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Offline TheMissingPeace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2011, 10:13:00 PM »
jimmy-Sorry about that! No big deal but I'm kind of embarrassed because I was urging people to post Roll Call not realizing that they had but had gotten bumped. Lots of bumping going on. I can't keep up with it! I'm still not sleeping. I keep waking up thinking I have to go to work and only 10, 15, 30 minutes have passed since the last time I woke up. Everybody and everything really got on my nerves today. I'm going to have to keep myself in check. It's not anybody else's fault that I am a nic addict. Peace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2011, 05:32:00 PM »
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jimmy127-go post Roll Call today with the rest of our July 2011 Brothers. We are Quit together. Peace
I did man, I posted to the list at about 430 in the morning. Someone cut my, and about 5 other guys, names off the list! Scroll up to bout 430 or something on Sunday mornin' if ya need to check it out!
Um, I think you just cut me from that list dude... go look at your roll call post :? I'm gone, jimmy has taken my place... *move over little dog, the big old dog is movin' in...*
Dude, no I didn't cut ya, I bumped ya. I posted at 129 and you posted at 128, which was like 428 am my time. What the crap were we posting for at 430 on a Monday Mornin?

I rekkin I'll try to be a lil more careful when it comes to bumps, its only my 3rd roll call :P

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Re: Quit
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 05:20:00 PM »
Andrew, you look like a Jarhead. Tell me you're a Jarhead. I was in from 97 to 05. Its funny, my wife is a Navy nurse and she's about to deploy for 6 to Kuwait. Mind games tell me I should have waited for her to come back, since her being gone will be so stressful.

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Re: Quit
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 04:12:00 AM »
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Teaka, great list! I especially like 36.Don't have to find excuse to go to bathroom to spit out chew when wife becomes "amorous" while watching TV.

I don't know how many times my wife has piled in my lap only to have me dump her off to get up and go do something stupid because I had a dip hidden in my face. It makes me wonder how damaged our relationship may have become from it. There is no doubt it hindered and fractured intimacy and probably gave her some kind of complex. She gets in my lap and wants to kiss and I run away.

As I've said here, I had a dip in all the time, except when I slept. I swallowed my spit, kept the dip deep in the pocket along the molars, I'm telling you I had it in all the time and nobody knew. Wife thought I only dip in my computer room, not so- all the time. I still haven't actually confessed to her that I had a dip in all the time. God help me I could have even had one in when I married her, though I don't remember it. I know I had one in just before.

Missing Peace, You can do it! We've got the rest of our lives ahead of us- free from bondage! Sleep has been the worst part for me, so far. Its like, I lay there and my mind runs 90 miles an hour and- its cool though. I have no triggers when it comes to sleep. I can lay in bed all day and not face a single crave. Weird, huh?

I think its why folks talk about going running. Shoot, a dip in my face made any frikkin physical activity about 10 times harder. Exercise with dip in was just not an option. So folks exercise, because there aren't any triggers for most of us. After exercise, for me, man I have a huge trigger, I plop down in the computer chair and put in that dip while I cool down and enter all my data from my run or ride in my logbook. I think, at this point, I'll be able to brush that trigger off pretty easy. I know what to expect, I've beaten back the crave so many times now that its second nature. I can't let down that guard though, I have to be wary of that fake sense of "loss."

In the mean time, get you some seeds- some fireballs, whatever you can, and try some wild flavors. I got a new pack of seeds today that are flavored with salty bacon grease (in effect). I think they do help, they are something to do, something to think about, something to distract from the dirty whore. Day 2 was my hardest day- don't let the mind games get you, there is nothing worth going back for- plow ahead!
I think you're spot on with the way nicotine damages relationships. When I get back to the states I have a lot of mending to do, and honestly I'm looking forward to it. I'm a new man without nicotine, and she's going to love me even more that I'm not sharing half of my affection with a chemical addiction.
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Re: Quit
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 03:55:00 AM »
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jimmy127-go post Roll Call today with the rest of our July 2011 Brothers. We are Quit together. Peace
I did man, I posted to the list at about 430 in the morning. Someone cut my, and about 5 other guys, names off the list! Scroll up to bout 430 or something on Sunday mornin' if ya need to check it out!
Um, I think you just cut me from that list dude... go look at your roll call post :? I'm gone, jimmy has taken my place... *move over little dog, the big old dog is movin' in...*
Last can I opened was a can of whoop ass.

