awesome thanks you guys and your support. QLF EDD

[Paul1231]

Paul, you are doing it right. Rage and vent right here at KTC. go to chat if you can and vent there too. Running, weight lifting any exercise is awesome to help the quit. Feel positive about yourself, your image, and this day shall too pass. Or do like me and stand naked in the room and flip off, bounce my balls, bend over and moon, and any other gesture you wish at the tobacco industry. Fuck em.

hahaha thanks again Mogul...You help my quit every day bro