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Re: Quit
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 03:24:00 AM »
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jimmy127-go post Roll Call today with the rest of our July 2011 Brothers. We are Quit together. Peace
I did man, I posted to the list at about 430 in the morning. Someone cut my, and about 5 other guys, names off the list! Scroll up to bout 430 or something on Sunday mornin' if ya need to check it out!

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Re: Quit
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 10:24:00 PM »
Jimmy-That was one of my biggest triggers as well. After a run and a shower I would put a dip in my mouth and sit down at the computer while I cooled down. I would read through the Strat-Talk and TDPRI (telecaster) forums and enjoy a dip. Now I am pretty much living on this site because right now that is what I have to do to protect my Quit. Please let me know if there is anything I can do. Peace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 06:58:00 PM »
jimmy127-go post Roll Call today with the rest of our July 2011 Brothers. We are Quit together. Peace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 10:59:00 AM »
good job jimmy. you hit the nail on the head. you suffer from nicotene withdrawal within minutes from your last nicotene use. the only purpose dipping serves is to perpetuate the stupid cycle. what some perceive as calming effects....are really just the effects of feeding your addiction and stopping withdrawal. Nicotene serves no useful purpose....its just a vicious cycle.



If you haven't read this, please do so. I read it often and it helps remind me just how stupid I was.

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp

teaka....thanks for posting this link. i hadn't seen this before as i surfed around the site. sat her laughing as i saw myself in so many of these....the dumb ass that i was. still sitting here chuckling.

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Re: Quit
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 02:59:00 AM »
Teaka, great list! I especially like 36.Don't have to find excuse to go to bathroom to spit out chew when wife becomes "amorous" while watching TV.

I don't know how many times my wife has piled in my lap only to have me dump her off to get up and go do something stupid because I had a dip hidden in my face. It makes me wonder how damaged our relationship may have become from it. There is no doubt it hindered and fractured intimacy and probably gave her some kind of complex. She gets in my lap and wants to kiss and I run away.

As I've said here, I had a dip in all the time, except when I slept. I swallowed my spit, kept the dip deep in the pocket along the molars, I'm telling you I had it in all the time and nobody knew. Wife thought I only dip in my computer room, not so- all the time. I still haven't actually confessed to her that I had a dip in all the time. God help me I could have even had one in when I married her, though I don't remember it. I know I had one in just before.

Missing Peace, You can do it! We've got the rest of our lives ahead of us- free from bondage! Sleep has been the worst part for me, so far. Its like, I lay there and my mind runs 90 miles an hour and- its cool though. I have no triggers when it comes to sleep. I can lay in bed all day and not face a single crave. Weird, huh?

I think its why folks talk about going running. Shoot, a dip in my face made any frikkin physical activity about 10 times harder. Exercise with dip in was just not an option. So folks exercise, because there aren't any triggers for most of us. After exercise, for me, man I have a huge trigger, I plop down in the computer chair and put in that dip while I cool down and enter all my data from my run or ride in my logbook. I think, at this point, I'll be able to brush that trigger off pretty easy. I know what to expect, I've beaten back the crave so many times now that its second nature. I can't let down that guard though, I have to be wary of that fake sense of "loss."

In the mean time, get you some seeds- some fireballs, whatever you can, and try some wild flavors. I got a new pack of seeds today that are flavored with salty bacon grease (in effect). I think they do help, they are something to do, something to think about, something to distract from the dirty whore. Day 2 was my hardest day- don't let the mind games get you, there is nothing worth going back for- plow ahead!

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2011, 10:32:00 PM »
jimmy-that was simply awesome. I am never able to say things with such eloquence but I am trying to post a lot anyway. I guess that's just me trying to work my quit. I don't know why but I will really be paying attention to your quit because for some reason it really means something to me. I am honored to be Quit with you and to be in your July 2011 Quit group. I have already come across some great Quitters in our group. I know I keep saying this but I dipped for 30 years and this is my first dip free weekend in 3 decades. I am on Day 2 and I have definitely hit some very rough spots today. I did't sleep well at all last night and I have a pretty heavy fog. But, I posted Roll Call early this morning so today I am Quit. Caving is not an option. It just isn't. Peace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2011, 10:12:00 PM »
good job jimmy. you hit the nail on the head. you suffer from nicotene withdrawal within minutes from your last nicotene use. the only purpose dipping serves is to perpetuate the stupid cycle. what some perceive as calming effects....are really just the effects of feeding your addiction and stopping withdrawal. Nicotene serves no useful purpose....its just a vicious cycle.



If you haven't read this, please do so. I read it often and it helps remind me just how stupid I was.

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/100benefits.asp
a strange game. the only winning move is not to play

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Re: Quit
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2011, 08:06:00 PM »
Hey, Guys. Today was wild. I hung out with my buddy, who dips, and we went to the daggum firing range. I was expecting all kinds of insanity, but oddly, today was maybe the easiest day I've had so far. We went to the gas station, I got seeds and a drink and he got 2 cans of skoal. I don't know why or how, but I think seeing him have to get those cans to enjoy his afternoon actually made me stronger somehow in my quit. He isn't interested in quitting, and is worried my wife will tell his wife and then his wife will give him hassle about it.

One thing I noticed about myself, I'm going to bed having forgotten to brush my teeth. Its like, my mouth feels so much cleaner that I don't even think about brushing my teeth.

I'm by no means an expert at this, but from my experience this far, don't dwell on dip. I hit a trigger, I think about how nice a dip would be, then I get pissed and I think about something else. I don't look at my relationship with dip as my having to deal with the loss of a loved aspect of my life- almost like losing a family member, rather I dumped a dirty whore who may have made me feel good but she abused my dog and told lies about me at church, and spent all my money on losing lottery tickets. I'm by far better off without her, and my dog is too. If I hit that trigger and start thinking about dip and "romanticizing" it- meaning only thinking of the good thing rather than all of the bad things then heck yeah its gonna make me want dip more, and the mind games are gonna hit even harder and my wall of determination may start to crack. Look at that can of dip for what it is, a can of crap that will make your mouth fall off. Get mad at it, get hateful with it, thrive on defeating it.

It seems like I'm only afraid of life without it because--- quitting leaves a hole. And its kind of crazy, since when I started dip there wasn't a hole to fill. Dipping made a hole in me. Say what? yeah, dipping made a hole in me, added this whole new aspect to my life, a dependancy that did not exist before. Now, 6 days in quit, and I'm looking at this hole, wondering what will fill it, how can I live with this empty hole. I guess in a way, for now, the seeds and fireballs may throw a tarp over the hole? Maybe. Call me crazy but it feels like the hole has drawn itself smaller, noticiably smaller since last night.

Is that what the quit is about? Hold on, hold on, breakthrough! Hold on, hold on, hold on, breakthrough! One quit moment to the next, letting that hole dip wore in our soul fill and close a little tighter. I'm guessing, from what the old timers say, we screwed ourselves, because the hole will never completely shut- we'll always have temptation, always have to work. But the sense of loss, loss we made for ourselves, will fade to a pinpoint- something akin to, from time to time, thinking we catch a glimpse of that long lost lover from the corner of our eye. We can choose to try to go find her, and quite possibly doom ourself, or say "screw her!" spit in the dirt, and keep on walking.

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Re: Quit
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »
Dash-Been running for years. A good run always makes me feel better mentally and damn do I need that right now.

Jimmy-Saw that you Posted Roll Call. Awesome-you're helping me do this because you're just a few days ahead of me and I'm trying to catch up! Peace

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Re: Quit
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2011, 03:21:00 PM »
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dashcapt-I'm going to run 2-3 miles today and drink a ton of water. Feelin' weird all day, hard to desribe? But I posted Roll Call so Today I am Quit. Peace
I know the feeling... This is the first day since I decided to kick the nic bitch that I have felt remotely able to focus. Still feelin' a little "out of body-ish."

Enjoy the run, Peace. You'll probably find you will have a ton of energy to burn!
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